The Price of Mass Deportation

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I didn't say deportation generally is wrong, I said mass deportation as proposed by Trump is. The human and economic costs are too high, and it's unworkable anyway. But keep parroting those Cac supremacist talking points

Its only cause you can't replicate this 11 million times:

...and not have nothing bad happen. Someone's going to get fukked up...its just statistics at that point.

However, the idea should be that illegals have long since abused this country under the guise of emotional appeals.

No other country IN THE WORLD has more illegal immigrants as a percentage of their population than the United States...and thats including all the European countries with "legal refugees" (since a country has to approve them).

Everyone has a story. Some are fleeing violence. Some are fleeing bad opportunities. But it comes at a cost.

As a black man, worried about black economics, I can NEVER support this.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

There's also a human cost of deportation, but because they don't look like you its all good.

Whose fault is it that 71% of illegals are hispanic?

Frequently Requested Statistics on Immigrants and Immigration in the United States

And 3% are africans. They can't even walk over here. That just means their papers expired...meaning they exist on a database somewhere. Thats at least something you can reconcile. All the hispanic ones? They don't even exist on PAPER. They're coming in some way

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

If you're born outside some arbitrary borders, you're human scum and I don't give one fukk.

Why is it so hard for them to produce one of these?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Strawman. Mass deportations are completely different than just having some sort of immigration system. They're not mutually exclusive. But nice try

Deportations are literally a part of the immigration system.

Theres those who are approved to be here.

And those who aren't.

The US-Mexico border is the most active border in the world.

Many people do the right thing. Why give illegals a pass?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I didn't say deportation generally is wrong, I said mass deportation as proposed by Trump is. The human and economic costs are too high, and it's unworkable anyway. But keep parroting those Cac supremacist talking points

The desperation in this post You are throwing out any and every liberal/KTL trope in the book and hoping something sticks

No, deporting 11 million people all at once won't work but it can definitely be done over time.

No, the cost of deporting them is not too high; as we have demonstrated here the cost of letting them stay is demonstrably higher.

No, "human cost" doesn't mean anything. These people broke the law; unless law is now meaningless they have to face the consequences. We are not even talking about prison here; just sending them back to where they came so they can go through the immigration process legally.

No, wanting to enforce immigration law is not a "CAC supremacist talking point" you low skilled ACORN internet troll. CACs are the LEAST impacted by illegal immigration. Black people are the ones bearing the brunt of their impact on the labor market.

Step outside of your liberal bubble and really come up with a good reason why allowing illegal immigrants to stay is beneficial to the US. You can't!!!!

 

[VegasCAC]

The desperation in this post You are throwing out any and every liberal/KTL trope in the book and hoping something sticks

No, deporting 11 million people all at once won't work but it can definitely be done over time.

No, the cost of deporting them is not too high; as we have demonstrated here the cost of letting them stay is demonstrably higher.

No, "human cost" doesn't mean anything. These people broke the law; unless law is now meaningless they have to face the consequences. We are not even talking about prison here; just sending them back to where they came so they can go through the immigration process legally.

No, wanting to enforce immigration law is not a "CAC supremacist talking point" you low skilled ACORN internet troll. CACs are the LEAST impacted by illegal immigration. Black people are the ones bearing the brunt of their impact on the labor market.

Step outside of your liberal bubble and really come up with a good reason why allowing illegal immigrants to stay is beneficial to the US. You can't!!!!

No you haven't. You haven't engaged with any of the economic claims of the article, nor do you have any reply to the likely atrocities that will be committed in deporting 11 million people, no matter how long the process takes. Illegal immigrants for the most part take high-labor, low-paying jobs that black people either don't want or don't have access to.

Generally, white people are who agitate about illegal immigration you dumbfukk. They are racist, nativist shills. Illegals commit LESS crimes than the population of citizens here per capita.
Immigration and crime

As a population they contribute a fukkton in taxes through various means and are key in economic growth.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/undocumented-immigrants-pay-billions-in-taxes--study-210135662.html

We should be trying to legalize as many of them as possible

Your simplistic understanding of economics as a zero sum game is tragic. Act like it's EITHER black people or illegal immigrants, brehs. Act like you can't invest in both black and Hispanic jobs, brehs. Act like the economy wouldn't tank after mass deportations and make shyt worse for the most economically vulnerable, brehs. Pathetic. Do better you confused Trumpstain.

 

[mbewane]

I don't understand how people don't see that illegal immigrants are also consumers and workers, so removing 11 million consumers and workers obviously would have negative effects on the economy. Like all economic projections this one is obviously subject to criticism, as it should be, but once you see illegal immigrants as consumers and workers, I think the understanding of the issue changes.

What exactly is the advantage of less consumers and workers?

And also, what would be the actual cost of the deportation? Not long term, but the actual operation. You have to round up the people, probably build temporary camps or use some kind of existing infrastructure, then ship 11 million people to other countries. Planes, trains, busses, administration, medical attention (since you're gonna be deporting children, people who might have conditions, pregnant women) all of that costs lots of money. Who's paying?

How this would work in practical and logistical terms? Has a country ever conduced a mass deportation of 11 million people? Only thing I can think of is the India/Bangladesh/Pakistan splitting (we know how that went).

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

No you haven't. You haven't engaged with any of the economic claims of the article, nor do you have any reply to the likely atrocities that will be committed in deporting 11 million people, no matter how long the process takes. Illegal immigrants for the most part take high-labor, low-paying jobs that black people either don't want or don't have access to.

Generally, white people are who agitate about illegal immigration you dumbfukk. They are racist, nativist shills. Illegals commit LESS crimes than the population of citizens here per capita.
Immigration and crime

As a population they contribute a fukkton in taxes through various means and are key in economic growth.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/undocumented-immigrants-pay-billions-in-taxes--study-210135662.html

We should be trying to legalize as many of them as possible

Your simplistic understanding of economics as a zero sum game is tragic. Act like it's EITHER black people or illegal immigrants, brehs. Act like you can't invest in both black and Hispanic jobs, brehs. Act like the economy wouldn't tank after mass deportations and make shyt worse for the most economically vulnerable, brehs. Pathetic. Do better you confused Trumpstain.

This is untrue. I've made dozens of threads debunking this.



Start here.

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/illegal-immigration-hurts-the-black-community.371501/

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/npr-...-over-black-citizens-update-govt-sues.420004/



blacks are citizens, meaning they deserve legal job rights and benefits.

illegals only mostly pay sales taxes. They don't pay any of the other sorts of taxes that come with proper identification and registration. We know this. Especially in education for example.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

No you haven't. You haven't engaged with any of the economic claims of the article, nor do you have any reply to the likely atrocities that will be committed in deporting 11 million people, no matter how long the process takes. Illegal immigrants for the most part take high-labor, low-paying jobs that black people either don't want or don't have access to.

This, and the whole premise of this editorial, is either an intentional lie or just flat out wrong. Illegal immigration and amnesty hit black males the hardest:

Expert: Amnesty, illegal immigration, hits black wages hardest

So no I haven't engaged with any of the editorial's points because the premise they are based on is false. It would be a waste of time.

Generally, white people are who agitate about illegal immigration you dumbfukk. They are racist, nativist shills. Illegals commit LESS crimes than the population of citizens here per capita.
Immigration and crime

Just because racist CACs hijack a cause doesn't make it illegitimate. Plus in any case who said anything about crime? I sure didn't. And proposing that we open our borders to reduce crime is beyond idiotic.

As a population they contribute a fukkton in taxes through various means and are key in economic growth.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/undocumented-immigrants-pay-billions-in-taxes--study-210135662.html

We should be trying to legalize as many of them as possible

You are so simple :scumbag:

Average American pays about $10K in taxes from federal down to sales tax. Your link indicates illegals pay about 1/10th of that. So no, they don't contribute. They are paying 1/10th their fair share to get much of the same benefits of everyone else.

Your simplistic understanding of economics as a zero sum game is tragic. Act like it's EITHER black people or illegal immigrants, brehs. Act like you can't invest in both black and Hispanic jobs, brehs. Act like the economy wouldn't tank after mass deportations and make shyt worse for the most economically vulnerable, brehs. Pathetic. Do better you confused Trumpstain.

Jobs are definitely a finite quantity. It's no coincidence that the labor participation rate has dropped along with the influx of illegal immigrants. And again you can refer to the link I posted above demonstrating the clear link between illegal immigration and the decline in employment of black men. The only person trying to make this about these people being Mexicans is you, because you know damn well you don't have a leg to stand on objectively on this matter. There is zero benefit to any American citizen outside of business owners willing to break immigration laws for illegal immigrants to be in and work in the US, period. Calling anyone who says this a Trumpian racist just exposes how weak and facile your stance is.... you shouldn't need to attack the credibility of people you disagree with to demonstrate how legitmate your POV is :yadontsay: