The Official "Westworld" Season 1 Thread

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One thing that stuck with me and I've been thinking about the entire day, and which I finally figured out why it stuck with me is the importance of the fly. And I'm not merely talking about the ending scene.

In the opening scene it's established that the hosts don't react to them as one crawls across Delores' eye.

Then there's the piece of dialogue about how a host could never hurt a human, they couldn't even hurt a fly. This obviously seems like a setup for the ending scene but there's an even more important scene about it, the one where the sheriff starts to malfunction when he's escorting the guests. Because what's important here is what happens precisely before he starts malfunctioning. A fly lands on his face.

Why is this important? Because of what is being discussed about the hosts in other scenes about the reveries allowing them to pick up small touches/details in human behavior and imitate them so they appear more lifelike, such as the hooker from the saloon rubbing her lips and the sheriff, when fixed, combing his mustache with his fingers. So to bring that back to the fly, what is the most subconscious, instinctive move a person makes when a fly lands on them? They swat it, and I think we all know that we do it without even thinking about it. So what happens when the hosts constantly register the guests doing this? They want to start imitating it, but to do so they would intent on killing the fly, and this goes directly against their core programming. And thus, unaware to the programmers, they have created a paradox in their system, one that is causing them to glitch.

This brings a lot more meaning to the end scene because it doesn't just mean that Delores' has somehow overcome the glitch, but this means that her AI is evolved far ahead of the other hosts in the park. And we already know why this is because of what is said about her towards the end, namely that she is the oldest host in the park. Which means she contains more reveries than any other host in the park, the same reveries that stand at the core of the hosts' changing behavior.

So we really already know why and how she has overcome her programming, and this leads me to theorize that she is in fact so far ahead of the other hosts that she is evolved even far beyond what the programmers think is going on, and that she has been playing along for a while now.
 

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Hosts can't hurt humans or whatever but they can go crazy around them and start killing other hosts creating a terrifying situation like the random host did over the milk.

Seems like a flawed system that still hasn't been fixed

Most of the robots are on the ground hog day type deal where they don't really have memories and just follow a looping storyline

Not sure what's up with the gunslinger being human. I mean he pays his money so he can do whatever he wants. I get the sense I'm supposed to feel bad about what he's doing to all the robots but really its less scary because they are just robots compared to the original film
 

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It is weird how corporate is disregarding Ed Harris. I know he paid his bread so if he wanna go around wacking hosts all day that's cool, but pulling dude scalp off and finding that map/code I think should've raised so flags on dude.

I think he might be plugged with someone who works for corporate. Or maybe he's tryna find a way to control em. Who knows


Yeah, I was thinking that wouldn't raise any red flags because that NPC did what he was supposed to do. Serve as fodder for the savage patrons...
 

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I was going to say The Gunslinger was a host that thinks he human but he did say he's has been coming there for over 30 years.

Maybe he "broke" or awoke like he father but he's hiding it and wants to "meet his maker". But is going about it incognito.
 

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I thought that too, but he wasn't able to be killed. Plus, wouldn't they be able to spot him unless he's on some Agent Smith shyt :lupe:


It is weird how corporate is disregarding Ed Harris. I know he paid his bread so if he wanna go around wacking hosts all day that's cool, but pulling dude scalp off and finding that map/code I think should've raised so flags on dude.

I think he might be plugged with someone who works for corporate. Or maybe he's tryna find a way to control em. Who knows

It's possible the Gunslinger could be an Avatar of the head writer guy or someone else behind the scenes. If he's a robot, maybe guns don't work on him because he was built to mimic a guest. And he doesn't even know it.

Both the Gunslinger and the writer guy mentioned that they're trying to figure out the next level of the "game"

Anybody noticed the voice actor for GTA V's Trevor was in this episode?

I read several interviews today where the Nolan's were repeatedly comparing their world to Grand Theft Auto.
 

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It's possible the Gunslinger could be an Avatar of the head writer guy or someone else behind the scenes. If he's a robot, maybe guns don't work on him because he was built to mimic a guest. And he doesn't even know it.

Both the Gunslinger and the writer guy mentioned that they're trying to figure out the next level of the "game"



I read several interviews today where the Nolan's were repeatedly comparing their world to Grand Theft Auto.
I'm really liking the Grand Theft Auto comparisons because it makes perfect sense. I mean this is essentially a real life version created with advanced technology. The Man in Black is just a user who wants to be a murderous omnipotent villain and he can only do this because he cannot be harmed by any of the inhabitants.
 

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It's possible the Gunslinger could be an Avatar of the head writer guy or someone else behind the scenes. If he's a robot, maybe guns don't work on him because he was built to mimic a guest. And he doesn't even know it.

Both the Gunslinger and the writer guy mentioned that they're trying to figure out the next level of the "game"



I read several interviews today where the Nolan's were repeatedly comparing their world to Grand Theft Auto.
Red Dead Redemption is more accurate...

It's Rockstars western GTA...
 

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i watched the first episode a couple hours ago

it seems pretty good...hate how they swagged with 2 inaudible whispers as plot points back to back tho :francis:

and idk how to explain it, like i know it's based off the old movie or whatever, but for a show with such an interesting premise and concept...there's a few cliche'd moments in it :manny:

but i'm interested to see how it unfolds...the creators say they got 5 seasons already planned out...hope it don't get cancelled before then
 
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