reservoirdogs
Superstar
#1 p4p and look at the thread #s
We did it
I saw some people online already who started caping for Roman Gonzalez
So since you keep dodging my question I ask it one last time
Where the fukk else they should fight?
The Official Sergey "Krusher" Kovalev vs Andre "S.O.G." Ward Fight Thread
- Thread starter Mr. Leonidas
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I saw some people online already who started caping for Roman Gonzalez
Where the fukk else they should fight?
I must be the only person to not have this fight close. I thought Kov did little to nothing after the 3rd when Dre started putting body work together.
Mr. Leonidas
All Star
I got you. This shouldn't have been in Vegas cuz neither of these guys are know well outside the boxing community. The most shocking thing I discovered while in Vegas for the fight? That NOBODY KNEW a) who these guys were and b) there was even a fight going on! They're not Vegas attractions. I woulda been fine with NY (insurance issues notwithstanding), Forum in CA (Oakland and Bay area were rightly ruled out) or even DC or FL. Remember neither of these guys are a draw so regardless of location you weren't gonna have a sellout. There were maaad empty seats last night bruh. My Bros and I moved down 5 rows to be specific.
But even IF you're gonna put it in Vegas, they should has diversified the judges. One american, a canadIan and a European. But 3 American judges aint fair, just like 3 Russian judges wouldn't have been fair either.
Mr. Leonidas
All Star
And let's be clear- Ward is NOT #1. He didn't win clearly enough at all. I was never in the belief that the winner of the fight automatically is #1. It all depended on how the fight was won. And whether ya agree or not, this will forever be considered a controversial victory for Ward. Look at the press and media and boxing gurus- all are in agreement that the fight was close, controversial decision and that this was Wards worst performance since the Boone fight.
reservoirdogs
Superstar
but it's like this every time
they don't import judges from other countries usually, this case wasn't an exception
and most of the times there's no problem from it
reservoirdogs
Superstar
I think it wasn't a bad performance at all, Kovalev was just really good
and a win is a win, for me Ward is clearly #1
no Chocolatito win is better than any type of wi over Kovlev
Mr. Leonidas
All Star
That's literally not true bro. American judges aren't the only judges used in American boxing. This is fact. The commissions choose the judges and relay their choices to the camps. If the camps agree they move forward but camps can object a different option if they feel the need to. Same with refs.
Mr. Leonidas
All Star
Cmon bro, stop being biased. How can you say it wasn't a bad performance at all when Ward got dropped for the first in a decade? His face was busted up, he was getting hit with shots he literally never got hit with before. He didn't even have as a big a speed advantage as we thought he would. He was landing one shot at a time, excessive clinching, and was being moved by Kovalevs shots.
I spoke to Merchant about p4p and he stated that he feels Gonzalez and Ward, though they won their last fights, didn't dominate or put on p4p performances so he feels the #1 spot is still vacant- and I agree.
if these same guys had Kovalev you'd be saying the exact opposite.
Get the fukk outta here with that
why would I say the opposite? GGG is not the best fighter in the world. I rank Ward, Chocolotito, Crawford, and Kovalev ahead of him. I would also put Superman ahead of him despite not really facing anyone notable in a while, but his run in 2013 is better than anything GGG ever done. Lomo and Rigo right there in the mix, and Lomo moves ahead if he beats Axeman. and lastly Canelo, who has basically has not looked as spectacular as GGG but has faced way better opposition.All the guys that I named have either captured titles at different weights, beat fighters who have gone on to become champions, or faced killers at their particular weight, except for Lomo who will be facing a killer next week and already has GRJ on his resume. GGG hasnt done any of those 3 things...and its hard to believe that at 34 years old, his best win is against Kell Brook.
reservoirdogs
Superstar
Cause he got dropped against a p4p top5 guy who is a big puncher and the (once) king of Ward's "new" weightclass and after that he found a way back and imo turned the tables.
It was narrow but the level of opposition was also better.
Ward beat Barrera, Smith, etc... much easier but I still value a performance like yesterday higher cause this was a true test and I think Ward edged it out and solved it.
so we go by who lands more pitty patty punches now?
"oh yeah that soft measuring jab really did some damage...lets score that as a point"....naw breh I don't score like that
Like it or not those count my g. Ask floyd. Shyt i dont love it but it is what it is.
just dont see how anyone can say with a straight face that the winner of last night's fight should still be ranked lower than GGG. 
my god. 
the fight was debatable, I have no problem with people saying Kovalev won. the winner of last night's fight is deserving of the #1 ranking. also, there is a world of difference between a 160lber dominating a 147lber and Kovalev dominating B-Hop, something no one has ever done that I recall.
my god. the fight was debatable, I have no problem with people saying Kovalev won. the winner of last night's fight is deserving of the #1 ranking. also, there is a world of difference between a 160lber dominating a 147lber and Kovalev dominating B-Hop, something no one has ever done that I recall.
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
true to a certain extent.....but im talking bout me not everyone else.
the punch has to have some type of sound effect....some bruise......snap ur head even if its just a lil bit.
I mean I got a problem if u score a round for a boxer who landed 5 soft jabs but got hit with 3 power shots that fukk him up n got him bleeding..
this needs to be a discussion cause a lot of arguments come from nikkas scoring different.lol
there is really not concrete rule on scoring in boxing(even with the ring generalship/effective aggression rules....etc)....shyt is left up to interpretation a lot of times.
just like some refs would call certain shyt knock downs and some wont.....that's why boxing cause so many arguments.
Even with that Jab, still a ward round imo
