The Pope Vs Mega Preacher

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White people don't have to rely on the white church because they already have a power structure. The black church is the only organization with structure and power in the black community and it is not being used to organize and empower the people in it

We're not in the 1940 anymore the black church is not what it use to be.
 

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This statement doesn't apply to every black church. My church gets it right and empowers and helps the community. Please don't generalize.

fukk your church. I will generalize cuz I am not running around the entire gotdayum country making a list of which black churches are cool and which are not so I will say all ain't shyt
 

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Explain how I am wrong. What else in the black community has structure and organization

Well, one small example, I'm a member of NSBE. You may know it as the National Society of Black Engineers. Every year we hold conferences, job fairs, and give scholarships which benefit thousands of college-age and professional black people throughout the country. And that's just one organization; there are hundreds of other secular groups like this that work toward the benefit of black people every day. Is that not structure and organization?
 

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Umm this is why black people are always confused.

First off Creflo Dollar has no power or influence outside of his own congregation.

The Pope has power and influence across the world.

As he visited the US he summoned the largest security detail in US History:

Pope’s visit will produce largest security operation in U.S. history

Not to mention the birthplace of all Abrahamic Religions was started by the Jesuits who later formed the Roman Cathalic Church in Rome/Vatican City.

So if the Pope decides to start another Ecumenical Church Council and decree to add his own verse to the bible (Like they did in previous Ecumenical council, i.e Council of Trent, Council of Chalcedon etc) you best believe this will have a global impact on all Abrahmic religions.

Let T.D Jakes and Creflo Dollar ask for tithes and donations to purchase private jets and luxuary admentites while their surrounding econmically deprived neighborhoods are being gentrified by White supremacy.
 

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Well, one small example, I'm a member of NSBE. You may know it as the National Society of Black Engineers. Every year we hold conferences, job fairs, and give scholarships which benefit thousands of college-age and professional black people throughout the country. And that's just one organization; there are hundreds of other secular groups like this that work toward the benefit of black people every day. Is that not structure and organization?

No it isn't. This nikka talking about one annual event every year as structure. People are in church a minimum of once per week and since you can't name these other organizations off the top how do you expect other people to? And none of these organizations have the power the black church has. Your science club can't measures up to a staple of the black community for hundreds of years
 

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No it isn't. This nikka talking about one annual event every year as structure. People are in church a minimum of once per week and since you can't name these other organizations off the top how do you expect other people to? And none of these organizations have the power the black church has. Your science club can't measures up to a staple of the black community for hundreds of years

One annual event? So, I'm talking to a child. Got it.
Bruh if you aren't doing anything to help the people around you that's fine. I don't think black people should be necessarily obligated to help each other (even though I don't know why you wouldn't want to).
But to say "it doesn't exist" is childish and hilarious.
 

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One annual event? So, I'm talking to a child. Got it.
Bruh if you aren't doing anything to help the people around you that's fine. I don't think black people should be necessarily obligated to help each other (even though I don't know why you wouldn't want to).
But to say "it doesn't exist" is childish and hilarious.

I'm a grown ass man AND YES I SAID your SCIENCE CLUB can't measure up to the organization and power structure of the black church. Sorry you science club hasn't existed for 400 years and generated 100 billion in tax free revenue
 

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In all fairness, Creflo Dollar created his own wealth (whether honestly or dishonestly is subjective), the Pope is just inheriting a title.
Is humility not one of the holy virtues? I'm an agnostic theist so I don't have a side. I think the Pope's title is comical but I do realize that he's a leader of billions. And I have a lot of respect for the things he does like the OP mentioned. Meanwhile you have Creflo abusing his followers by asking people to fund his million dollar jet. If you don't see the difference then I can't help you.
 

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I'm a grown ass man AND YES I SAID your SCIENCE CLUB can't measure up to the organization and power structure of the black church. Sorry you science club hasn't existed for 400 years and generated 100 billion in tax free revenue

Of course it's not on the same level of influence as organized religion.
Next you're gonna surprise me with the revelation that Jack and Jill of America isn't as big an organization as the government.

Again, if you don't wanna help, nobody is gonna make you.
If you do wanna help, though, don't pretend there's no avenue to do so.

Also, I've never actually heard a man use the phrase "grown ass man" till now :laugh:. Good one, kid.
 
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