The Official #Trumpset Comeback Thread

[JahFocus CS]

Doesnt that make his decisions in the past worst? The politician is acting on behalf of others. Trump is beholden to no one.

So... Trump gets docked points for not being for sale to the highest bidder?

Be the pimp, not the ho

 

[Lola]

He's almost as bad as Mitty then eh? What a shame. Let's see if this sticks by Wed!

True that. None of his stuff sticks to him. Let's see if this tax thing survives a couple of news cycles. The story about him breaking the law and spending money in Cuba went nowhere.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

breh, at what point did you MISS when i said 90 percent of your post

look at whillary, whose party did everything they could to ensure her nomination. look at trump, whose party did everything they could to ensure he wouldnt get it. you clowns dont see a difference here

You didn't say 90 percent of my post because my post is 100% aimed at your use of the word "politician" to differentiate Trump's and Hillary's past indiscretions.

My entire post points out how nonsensical it is to use the term "establishment politician". Trump not having a congressional voting record is not good enough reason to see him as an anti establishment candidate or a less corrupt figure than Hillary.

You can't have an establishment candidate without the establishment - WHICH IS TRUMP!

How hard of a concept is that for you guys to understand?

You can't hate Hillary for taking marching orders from Trump, then turn around and say, "well at least Trump didn't vote for that."

The same democratic establishment that pushed Hillary to the top over Bernie are all Donald trumps

 

[tru_m.a.c]

So... Trump gets docked points for not being for sale to the highest bidder?

Be the pimp, not the ho

no he gets docked points for being the bidder and pretending he was always about the people

 

[the cac mamba]

You didn't say 90 percent of my post because my post is 100% aimed at your use of the word "politician" to differentiate Trump's and Hillary's past indiscretions.

My entire post points out how nonsensical it is to use the term "establishment politician". Trump not having a congressional voting record is not good enough reason to see him as an anti establishment candidate or a less corrupt figure than Hillary.

You can't have an establishment candidate without the establishment - WHICH IS TRUMP!

How hard of a concept is that for you guys to understand?

You can't hate Hillary for taking marching orders from Trump, then turn around and say, "well at least Trump didn't vote for that."

The same democratic establishment that pushed Hillary to the top over Bernie are all Donald trumps

theres a difference between the establishment and the political establishment. not a huge one, but it IS different

trump was never a government employee who enriched himself by using the public. for whatever grievance you have (and there are several), he was always a private citizen

 

[the cac mamba]

no he gets docked points for being the bidder and pretending he was always about the people

its not my fault that his redneck fanbase falls for that. it still doesnt change what MY point was

 

[tru_m.a.c]

theres a difference between the establishment and the political establishment. not a huge one, but it IS different

Holy shyt you don't believe that and you know it. Adding a word doesn't present a significant enough difference to draw a contrast. Stop bullshyttin yourself. The political establishment cannot exist without the top 1%. GTFOH with this bullshyt b.

trump was never a government employee who enriched himself by using the public. for whatever grievance you have, he was always a private citizen

what are you talking about. What does it matter if he was a government employee or a private citizen. He used the public to enrich himself by lobbying for laws and buying off politicians. So now only government employees should be held up accountable for corruption and crony capitalism?

Please don't enter any future banking threads. Don't bytch about insurance companies. Don't complain about the military contractors feeding off of Israel. Stop it. You've completely offed yourself in one post.

 

[the cac mamba]

Holy shyt you don't believe that and you know it. Adding a word doesn't present a significant enough difference to draw a contrast. Stop bullshyttin yourself. The political establishment cannot exist without the top 1%. GTFOH with this bullshyt b.


what are you talking about. What does it matter if he was a government employee or a private citizen. He used the public to enrich himself by lobbying for laws and buying off politicians. So now only government employees should be held up accountable for corruption and crony capitalism?

Please don't enter any future banking threads. Don't bytch about insurance companies. Don't complain about the military contractors feeding off of Israel. Stop it. You've completely offed yourself in one post.

fukk outta here breh. and let me reiterate that I DONT DISAGREE WITH YOU

heres an example; hillary is beholden to the foreign governments who filled her coffer in a way that trump is not. because she's a political whore, and thats how she operates/operated to get where she is. which is cool thats how it works. but stop telling me that they have the same fukkin job description

 

[JahFocus CS]

no he gets docked points for being the bidder and pretending he was always about the people

Is that worse than being the ho and pretending to be about the people?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

fukk outta here breh. and let me reiterate that I DONT DISAGREE WITH YOU

heres an example; hillary is beholden to the foreign governments who filled her coffer in a way that trump is not

Yes, Donald Trump has given to the Clinton Foundation

Plouffe is right that Trump gave at least $100,000 to the foundation, a fact that Trump and his campaign readily admit. One caveat: It appears that the money came through Trump’s own foundation, not directly from Trump.

The Clinton Foundation lists Donald J. Trump as a contributor with a cumulative lifetime donation amount between $100,001 to $250,000. It’s not clear if Trump himself made a personal contribution, but tax forms show that the Donald J. Trump Foundation (which Trump controls) donated $100,000 to the foundation in 2009and reserved a table at the Clinton Foundation gala for $10,000 in 2010.

Trump’s daughter Ivanka is also listed as a donor who gave between $5,001 and $10,000 and her father-in-law, Charles Kushner, gave between $250,001 and $500,000.

Trump’s gift amount places him in the top 0.2 percent of the foundation’s donors. Most of its 300,000 donors (85.5 percent) gave less than $250.

Breaking it down by dollar amount, however, Trump’s total contribution isn’t that big. We estimated that the foundation has received at least $800 million in donations, over 70 percent of which came from gifts of $1 million or more.

In 2009, the Trump Foundation gave $926,750 to some 40 organizations (page 18). The Clinton Foundation received one of the largest gifts that year, matched or surpassed only by the Arnold Palmer Medical Center Foundation ($100,000), the New York Presbyterian Hospital ($125,000) and the Police Athletic League ($156,000).

because she's a political whore, and thats how she operates/operated to get where she is. which is cool thats how it works. but stop telling me that they have the same fukkin job description

Who ever said this? The establishment politician functions within the establishment, which trump represents. Whether they have the same job description does not matter if they are working together to craft the same policies. Isn't that why we want to see the transcripts between Hillary and Goldman Sachs? How many Trumps were in that room?

Trump is an active member of the establishment, donating money to elect politicians he agrees with/feels will pass laws that benefit him.

Hillary is an establishment politician, who receives donations from active members of the establishment and makes decisions based on the feelings of active members of the establishment.

Active members of the establishment should be tied directly to the congressional voting record of the politicians they support. You wouldn't sit here and excuse Jamie Dimon for pushing swaps and derivatives based on the fact that he never held public office. So don't try to push that argument now because of your personal dislike for Hillary. It doesn't fit for Trump. It doesn't fit for Carly Fiorina. It doesn't fit for anyone in the donor class.

I have no idea why you think that because someone isn't a politician themselves, they shouldn't be held accountable for beliefs they did not cast on the Senate floor.

 

[King Kreole]

Who ever said this? The establishment politician functions within the establishment, which trump represents. Whether they have the same job description does not matter if they are working together to craft the same policies. Isn't that why we want to see the transcripts between Hillary and Goldman Sachs? How many Trumps were in that room?

Trump is an active member of the establishment, donating money to elect politicians he agrees with/feels will pass laws that benefit him.

Hillary is an establishment politician, who receives donations from active members of the establishment and makes decisions based on the feelings of active members of the establishment.

Active members of the establishment should be tied directly to the congressional voting record of the politicians they support. You wouldn't sit here and excuse Jamie Dimon for pushing swaps and derivatives based on the fact that he never held public office. So don't try to push that argument now because of your personal dislike for Hillary. It doesn't fit for Trump. It doesn't fit for Carly Fiorina. It doesn't fit for anyone in the donor class.

I have no idea why you think that because someone isn't a politician themselves, they shouldn't be held accountable for beliefs they did not cast on the Senate floor.

The system doesn't break when the business class try to influence the political class, it breaks when the political class acquiesce to that influence. Businesspeople don't take an oath of office to work for the public's best interest. Their whole goal is to push as far as possible. The politicians' goal is supposed to be to rebuff those undue influences if they aren't beneficial to the general public. There is no equivalency here. The people who have the power to write and enforce the laws are the ones who should be held accountable for those laws being shytty.

If a girl gets an STD because she let some thirsty dirtbag smash, that's on her, not the dirtbag.

 

[the cac mamba]

I have no idea why you think that because someone isn't a politician themselves, they shouldn't be held accountable for beliefs they did not cast on the Senate floor.

stop puttin words in my mouth

 

[tru_m.a.c]

The system doesn't break when the business class try to influence the political class, it breaks when the political class acquiesce to that influence. Businesspeople don't take an oath of office to work for the public's best interest. Their whole goal is to push as far as possible. The politicians' goal is supposed to be to rebuff those undue influences if they aren't beneficial to the general public. There is no equivalency here. The people who have the power to write and enforce the laws are the ones who should be held accountable for those laws being shytty.

If a girl gets an STD because she let some thirsty dirtbag smash, that's on her, not the dirtbag.

Let me help you out here young blood:
The system doesn't break when Trump tries to influence the political class, it breaks when the political class acquiesce to Trump's influence. Trump didn't take an oath of office to work for the public's best interest - only his shareholder interest. His whole goal is to push as far as possible for the benefit of his business . The politicians' goal is supposed to be to rebuff those undue influences if they aren't beneficial to the general public. However, if you're a neoliberal, a conservative, or a republican, what benefits Trump is seen as beneficial to the general public. There is no equivalency here. The people who have the power to write and enforce the laws are the ones who should be held accountable for those laws being shytty, except if you're a neoliberal, a conservative, or a republican, you more than likely agreed with every shytty law that has gutted the middle class because you believed in the idea of pure capitalism. You argued against increased taxes because Trump told you his business can't function with them. You argued against universal healthcare because you believed it rob job creators like Trump of the ability to function in the insurance market. So you let the market write the rules that would regulate them because you believed in the supply-side economics philosophies that Trump pushed.

If a girl gets an STD because she let some thirsty dirtbag smash, that's on her, not the dirtbag.

Notice here that you now switch your position of support and consider Trump a dirtbag to fit your victim-blaming analogy. Regardless of whether or not Hillary shouldn't have been influenced, Trump is still a dirt bag - so why is he in the race?

Because if you're a conservative or republican, you don't actually disagree with Trump's policy or influence. For you, Trump becomes a dirt bag the moment he runs for President. Now to distinguish yourself as anti-Hillary the policies you supported are considered wrong. Now the system is corrupt.

But when liberals and progressives were pointing this out for decades, it was "let the market work".

I keep saying this over and over again. You guys cannot have it both ways.

 

[King Kreole]

Let me help you out here young blood:
The system doesn't break when Trump tries to influence the political class, it breaks when the political class acquiesce to Trump's influence. Trump didn't take an oath of office to work for the public's best interest - only his shareholder interest. His whole goal is to push as far as possible for the benefit of his business . The politicians' goal is supposed to be to rebuff those undue influences if they aren't beneficial to the general public. However, if you're a neoliberal, a conservative, or a republican, what benefits Trump is seen as beneficial to the general public. There is no equivalency here. The people who have the power to write and enforce the laws are the ones who should be held accountable for those laws being shytty, except if you're a neoliberal, a conservative, or a republican, you more than likely agreed with every shytty law that has gutted the middle class because you believed in the idea of pure capitalism. You argued against increased taxes because Trump told you his business can't function with them. You argued against universal healthcare because you believed it rob job creators like Trump of the ability to function in the insurance market. So you let the market write the rules that would regulate them because you believed in the supply-side economics philosophies that Trump pushed.

thank you

ps. supply-side economics ≠ crony capitalism

Notice here that you now switch your position of support and consider Trump a dirtbag to fit your victim-blaming analogy. Regardless of whether or not Hillary shouldn't have been influenced, Trump is still a dirt bag - so why is he in the race?

If being a dirtbag is a disqualifying factor, you haven't, and probably never will, vote in a Presidential election.

And who am I victim blaming? Politicians? ahahaha

Because if you're a conservative or republican, you don't actually disagree with Trump's policy or influence. For you, Trump becomes a dirt bag the moment he runs for President. Now to distinguish yourself as anti-Hillary the policies you supported are considered wrong. Now the system is corrupt.

But when liberals and progressives were pointing this out for decades, it was "let the market work".

I keep saying this over and over again. You guys cannot have it both ways.

Democrats obviously don't disagree with Trump's policy or influence either.

The Clintons turned the White House into a Motel 6

They weren't the first, but they were probably the most audacious.
Hillary spent the entire summer courting wealthy donors behind closed doors. 6 figure tables and 6 figure speeches, can't knock the hustle

The system has been corrupt, and the entry point for that corruption is politicians looking to cash out. Leave the White House broke and end up worth over a hundred milly, the Clintons are street legends breh