Essential The Official MMA Thread

[Roman Brady]

Vitor's run to the MW title shot was not solely because he was on TRT. a large part of run, especially his three TKO's, is due to excellent technique.

non of us are doctors breh we just know whats reported and testosterone is no placebo. When he put that shyt in his body suddenly he cud train longer, harder e.t.c with that comes confidence and the psychological effects take shape from there. We dont know what he is going to look like off it cuz hes been on some form of steroid dating back to pride

He earned his shot and whether it's going to be a one sided fight or not isn't the problem. Vitor earned his shot at the belt and just because he will draw more viewers isn't a reason to discredit him.

whether he earned it or not is beside the point the point is the loudest voices discrediting his wins as because he was juicing are the same cats saying this fight should happen just not in brazil, ole have your cake and eat it too type hyprocricy in it purest form right there

 

[Roman Brady]

I don't speak for him. I'm talking about myself. How is a fighter on a 3 fight win streak where he impressively finished his opponents and has only lost twice since 2006(to the top p4p fighters at the time) going for the title ridiculous matchmaking?

stated it already, hes villified as some mma barry bonds but his wins are a o k just so he can serve as a jobber for the divisions unpopular champion

I don't discount anything. TRT or not he has looked impressive.

or not? Hes been on shyt ever since he returned

The majority of fighters who were on TRT alongside him(Mir, Hendo, Sonnen) for the most part has looked like shyt so thats irrelevant.

lets wait and see what he looks like against weidman and kill this i mean we are already seeing a distinct change in his appearance. Its not a stretch to assume physically he wont be the same but we shall see.

But lets not back away from your stupid comparison of how this is like Kimbo vs Fedor. Please explain that.

what did i tell u about getting easily confused

 

[The G.O.D II]

stated it already, hes villified as some mma barry bonds but his wins are a o k just so he can serve as a jobber for the divisions unpopular champion

or not? Hes been on shyt ever since he returned

lets wait and see what he looks like against weidman and kill this i mean we are already seeing a distinct change in his appearance. Its not a stretch to assume physically he wont be the same but we shall see. what did i tell u about getting easily confused

Oh god just stop it. You are embarrassing yourself with each post. You never know when to fall back.

 

[Roman Brady]

Oh god just stop it. You are embarrassing yourself with each post. You never know when to fall back.

how does any of this further the dialogue? If that is truly your opinion why reply at all? You come off like a female that will just say shyt to get in the last word

 

[The Infamous]

the crux of the topic was that it was a meaningless fight, u refuted that by acting on zuffas behalf and stating its the biggest money fight at mw the company cud make. My retort was that was beside the point cuz we aint seeing a cent of that money so whats in it for us to see what is essential a gimme fight. Then you tried to play the casual fan angle and thats when you lose your arguement because then you are basically saying there is no purpose for what is happening its just about money. Case in point chael sonnen getting an instant rematch for losing a title fight. Or being handed another shot a weight above for losing x2 to the mw champion in spectacular fashion. Woops i better be careful how i worded that before u and your sympatico assume i am comparing sonnen to vitor or whatever

Vitor Belfort is the undisputed #1 contender, on a 3-fight win-streak (with 3 devastating finishes) and he's the most popular MW left for Weidman. The fight makes perfect sense and is far from a meaningless fight. That's all I have to say regarding this topic, you can continue to spew your nonsense.

 

[Roman Brady]

Vitor Belfort is the undisputed #1 contender, on a 3-fight win-streak (with 3 devastating finishes) and he's the most popular MW left for Weidman. The fight makes perfect sense and is far from a meaningless fight. That's all I have to say regarding this topic, you can continue to spew your nonsense.

spew nonsense? In track and field and other sports when an athlete gets popped dont their accomplishments gets diminished or in the very least questioned. Before this fight was hinted all ppl ever said was vitor is a roider blah blah blah. Now its time for this aging vet to be served to the usa wrestler and all that stuff should be swept under the rug? knowing fully well the dude that was on that 3 fight streak isnt going to be the same dude come december. stop drinking the coolaid

 

[The Infamous]

spew nonsense? In track and field and other sports when an athlete gets popped dont their accomplishments gets diminished or in the very least questioned. Before this fight was hinted all ppl ever said was vitor is a roider blah blah blah. Now its time for this aging vet to be served to the usa wrestler and all that stuff should be swept under the rug? knowing fully well the dude that was on that 3 fight streak isnt going to be the same dude come december. stop drinking the coolaid

Nonsense:

in the height of kimbo's fame he had a following and if coker sceduled a fedor fight for ppv casuals would've flocked and heads would've got paid doesnt make it any less of a meaningless fight that has no business for taking place.

The fight has definitely lost some it's lustre, but it's still an interesting/meaningful fight.

 

[Roman Brady]

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Nonsense:


The fight has definitely lost some it's lustre, but it's still an interesting/meaningful fight.

when defending why this fight isnt a waste of time u used the fact vitor has a following (so it will sell whilst rockhold/jacare do not) You harped about mma heads only making up a small number of the fan base. On that principle i used the whole kimbo phenomenom as a crutch to illustrate just how dangerous/reckless it can be to make moves dictated by casuals. You say bububut hes the number 1 contender, my question is if he was a roid cheat while garnering that win streak why is that win streak now being used to validate the purpose of this fight?

 

[The G.O.D II]

how does any of this further the dialogue? If that is truly your opinion why reply at all? You come off like a female that will just say shyt to get in the last word

Because you are just posting bullshyt. Victor is the number 1 contender. Period. regardless of what he was on before or what he looks like now. What other fight makes sense? You keep using this fall back of ppl complaining about him and hisbpast history when thats not the case. And you still compared this fight to fedora vs kimbo. You can dismiss and dogs all you want. Its still a stupid comparison

 

[Roman Brady]

Because you are just posting bullshyt. Victor is the number 1 contender. Period. regardless of what he was on before or what he looks like now. What other fight makes sense? You keep using this fall back of ppl complaining about him and hisbpast history when thats not the case. And you still compared this fight to fedora vs kimbo. You can dismiss and dogs all you want. Its still a stupid comparison

not when you take a neutral view of the convo, dude was hardpressed to think of reasons why this fight isnt a waste of time now vitor is depowered and he sold his case on "casuals" and vitors "following". Well thats why the ufc are making it but why should we care? Oh Hes a number 1 contender and its the only fight that makes sense so those wins are fine now hes being used as a sacrifice for usa?

You saw the ariel interview dude looks like hes just recovered from malaria and dont come with that what fight makes sense malarkey it was through a stroke of luck or some1 being paid off that this fight is happening at all. Rockhold or jacare are obviously the 2 names that cud slot in.

 

[The G.O.D II]

not when you take a neutral view of the convo, dude was hardpressed to think of reasons why this fight isnt a waste of time now vitor is depowered and he sold his case on "casuals" and vitors "following". Well thats why the ufc are making it but why should we care? Oh Hes a number 1 contender and its the only fight that makes sense so those wins are fine now hes being used as a sacrifice for usa?

You saw the ariel interview dude looks like hes just recovered from malaria and dont come with that what fight makes sense malarkey it was through a stroke of luck or some1 being paid off that this fight is happening at all. Rockhold or jacare are obviously the 2 names that cud slot in.

Jacare is one fight away over a top guy for the belt. Rockhold got his head kicked to Bolivia by Victor but he should get a shot because Victor physique isnt up to your standards. Regardless of what you might think ( I am in agreement with you that Wiedman more then likely will destroy him) he has earned his shot. Why is that so difficult to understand. From a competitive and business standpoint it makes sense. Its no Sonnen or Diaz being gifted title fights off loses. Its not an amateur fighter in kimbo slice fighting against fedor. Your analogy is still stupid no matter how many spins and twist you put on it

 

[Roman Brady]

Jacare is one fight away over a top guy for the belt. Rockhold got his head kicked to Bolivia by Victor but he should get a shot because Victor physique isnt up to your standards

dude once sonnen got a shot at jones for losing to anderson. Or hardy, leites, ali bogatinov did for gosh knows what I really dont see how you can take umbridge to anything. Whats vitor beating rockhold got to do with rockhold being first or 2nd in line when vitor gets scratched anyway?

Regardless of what you might think ( I am in agreement with you that Wiedman more then likely will destroy him) he has earned his shot. Why is that so difficult to understand. From a competitive and business standpoint it makes sense. Its no Sonnen or Diaz being gifted title fights off loses. Its not an amateur fighter in kimbo slice fighting against fedor. Your analogy is still stupid no matter how many spins and twist you put on it

my analogy is stupid if you want to make a direct comparison to vitors situation I already stated thats wasnt the case i mean how could it be fedor wasnt a champ in sf nor was kimbo ever seen as a number 1 contender. You want to play simpleton and run on a isolated (theoretical) example have at it.

 

[The G.O.D II]

dude once sonnen got a shot at jones for losing to anderson. Or hardy for beating some lowly asian I really dont see how you can take umbridge to anything. Whats vitor beating rockhold got to do with rockhold being first or 2nd in line when vitor getd scratched?

my analogy is stupid if you want to make a direct comparison to vitors situation I already stated thats wasnt the case i mean how could it be fedor wasnt a champ in sf nor was kimbo ever seen as a number 1 contender. You want to play simpleton and run on a isolated (theoretical) example have at it.

You are speaking in hypothetical now. Vitor is next. And I thought you were talking pride chanp fedor. Which makes your comparison even more irrelevant.

 

[Roman Brady]

You are speaking in hypothetical now. Vitor is next. And I thought you were talking pride chanp fedor. Which makes your comparison even more irrelevant.

yeah cuz when I mentioned coker and kimbo I clearly meant pride, that reading comprehension

 

[The G.O.D II]

yeah cuz when I mentioned coker and kimbo I clearly meant pride, that reading comprehension

SF or Pride, its still a ridiculous in comparison to this fight. Go back to the drawing board