The Price of Mass Deportation

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The Price of Mass Deportation

Trump wants to deport 11 million immigrants. Here are the likely economic consequences of that.


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A construction worker in Florida on May 2, 2006, a day after the "Great American Boycott," a one-day strike by immigrant workers nationwide. (Alan Diaz/AP)
California could lose $100 billion of its GDP, annually. Texas could lose $60 billion. New Jersey, $25 billion. All but 5 U.S. states would see at least 1 percent of their GDP disappear each year. The resulting nationwide losses would build up to about $4.7 trillion in ten years.

This gloomy hypothetical scenario isn’t the economic fallout of some Wall Street meltdown or global currency crisis, although it certainly sounds like it. It’s the potential consequence of deporting around 11.3 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S., as Republican presidential nominee Donald Trumpplans to do.

The numbers come from a new report by the Center for American Progress, in which researchers from the progressive think tank calculated the short-term and long-term economic impacts of Trump’s mass deportation policy. As far as estimates go, these are conservative ones. The report focuses only on the 7 million undocumented people who are a part of the labor force—the producers of goods and services. It doesn’t include the economic contributions of the 11 million undocumented consumers.

The researchers use a model that takes into account the differences and similarities between undocumented workers and others in the U.S. labor force, such as education, wages, and industries in which they work. The immediate impact? A 1.4 percent drop in GDP per year—and that’s purely from the loss of workers. Eventually, that average annual loss climbs to 2.6 percent, or $434.4 billion (in 2013 dollars). And in ten years, America would be $4.7 trillion poorer.

That impact compounds over time because when 7 million workers leave the labor force, the capital stock (tools and equipment firms invest in to help employees perform their jobs) have to contract. The report explains:

Because capital will adjust downward to a reduction in labor—for example, farmers will scrap or sell excess equipment per remaining worker—the long-run effects are larger and amount to two-thirds of the decline experienced during the Great Recession.

After subtracting 7 million workers, there will also be fewer incomes to tax. (Yes, these folks pay taxes.) It’s also likely that the government will spend more on programs like Social Security and Medicare, which undocumented immigrants contribute to substantially. By 2026, therefore, the federal revenues would shrink by $900 billion and debt will rise $982 billion. “Unsustainably high levels of the debt-to-GDP ratio may ultimately raise interest rates and choke off economic growth,” the report reads.

The hardest hit industries would, of course, be the ones heavily dominated by undocumented labor. Agriculture, construction, and hospitality might see decreases of 10 to 18 percent in their workforces—so, far fewer people to build and staff Trump’s hotels. But the big industries, like financial services, manufacturing, and wholesale and retail, would lose the largest amounts in actual dollars: upwards of $50 billion.

CAP has designed a nifty interactive to show how these losses play out state-by-state. Find out how much your state or industry will lose below:

But wait: Wouldn’t the 7.8 million unemployed native-born workers in the U.S. take up all those vacancies left behind?

This is indeed the scenario trumpeted by right-wing media platforms. The CAP report doesn’t explore this possibility in any detail, but it does note that “current unemployment rates are low in most industries” and that most undocumented immigrants are now doing jobs that offer lower pay. So, the incentives for native-born workers to either work longer hours or take up positions undocumented workers left behind are likely “small and short-lived,” the report reads.

But let’s look closer. In theory, it’s entirely possible that some unemployed Americans might take up the now-open jobs of the deported workers. However, a clean swap of 7 million undocumented immigrant workers with 7 million native-born-but-currently-unemployed ones isn’t really how the labor force works. Most important: The number of jobs isn’t fixed. That false assumption—economists call it the “lump of labor fallacy”—is necessary to make the claim that immigrants are displacing American workers, and that those jobs will fall right back in the laps of Real Americans if those immigrants are forced to leave.

If anything, evidence suggests that immigrants actually increase employmentamong native-born workers. Why? For one, they’re consumers, and they generate demand for goods and services that native-born workers can provide. Second, they start businesses. Third, they do different types of low-wage jobsthan U.S. workers—even within the same industries. In a restaurant, for example, an undocumented immigrant is more likely to take on kitchen jobs that don’t require English proficiency, rather than front-of-the-house ones. With only a few exceptions, economists are largely in agreement about the overallpositive effects of immigration. Even undocumented ones can be a complement—not a detriment—to U.S. workers. And the effects of mass deportation appear to be equally unambiguous.


The U.S. Could Lose $4.7 Trillion if Trump Deports Every Undocumented Worker
 

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But wait: Wouldn’t the 7.8 million unemployed native-born workers in the U.S. take up all those vacancies left behind?

This is indeed the scenario trumpeted by right-wing media platforms. The CAP report doesn’t explore this possibility in any detail
:childplease:fukkin report assumes every illegal leaves and theres zero citizens to take their place :laff:

whereas the DEMAND for this work would fill the jobs, employers would begrudgingly pay citizens more, prices might go up a little but once again demand wouldnt allow them to rise that much because people just wouldnt buy the goods or services

of all the liberal bullshyt :camby:
 

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SO i'm 100% against deportation but this article doesn't really take an all encompassing look at the issue and really glosses over some big variables, because there are a shyt ton. The report doesn't really adjust for a decrease in demand of services, I mean 11 million people NOT buying shyt means a drop in demand, which means there's a reduce requirement for workers to meet a demand that isn't there. Assuming the "anchor" babies don't stay by themselves we'd see a reduction in class sizes...though I'd argue the cost would not go down, just the teacher to student ratio in some areas.

Ultimately if one was to be able to truly calculate ALL the variables, my bet is that the effect is negligible...from a Pure #'s perspective.
 

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:childplease:fukkin report assumes every illegal leaves and theres zero citizens to take their place :laff:
Exactly what I came in to say

Labor participation rate keeps dropping.... a lot of able bodied and minded folks are sitting out of the labor market. Illegals leaving would do a few good things for Americans. One it would force businesses and consums to eat the legal cost of labor for the goods and services illegals provide. Two, that is 11 million less people the US has to support- taxes? Lol.... illegals and Central American immigrants are more likely than not to require govt assistance, and despite their illegal status states like California are all too eager to give them that aid and more. And finally it would bring some logic into our immigration system. If people don't like immigration laws, get the laws chnged.... don't undermine our whole system of rule of law by simply not enforcing laws you don't agree with.

Look I feel for the folks suffering in the Central American genocide the same way I feel for folks living under Assad & ISIS terror. And I think America should continue to be the land of opportunity. But we have to do things the right and legal way. Compassion and sympathy are no reason to bypass immigration law 11 million fukking times.
 

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There's also a human cost of deportation, but because they don't look like you its all good.
Man would you get all the way the fukk out of here with this bullshyt. Do you think immigration laws exist for no reason? We need to have some kind of control and say on who can and can't come into the country.
 

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Man would you get all the way the fukk out of here with this bullshyt. Do you think immigration laws exist for no reason? We need to have some kind of control and say on who can and can't come into the country.

Strawman. Mass deportations are completely different than just having some sort of immigration system. They're not mutually exclusive. But nice try :mjlol:
 

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Strawman. Mass deportations are completely different than just having some sort of immigration system. They're not mutually exclusive. But nice try :mjlol:
First of all I don't think "mutually exclusive" means what you think it does. Secondly and more importantly, how is not deporting people who come into the country illegally any different than having no control over who can come into the country? Basically what you're saying is if someone can get into the US they can stay, because "deportation is wrong". Like I said miss me with this feel good bullshyt. I feel for people looking for opportunity and security but immigration laws and borders exist for a reason. The only mistake we made was in waiting too long.
 

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First of all I don't think "mutually exclusive" means what you think it does. Secondly and more importantly, how is not deporting people who come into the country illegally any different than having no control over who can come into the country? Basically what you're saying is if someone can get into the US they can stay, because "deportation is wrong". Like I said miss me with this feel good bullshyt. I feel for people looking for opportunity and security but immigration laws and borders exist for a reason. The only mistake we made was in waiting too long.

I didn't say deportation generally is wrong, I said mass deportation as proposed by Trump is. The human and economic costs are too high, and it's unworkable anyway. But keep parroting those Cac supremacist talking points :mjpls:
 

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Exactly what I came in to say

Labor participation rate keeps dropping.... a lot of able bodied and minded folks are sitting out of the labor market. Illegals leaving would do a few good things for Americans. One it would force businesses and consums to eat the legal cost of labor for the goods and services illegals provide. Two, that is 11 million less people the US has to support- taxes? Lol.... illegals and Central American immigrants are more likely than not to require govt assistance, and despite their illegal status states like California are all too eager to give them that aid and more. And finally it would bring some logic into our immigration system. If people don't like immigration laws, get the laws chnged.... don't undermine our whole system of rule of law by simply not enforcing laws you don't agree with.

Look I feel for the folks suffering in the Central American genocide the same way I feel for folks living under Assad & ISIS terror. And I think America should continue to be the land of opportunity. But we have to do things the right and legal way. Compassion and sympathy are no reason to bypass immigration law 11 million fukking times.
Theres so many more benefits.

Hell, even job safety would improve.
 
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