The raid was anything but a success

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bash trump all you want but he has a higher approval rating with the military than obama does... and this incident will only send trump's approval with the military higher.... this is the shyt they live for....

The dems need to invite the fallen seal soldiers mother to the state of the union...

Let that woman tell the country how she feels about the orangutan in chief treating her son like he's a fukking GI Joe toy...

If they have a spine they will play this like the rethugs did Benghazi...
i doubt the mothers will blame trump for the death of their children.... i just can't see it...
 

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bash trump all you want but he has a higher approval rating with the military than obama does... and this incident will only send trump's approval with the military higher.... this is the shyt they live for....


i doubt the mothers will blame trump for the death of their children.... i just can't see it...
Military officials love him because he says he is going to increase spending...

As far as this soldiers mother and wife are concerned...The details of this failed operation are an absolute mess...I highly doubt a mother would like the hear her son died because the president was itching to use his new "toys" and authorized an ilavised mission destined for failure...

Obviously the white house is going to feed her a bullshyt story of freedom fighting...It's important that somebody give that woman the REAL story about what lead to her sons death...This was a death that could of been 100% avoided...
 
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Military officials love him because he says he is going to increase spending...

As far as this soldiers mother and wife are concerned...The details of this failed operation are an absolute mess...I highly doubt a mother would like the hear her son died because the president was itching to use his new "toys" and authorized an ilavised mission destined for failure...
trump supporters (and people on the right in general) are not known for their rationality.... they'll just blame the seal team deaths on obama for not taking action sooner... many on the right blame 9/11 on clinton... one side isn't playing with a full deck....
 

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trump supporters (and people on the right in general) are not known for their rationality.... they'll just blame the seal team deaths on obama for not taking action sooner... many on the right blame 9/11 on clinton... one side isn't playing with a full deck....
I feel you but how do you know his family are Trump supporters?

How do you know how they will react to hearing your son's death was the result of an operation being authorized "without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations"?

My point here is the dems should not sit back on this...Talk to this family and give them the FACTS...Tell them why their son and husband was killed...If they choose not to care and prefer the "alternative facts" so be it...If you don't try to talk to these people you will never know...
 

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I feel you but how do you know his family are Trump supporters?

How do you know how they will react to hearing your son's death was the result of an operation being authorized "without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations"?

My point here is the dems should not sit back on this...Talk to this family and give them the FACTS...Tell them why their son and husband was killed...If they choose not to care and prefer the "alternative facts" so be it...If you don't try to talk to these people you will never know...
i hear you.... i'm just cynical... right now i feel like trump should be sporting a 10% approval rating, yet he's still above 30%... but i don't disagree with your strategy....
 

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so that's why they were trying to leak that bullshyt angle about how this mission was in planning from obama's time and trump just happened to be president when it went down. like anyone with sense would fall for that shyt. you're the president, shyt doesn't just go down because it was being planned for a while, you get to look at the facts and decide if it should be executed. maybe that was the reason obama never went through with it because it looked sketchy to him. but the planners just had to tell you that obama was dithering and since obama never did anything right you just have to do the opposite and go in half-cocked and all will be right.
 
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so that's why they were trying to leak that bullshyt angle about how this mission was in planning from obama's time and trump just happened to be president when it went down. like anyone with sense would fall for that shyt, you're the president, shyt doesn't just go down because it was being planned for a while, you get to look at the facts and decided if it should be executed. maybe that was the reason obama never went through with it because it looked sketchy to him. but the planners just had to tell you that obama was dithering and since obama never did anything right you just have to do the opposite and go in half-cocked and all will be right.
Repped :wow:
 

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He's the commander in chief.
Doesn't matter who the commander in chief is, they aren't going to know the specifics of an action, they are just there as a check. That said he approved it so he is rightfully ultimately responsible, but to simply blame it on him, rather than command structure under him that allowed it to be proposed and that had so little intelligence that they inserted operatives into the middle of a compound is ridiculous.

like i said just cause for the whole special operations command structure to be removed entirely.
 

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Is that legal?

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Doesn't matter who the commander in chief is, they aren't going to know the specifics of an action, they are just there as a check. That said he approved it so he is rightfully ultimately responsible, but to simply blame it on him, rather than command structure under him that allowed it to be proposed and that had so little intelligence that they inserted operatives into the middle of a compound is ridiculous.

like i said just cause for the whole special operations command structure to be removed entirely.
Obama rejected the same raid :ufdup:
 
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