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[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Which one of those guys would’ve been a factor these past 10 years?

Safins shot making at the AUS would give anyone in history problems

 

[T.he I.nformant]

Greatness on display again—salute to Nadal

I’m not a big tennis fan but I usually will tune in for the majors if one of the big three are involved especially Nadal

I’ve always liked him the most

Where does the sport go when they retire?

Anybody coming up that looks like they got the juice?

 

[Yapdatfool]

Anybody coming up that looks like they got the juice?

No. There's a LOT of talent but none consistent enough to be fed, nole, rafa dominant. Mens game gonna be open season each major when them 3 retire.

 

[malbaker86]

Djokovic and Nadal would have both been factors the last 10 years. But no way they are winning that many grand slam titles and being dominant on Hard and Grass courts without the ATP slowing down those courts

I don't believe this bruh. Some peeps are just going to be good no matter what era they're in. The rest of the ATP had a chance to adapt their game when the courts got switched up and Nadal/Djokovic (Fed too obviously) adjusted better than the rest to those changes.

 

[UpAndComing]

I don't believe this bruh. Some peeps are just going to be good no matter what era they're in. The rest of the ATP had a chance to adapt their game when the courts got switched up and Nadal/Djokovic (Fed too obviously) adjusted better than the rest to those changes.

The courts shouldn't have switched up. That's the point I'm making. And it's obvious how they switched up, to favor players who aren't dominant on Hard/Grass courts to now be dominant

 

[malbaker86]

The courts shouldn't have switched up. That's the point I'm making. And it's obvious how they switched up, to favor players who aren't dominant on Hard/Grass courts to now be dominant

aye but even if you point to them switching it up, Fed still won the majority of the HC slams and all of Wimbledon from 03-07 as well as basically the USO and AO during those times too. It's not like it led to anything being different. Nadal just eventually hawked him down for good in 08 and Novak walked them both down in 2011.

 

[UpAndComing]

aye but even if you point to them switching it up, Fed still won the majority of the HC slams and all of Wimbledon from 03-07 as well as basically the USO and AO during those times too. It's not like it led to anything being different. Nadal just eventually hawked him down for good in 08 and Novak walked them both down in 2011.

You can't argue a point after the fact like it didn't have an effect lol

"Hawking down" means nothing. Tim Henman been to a million grand slam semi-finals, but never broke through. Almost =/= Dominance

On top of that you had players who were less effective in this current era like Wawrinka, Milos Raonic, Del Poltro, etc because of the slowed down courts.. who would have prevented Djokovic and Nadal from breaking through as well

 

[malbaker86]

You can't argue a point after the fact like it didn't have an effect lol

"Hawking down" means nothing. Tim Henman been to a million grand slam semi-finals, but never broke through. Almost =/= Dominance

On top of that you had players who were less effective in this current era like Wawrinka, Milos Raonic, Del Poltro, etc because of the slowed down courts.. who would have prevented Djokovic and Nadal from breaking through as well

that's not a fact that it would have happened had they not slowed the courts down is my point. Great players adapt their games to whatever surface they play on; that's a fact. Outside of each other in the big 3, nobody was going to stop them no matter what type of court speed etc, they were just head and shoulders above the competition talent wise and still are when they're all healthy. Ain't got nothing to do with court speed

Nadal at 17 had already made the 3rd round at Wimbledon and the AO and 2nd round at the USO in 2003 and 2004 before Fed became "Fed". He was going to be great off clay no matter what they did to those courts. That's my point

 

[malbaker86]

Imagine warming up to face Rafa at the FO and you hear this from the announcer

 

[Jermio]

14 Frenches? Crazy. Just makes that Soderling year even crazier.

 

[Jermio]

Fed stans would never admit this but its true....he didnt rly had a true rival untill nadal and novak came. I wonder how many slams he won before rafa and novak started to buzz...

Fed's movement oncourt was unholy through like 2007. Fed wasn't the same after. shyt is like comparing Jordan in 1993 to Kobe in 2004 or something.

 

[Jermio]

Federer got fat on bums though too. Early 2000s there was no comp. So yeah he was dominant until the other two reach they prime.

That's just facts

Nah, that's fake news. Fed made real nikkas look like bums. Roddikk was a real nikka for a mf-er with just a serve and forehand. Remove Fed and he has at least 3 slams. Nalbandian, one of the greatest talents, has a slam if you remove Federer. What Fed was doing before Nadal and Djoke entered the picture was legit. You could see the adjustment in real time. Not so much from Nadal, who was beating Carlos Moya when he was 11 or some shyt, but Djoke definitely adapted and learned from Fed and Nadal.

 

[null]

that's not a fact that it would have happened had they not slowed the courts down is my point. Great players adapt their games to whatever surface they play on; that's a fact.

you can't "adapt your game" if you are not fast enough to hit the ball.

if ball speed/movement "has no effect" then "great players" would have similar results on all sufaces wouldn't they?

but they don't have same performance on all surfaces which shows that there are limits to how much you can "adjust" your game.

make the courts twice as fast and no one would "adjust" to that. it would ruin the game.

ergo: speeding up and slowing down courts has an effect.

 

[null]

Fed stans would never admit this but its true....he didnt rly had a true rival untill nadal and novak came. I wonder how many slams he won before rafa and novak started to buzz...

Invert that statement and that question.

How many did Novak win after Nadal and Federer stopped buzzing?

You will never admit that.

Also it is getting clearer by the day that there are no rising supertalents to challenge these guys.

In fact the standard is lower and the gap bigger than when Federer started. Even with the slowed down courts.

For Fed Roddikk, Agassi, Sampras were still around. We don't even have that level of player coming up or in the background now.

 

[null]

Nah, that's fake news. Fed made real nikkas look like bums. Roddikk was a real nikka for a mf-er with just a serve and forehand. Remove Fed and he has at least 3 slams. Nalbandian, one of the greatest talents, has a slam if you remove Federer. What Fed was doing before Nadal and Djoke entered the picture was legit. You could see the adjustment in real time. Not so much from Nadal, who was beating Carlos Moya when he was 11 or some shyt, but Djoke definitely adapted and learned from Fed and Nadal.

exactly. these guys want to rewrite history.