the pharcyde's otha fish song and music video is 1 of the most beautiful pieces of music

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Don't forget he was also simpin for some white girl on an early season of The Real World too


nikka, singlehandidly killed pharcyde's draw overnight.
To the point fat lip going public was like one of the first instances of anyone in rap using the internet.
to keep it real indepthly about why pharcyde had issues.
That afterward fat lip pretty much became the expression of pharcyde in the early hiphopsite.com years at the behest of a hating ass slim kid tre. Still trying to make fatlip out as the scapegoat
And also trying to pigeon hole fatlip as the cancer of the group for a drug problem. When fat lip had to bounce back with opus releases at the time as a solo artist and those releases in legacy are little known about. Yet were propped as high as his contemporary and the direction maker of where rap would head from the classic aceyalone's book of human language.


Straight up fukk, slim kid tre.

Slim kid tre, and souls of mischief are in those they should never be forgiven draws of rap.
that prince be and other wack nikkaz put out to pasture were placed.
It just so happens this group and heiro were THEE gateway drawing rap groups of thee era and also were the model of look and dress for a lot of toys. That it is alot of tajai sweater and slim kid meets opio dreads ass toy nikkas who won't keep it real.
So, if they fail to keep it real about slim kid tre and souls you need to keep an eye on Dem nikkaz cause they suspect culturally.
Plus, may do the same thing to you or your crew or your locale and cripple it as well.

Watch the signs, my friends don't fall for the rnb or commercial dancehall nikka bushbaybee ass slim kid tre ass nikkaz in a rap group.
Don't let their commercial toy sellout-ism cripple you by association.
The demise of pharcyde and also souls selling out is why California hip hop culturally as a draw was crippled.
Plus why in legacy Cali's cultural contribution is also forgotten in mainstream circles and press as well.

So you can blame slim kid tre exclusively for fukkin up Cali culturally in legacy and perception as well.

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favorite track on bizaare ride

labcabs a personal classic....crazy how well the albums held up, sonically its :whew:


Labcabin is arguably the most successful and acclaimed longplayer in culturally accepted rap melody fusion.
Shame it is also the precursor of what could happen if one of your members becomes to Hollywood.
Then sabotages the whole group just to get a check.
from a teen tv show star who culturally has no cred and no real skill.
Leading us to the further destruction of the culture and opening the doorways for drake to cause even more erosion. Thirteen plus years later till now, as well.

In hindsight, one of the greatest songs in our history.
becomes the precursor to our dark days and almost destruction in hip hop.


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nikka, singlehandidly killed pharcyde's draw overnight.
To the point fat lip going public was like one of the first instances of anyone in rap using the internet.
to keep it real indepthly about why pharcyde had issues.
That afterward fat lip pretty much became the expression of pharcyde in the early hiphopsite.com years at the behest of a hating ass slim kid tre. Still trying to make fatlip out as the scapegoat
And also trying to pigeon hole fatlip as the cancer of the group for a drug problem. When fat lip had to bounce back with opus releases at the time as a solo artist and those releases in legacy are little known about. Yet were propped as high as his contemporary and the direction maker of where rap would head from the classic aceyalone's book of human language.


Straight up fukk, slim kid tre.

Slim kid tre, and souls of mischief are in those they should never be forgiven draws of rap.
that prince be and other wack nikkaz put out to pasture were placed.
It just so happens this group and heiro were THEE gateway drawing rap groups of thee era and also were the model of look and dress for a lot of toys. That it is alot of tajai sweater and slim kid meets opio dreads ass toy nikkas who won't keep it real.
So, if they fail to keep it real about slim kid tre and souls you need to keep an eye on Dem nikkaz cause they suspect culturally.
Plus, may do the same thing to you or your crew or your locale and cripple it as well.

Watch the signs, my friends don't fall for the rnb or commercial dancehall nikka bushbaybee ass slim kid tre ass nikkaz in a rap group.
Don't let their commercial toy sellout-ism cripple you by association.
The demise of pharcyde and also souls selling out is why California hip hop culturally as a draw was crippled.
Plus why in legacy Cali's cultural contribution is also forgotten in mainstream circles and press as well.

So you can blame slim kid tre exclusively for fukkin up Cali culturally in legacy and perception as well.

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Art,
Explain the souls part here....I dont remember the selling out part of them and I think I'm more well versed about this early 90s shyt than most in the Coli
 

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Art,
Explain the souls part here....I dont remember the selling out part of them and I think I'm more well versed about this early 90s shyt than most in the Coli


Somehow or another souls of mischief although never going platinum but close at 750k.
was not good enough for jive and the group had to feel some pressure from outkast self admittedly biting souls of mischief, for the pimp infused southernplay......
That it was even included in the marketing and pr run for the soon to flop change of direction on no man's land. Then, outkast using a lack of culture content direction and pimping out the bitten direction of souls and becoming a larger group.
That when no man's land dropped souls deviated and their draw never recovered.
Plus the technical revolution was ushered in by nas singlehandidly and souls never adhered to bolstering their skill set in that manner and still never fully ramped up.
including a change in sonic landscape from their styles era base.
Till the internet sprung up and souls were early marketers online with bcc. who used their online sway to develop a pass system.
After the glass ceiling was shattered after the death of big and Pac.
Which allowed older heiro fans to construct a pass system to extend to the heiro members who souled't out. Where soon coupled with hiphopinfinity.com semantics and noob gateway emo fans trying to appear as rap experts.
Gave them the opportunity to rekindle their draw.
As they were more skilled than most emo artist and worked as a post emo noob gateway former cultural associate artist.
that post jiggy did not look as destructive in hindsight but were.
The reason why people, namely grassroots pop marketed rap fans have a disconnect to the culture of hip hop.
is this emo based hiphopinfinity.com based pass system.
that makes no sense, culturally to hip hop whatsoever and is just a fake taste making system.
All based on fard's warped ideals of what he likes in rap and gives a pass in his sellout racist head.
Which has become pretty much the ideals in press used by wack music outlets and review houses in bulk as well.
As most of those writers come from some.extension of hhi.com.

That once slug garnered the distribution deal to authenticate emo.
Emo was soon made into and captured by the pop label of rocafella and used Kanye as the new face of pop emo as a genre.
Till eventually every genre in rap pretty much became or emulated emo in some facet.
Especially after the so-called fiddy versus Kanye battle.

Heiro is included in all of this.
as they created a way using the internet.
to gain wiggle room to redraw after souls put themselves and the collective minus del.
in a non-drawing realm and culturally damned era from 94-98.
Post 98 using the internet heiro was able to re-cultivate their reach and draw.
despite being actual sellouts and ruining their draw in an era which usually was a point of no return.


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Pharcyde is in my top 5 groups of all time easily, but I'll say the whole beef between the two factions of Lip/Tre vs Imani/Bootie is a joke....an even bigger joke is how Imani owns the name "The Pharcyde" and therefore anything the last 5+ years youve seen as "the pharcyde" especially in terms of concerts is only the 2 wackest members of the group...I know more than a few people who were fooled by this
 

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Pharcyde is in my top 5 groups of all time easily, but I'll say the whole beef between the two factions of Lip/Tre vs Imani/Bootie is a joke....an even bigger joke is how Imani owns the name "The Pharcyde" and therefore anything the last 5+ years youve seen as "the pharcyde" especially in terms of concerts is only the 2 wackest members of the group...I know more than a few people who were fooled by this

Imani is the one holding everything back. All the other members seem like they've moved on and matured. Tre & Bootie happy doing their side projects and Fatlip would probably have no qualms with a reunion. The last interview I saw of them he was acting like the group split yesterday:why:

5:30 onwards
 

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This was one of the first tracks that I liked from the pharcyde. Still in my top 3
 
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