The Official Sergey "Krusher" Kovalev vs Andre "S.O.G." Ward Fight Thread

[LeMAO]

Defense
Effective aggression
Ring generalship
Clean and Hard Punching

i don't see any criteria here can be given to Ward even per round. anyone that will say that Ward took last 6 rounds specially 10
should stop watching boxing. finished watching the replay in slow mo and muted.
to be a champion you need to beat the champion, Ward only needs 3 judges + 1 Ref and Las Vegas with cheering americans. ROBBERY
rematch should be in Russia to avoid WW3...

 

[Axum Ezana]

that's why we believe if walters makes it a rough n tuff inside fight to the body, he can beat loma......we already seen salido do it.

 

[Axum Ezana]

People think Ward or Kov are easy favorites over Stevenson.

Stevenson is a different animal than both of them. So we wont know until they get in the ring.

Kovalev is solid straight forward boxer with good defense and explosive power
Ward is awkward and unorthodox cagey fighter with great physical strength and defense
Stevenson is freak athlete who offensively may be better than both but not as good as either defensively.

All of them are great counterpunchers. Stevenson presents difficulties for both of them that they may not have had with each other.

Even fights to me. I personally would favor Stevenson over both, slightly. That's saying a lot because they truly are two of the top 4 or 5 fighters in the world. the one problem is Stevenson is getting old.

Stevenson has a great chance vs anyone with that one ko power. lol

mad underrated cause of his inactivity and his suspect chin.

 

[Suiken]

Defense
Effective aggression
Ring generalship
Clean and Hard Punching

i don't see any criteria here can be given to Ward even per round. anyone that will say that Ward took last 6 rounds specially 10
should stop watching boxing. finished watching the replay in slow mo and muted.
to be a champion you need to beat the champion, Ward only needs 3 judges + 1 Ref and Las Vegas with cheering americans. ROBBERY
rematch should be in Russia to avoid WW3...

From round 6 and on, Ward landed more cleaner shots. You need to at least win one of the championship rounds if you want to convince the judges, regardless of who have the belt. And Ward clearly won both 11 and 12.

 

[King P]

Had it 115-112 Ward.

Kovalev started off hot, but as the fight went on Ward broke him down. Those body shots were vicious and definitely took a toll on Kovalev. Ran outta steam, his punches weren't as crisp. SOG has him figured out by the 6th and never looked back. fukk dumbass Letterman and his shytty scorecards. Accusing Ward of running everytime he stepped back, plus giving Kovalev credit for punches he didn't land flush or sometimes didn't land if at all

Close fight, but Ward won. No robbery, even though everybody wants to shout it to the high heavens.

As far as I'm concerned, this was Ward's "Castillo fight". Betcha he beats him easier in the rematch

 

[reservoirdogs]

Some thought Draw or that Kov won the fight. For the past 3 years, we all know US Russ have been at real odds. Sour, poor relations geopolitically. Some fighters from Rus have came over and took L's in some of their big fights since these two countries have been at odds which leads some to believe that no fighter from Rus will in the states and vice versa.


Now Ward a stand up guy and and I know with this much controversy he will honor the re-match and may mop the floor with him or he may lose. Pay attention to different websites, boxing sites, youtube etc and watch for the comments and read how the people respond.

I personally want every US fighter to dominate globally and if they take a L, let's call a spade to spade to preserve the integrity of the sport. I don't want foreign fighters coming here crying that they lost or was judged unfairly due to political bull shyt in politics. We know a lot of already wealthy individuals make a lot of money off boxing and we know that boxing is a huge sport for both countries.

Some say this has remnants of Bradley Pacman 1

Read the comments around the web

The re-match will be a good and real money maker

Ward tops Kovalev, who calls out 'wrong decision'

Where I looked the comments so far (here, Badlefthook, Boxigscene to an extent), people mostly shared the opinon that the fight could go either way and the general opinion among boxing heads isn't the robbery scenario

Sure, there will be some guys even among boxing head who will cry robbery but among people who know boxing the majority opinion is that it could go either way

idc what the top comments say on youtube, facebook pages and news portals, those surfaces are filled with casuals who really don't know what they are talking about they just get emotional ad think that they know shyt cause they watched their first fight since Mayweather vs Pacquiao. They are simple minded and predictable when it comes to boxing. They always root for the action fighter and they cry robbery if the action fighter loses. They are the people who still think Pac beat Maywether.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Kovalev lives in the USA for years now, he became famous there, he earns huge amount of money there (not lke in Russia) but now he's still " Americans..."

 

[Axum Ezana]

Kov gets knocked out in 15.

When Ward pushed him down in the10th, I knew he was done.

Bruh legs were gone.

yes they need to bring back 15 rds....lot of fights would come out different......15rd fighters from the 80's n down have way more heart/stamina than these new boyz.

 

[LeMAO]

From round 6 and on, Ward landed more cleaner shots. You need to at least win one of the championship rounds if you want to convince the judges, regardless of who have the belt. And Ward clearly won both 11 and 12.

clearly won 11 but not 12 and specially not 10. you need to beat the champion not just survive.

Defense - mehto ok for both, and this is even Ward exposed great defense
Effective aggression - KOVA barely
Ring generalship - KOVA
Clean and Hard Punching - both

I just can not give Andre 7 rounds, even if Kova won 5 of the first 6 no way that Ward clean out the rest of the rounds. clearly homecooking and a draw is a gift decision for Ward
The undercard foretold the fix was in

 

[Axum Ezana]

smh at this replay of ward's reaction. man i'm done with hbo for real. they are so blatantly fukkin bias towards white fighters it's just disgusting. and it's a shame cause these white fighters are great fighter's, but HBO makes you hate em. jim is just pathetic all the way around. i'm watching all future ppv's on skysports or any other network that carries em.

plus kkkovaL didn't help his self by supporting trump and calling Adonis a monkey way back.

other than that I agree.

 

[Axum Ezana]

Kovalev is bigger and stronger than GGG

yep kkkovaL is the most skilled Russian boxer Ive saw so far. we'll see how good loma skills are in the long run



i cant call none of them complete though cause they cant fight on the inside at all. clinching is for amateurs and against queensbury rules.

 

[Suiken]

clearly won 11 but not 12 and specially not 10. you need to beat the champion not just survive.

Defense - mehto ok for both, and this is even Ward exposed great defense
Effective aggression - KOVA barely
Ring generalship - KOVA
Clean and Hard Punching - both

The undercard foretold the fix was in

You score the fight on round by round basis. What you did on the previous round, no matter how dominant you were or how many punches you threw and landed is irrelevant on the next round. I just rewatched the fight and made me more convinced that Andre got it. I had him winning 3,5,7,8,9,11 and 12, although most of them are just barely won due to low output of connected punches from both fighters. Jabs doesn't really hurt that much but hey, it counts! Especially when Kovalev failed to land any significant punches like he did in the first 2 rounds.

I love how people say that Kovalev was not hurt, when you can clearly see Ward made his nose bleed.

for both of these fighters, though. They put up an entertaining chess match on the ring and deserved a rematch.

 

[LeMAO]

You score the fight on round by round basis. What you did on the previous round, no matter how dominant you were or how many punches you threw and landed is irrelevant on the next round. I just rewatched the fight and made me more convinced that Andre got it. I had him winning 3,5,7,8,9,11 and 12, although most of them are just barely won due to low output of connected punches from both fighters.

I love how people say that Kovalev was not hurt, when you can clearly see Ward made his nose bleed.

the so called rounds that can go either way, the champ should take that round or you can use the 4 criteria i posted
RD 10 all the judges gave that round to Ward ?

 

[reservoirdogs]

Not as a person but as a fighter Kovalev yet again grew in my eyes though.

I couldn't believe that he keeps countering Ward and establish his jab.
After rd 2 he seriously got me like

like... Andre Ward on the ground getting knocked down by a well timed counter?

and eve though Kovalev always says he has no strategy and etc... in the first half of the fight he was surprisingly good on the inside when he was willing to fight on the inside.
in the second half Ward beat him there too but that's cause Ward is still the currently best inside fighter and you can't just fully prepare to that with a few months of sambo training.
But Kovalev certainly did his best.

I knew he has a strong and precise jab but I'd never ever thought that he would establish his jab before and over Ward's.

In mirror of all these thing the fact that Ward eventually came back and edged it out...
When he slowly but steadily started to take over first by making it a dog fight where Kovalev's timing, power, prefered pace and phone booth jab got completely nullified and then turning up the heat in the last rounds when Kovalev was so tired that he breathed through his ass....

 

[Knicksman20]

Watching the fight now bruh's because I missed it last night.Going into the 9th & I have Ward down by 1 point. If someone doesn't get KO'ed I can see this being "controversial" if it goes to the scorecards. Side note, Lampley & Lederman & extra terrible tonight. Thank God RJ is there to balance their bullshyt