The Persuasive Power of Repeated Falsehoods

[SirBiatch]

This article is worth checking out.

Think of how many hip hop tales and bullshyt 'facts' that have stuck around simply because they're repeated so often.

Remember when magazines like XXL were trying to claim that Lil Wayne was top 5 dead or alive?

Just like now Interscope is claiming that Kendrick Lamar is some kind of prophetic rapper. Or that Drake is a hip hop legend many times over. They have the money to propel bullshyt and make it stick.

New research finds repeated false statements are more likely to be perceived as truthful, even when we have enough knowledge to contradict them.

Statements you've heard many times are easier to process, and this ease leads people "to the sometimes false conclusion that they are more truthful," the researchers write. Their [scientists'] key—and disheartening—revelation is that they found examples of this unfortunate dynamic "even when participants knew better."

http://www.psmag.com/politics-and-law/the-persuasive-power-of-repeated-falsehoods

 

[Prince Cairo]

This assumes there is a set, objective standard of truth to all of this though.

 

[SirBiatch]

This assumes there is a set, objective standard of truth to all of this though.

sort of. But not necessarily.

Put it this way: we may not know the truth behind something, but we can certainly tell when something's false/not even in the ballpark of truth.

Besides, the real worry is that there are people making money spreading deliberate, straight-up-lies every day.

 

[PhonZhi]

People can be brainwashed and manipulated.

Ya dont say

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

sort of. But not necessarily.

Put it this way: we may not know the truth behind something, but we can certainly tell when something's false/not even in the ballpark of truth.

Besides, the real worry is that there are people making money spreading deliberate, straight-up-lies every day.

this makes no sense. example?

 

[SirBiatch]

this makes no sense. example?

Why do people yawn?

Because birds migrate

 

[Prince Cairo]

this makes no sense. example?

It'd be like saying we don't know who killed Tupac and Biggie, but we know that they aren't still alive. I think.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

When wayne started calling himself the best rapper alive we all went with it.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

When wayne started calling himself the best rapper alive we all went with it.

Nah. dikk riding fakkits like YOU went with it.

 

[BO BARON]

This fakkit seems to think his opinions on music is the only thing that matters fukk off p*ssy

 

[Still Benefited]

sort of. But not necessarily.

Put it this way: we may not know the truth behind something, but we can certainly tell when something's false/not even in the ballpark of truth.

Besides, the real worry is that there are people making money spreading deliberate, straight-up-lies every day.

I think this says there is some truth to Lil Wayne being the best rapper alive,or Kendrick being a prophetic rapper,Drake being a legend

It also makes you realize the importance of "haters" in hiphop,somebody has to make sure these people who are even entertaining some of these nonsense statements,hear the opposing arguments and get snapped out of the group think ASAP.

 

[Dixon Cider]

nikkas shiesty B, I just try life my lil fukked up life and take everything with a grain of salt

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

It'd be like saying we don't know who killed Tupac and Biggie, but we know that they aren't still alive. I think.

Yeah but in OP's example "Wayne is top 5 dead or alive" that's not something as definitive as life and death. What someone thinks of a rapper, or who is on their top 5 list, is completely objective. You can't say that's "not even in the ballpark of truth" because there is no TRUE top 5 list, each person's list is whatever you are feeling, so this thread is pretty much fukking retarded, which I should have figured given the person who posted it.

 

[SirBiatch]

Yeah but in OP's example "Wayne is top 5 dead or alive" that's not something as definitive as life and death. What someone thinks of a rapper, or who is on their top 5 list, is completely objective. You can't say that's "not even in the ballpark of truth" because there is no TRUE top 5 list, each person's list is whatever you are feeling, so this thread is pretty much fukking retarded, which I should have figured given the person who posted it.

yet you found your way here as I'm sure you do to other SirBiatch threads. And read my shyt word for word like my other reluctant fans.

Fact of the matter is that Wayne is not a top 5 rapper in any respectable criteria. Sorry. Neither is Rocky before you start deflecting.

No rapper is a "fact" top 5 rapper. It all boils down to discussion and perspective. If you kept seeing marketing that said "Nas is top 5" everytime, on all major blog sites/posts, especially without thorough explanation, it'd be annoying as fukk. The arguments for Nas being top 5 are a lot more credible than Wayne's, but even still, it's not 'fact' that Nas is top 5.

For a while, Weezy being top 5 was being circulated as sound opinion/borderline fact. Just like now people are circulating Kendrick being the 'leader of the new school' as pretty much fact. As though if you don't like Kendrick and his 'black excellence', you're a c00n.

That's what I'm getting at. Falsehoods are things that are not remotely true but are constantly repeated. The constant repetition is the dangerous part. It implies that anyone with resources/money can repeat shyt and have people believe it regardless of evidence.

Do you want to debate that or do you want to keep crying about Weezy F Baby?

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

Fact of the matter is that Wayne is not a top 5 rapper in any respectable criteria. Sorry. Neither is Rocky before you start deflecting.

No rapper is a "fact" top 5 rapper. It all boils down to discussion and perspective.

Sooo.. no rapper can factually be top 5, but it CAN be a fact that Wayne isn't in the top 5? Dahell? I'm beginning to think that the word "fact" doesn't mean what you think it means. Do you even read this trash before you hit submit?