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Where do you get that from?
The REAL Faces of Black Conservatism
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I’ve always said that if Professor Black Truth ever emerged from the shadows, upped his production value, he would own the space. Umar, Tariq, TBA would all kiss the ring.
The only reason PBT loses points with me is because for some reason he feels the need to kiss Tariq’s ass. I listen to PBT regularly but he’ll always be
status because of that and the fact he hides himself.
I like FD Signifier. A lot of The Coli dismisses dude because he’s not the typical breh… He’s down with LGBTQ, he’s an anti capitalist and devout socialist. Brehs that don’t mess with him because of that will never give his other ideas a chance. It is what it is.
The only reason PBT loses points with me is because for some reason he feels the need to kiss Tariq’s ass. I listen to PBT regularly but he’ll always be
status because of that and the fact he hides himself.I like FD Signifier. A lot of The Coli dismisses dude because he’s not the typical breh… He’s down with LGBTQ, he’s an anti capitalist and devout socialist. Brehs that don’t mess with him because of that will never give his other ideas a chance. It is what it is.
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Just watched and thought his analysis was pretty good. His section about who considered to be "distractions" was actually really interesting.
All that shyt they talk sound good but it's all fairy tales in the context of the USA.
They aren't. about bloody revolution hence more stupid ass YouTube videos.
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man, y'all living in some fantasy world. FD is spitting nearly the same stuff the activists and revolutionaries, that the faux militants pretend to be, were spitting.
and in 2023 look at where we are nikka
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I really don't get how y'all can watch these videos and consider this man a c00n or is catering to whites
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and in 2023 look at where we are nikka
because it's been infiltrated by c00ns that believe white supremacists lies. Funny thing about that is that some of this faux militants are repeating the same lies and falsehoods
Because they ain’t really revolutionary. Claiming militant with banking jobs in the suburbs. They still want everything capitalism has to offer. I make 6 figure so I can speak from first hand experience, it ain’t shyt.
Politically, I’ll take Dead Prez when they were setting fire to money on stage to Killer Mike and “his” bank.
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I was hoping that he would actually go into who are actual Black conservatives. Instead he's just complaining about who gets more facetime in the media.
A lot of us have done the activism route, elected state/local officials, non profit, and federal route. I know I have.
Normal People often dealer default to nihilism and apathy.
Stay in these spaces long enough and you'll see it.
Gave Sig a chance back in the day, but most of his arguments are College Socialist/White Identified.
Lemme repeat that for the dummies - He's very white Identified. He only blew up off that Bo Burnham video, which was making peace with White Liberals/Allies. He might not look like it. He slips in negro and the n-word all the time, but at his very core, he's about Marx, not Malcolm.
Some quick paraphrases from the video
@10:22 - In talking about Youtube pieces like this, his boy says "No Answer comes from these spaces"
Ol boy then goes on to say that it's on the local groups that the real work gets done.
FEATURE THE DAMN LOCAL GROUPS THEN. Even Al Qaeda had a newsletter with news you can use (or make a fuse with).
This whole thing is them being poverty pimps, Black people explainers to white people. They are the DSA/AOC/Bernie Bros version, not the Kamala Harris/Obama version
@1:09 - Only way a black man gets to the top is God Given and unearned talents, or on the backs of black peers.
Jesus Christ...and I'm not even Christian.
@1:15 - Stop buying J's and Acrylic Nails and get respect.
Basic financial literacy. Save money, Invest Money, live below your means, deny gratifying yourself now.
@1:16 - Black people can't buy stock, buy land - You can start buying stock with as little as a penny. How these college educated cats don't have basic financial literacy.
The gall to include Malcolm X as the mouth piece is really what's killing me.
The speeches he cites, the clips he using, were mostly when Malcolm was DEEP in the NOI.
"House Negro, Field Negro" speech is 1963 Malcolm, that "Old time Religion that Ma and Pa used to talk about"
Low key, that's the Malcolm X that average every day black people like, the one that gave hell to blue eyed devils.
Malcolm X that he's quoting is more Farrakhan than Farrakhan.
Hajj Malcolm is 1964, that's when softened up on white people, stopped hating the Semites, etc.
All them cats that like to think that Martin and Malcolm would have worked together, the kum-buy-yah type Black people...
A lot of these Soc-Liberal-Prog Blacks don't want to acknowledge that Black people can and will be racist.
You see it right here on the Coli everyday, as well as over at LSA. (Lot of them ladies are much worse on the non-melanated than y'all are)
And those "bad elements" in our community can't be brushed aside by "the evils of capitalism".
Nor can the anti-Black racism from other communities be attributed to capitalism.
Can't resolve some of the thought processes here with "more information". Lotta of Y'all not trying to learn nothing.
And that's one of the big reasons these cats fail. They don't want to talk about human nature.
There's a reason socialism failed in Europe, in Latin America, in Africa, and yes in China. (China is state/authoritarian capitalism, not socialism, not communism).
That doesn't excuse the fact that capitalist systems blow up every 10 years or so, or that our economies are based on infinite growth. (but to even start to talk about, these folks would need economics literacy, when they don't even have personal finance down)
To get more into the video
Fiq does not have a coherent understanding of Conservatism, "Black Conservatives", and Black Conservatives.
I've said this before, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, Herman Cain - Black Republicans are not the Black Conservatives that he should be focused on.
Anybody Black knows those people are tools of the devil. They hold no sway in the Black Community.
That's like saying Obsidian and Angry Man speak for the average brother. They don't.
And if we wanna talk about Black Republicans, Colin Powell did not do all this buck dancing like Candace Owens. (He did help cover up some Vietnam Massacres, but lol, y'all don't give AF about geopolitics, so I'll just move on). Not every Black Republican is a MAGA Trumper or a shameful white bootlicker, dancing at the temple of Caucasity.
You can be Black and be against abortion.
You can be Black and be against illegal immigration. (some of y'all are against immigration period, don't even want to leave your city)
You can be Black and want these boys to stop showing they ass and pull up they pants,
You can be Black and want these girls to stop showing they ass, and pull them skirts down to the knees.
You can be Black and not want to hear LGBT people compare their struggles to the Civil Rights.
You can be Black and not really rock with Jewish people (See James Baldwin)
You can be Black and want to keep guns in your house and on your person.
You can be Black and want to see wife beaters, drug dealers, thieves, rapists, and murderers go to jail and serve LONG sentences.
But you don't need to be a Republican, or down with Trump, or an "enemy" of Black people to do so.
And if you go to Africa or the Caribbean, do you think they want any of this stuff either? No, they don't
Other countries? El Salvador just rounded up 40,000 of their own men to stop killing in the street. Human Rights vs Human Life?
Farrakhan Dominates Black Political Thought?
Is he INSANE? This is a talking point from 30 years ago. Regular rank and file black people are not reading The Final Call or turning into NOI webcasts.
The fact that you can find some rappers bigging him up in 2023 is reaching.
If we wanna reach far back to them PE/Brand Nubian/Rakim days, Kwame Ture was heavily featured on BDP's Edutainment album. (The one with Love's Gonna Getcha)
So he already loses credibility here.
And notice how he only sideway mentions Fred Hampton, cause to go into the Panthers would open up a whole lot of uncomfortableness for his feminist fans.
Bill Cosby and Double Agents
The Pound Cake Speech was in 2003. We been off that.
Why bring it up?
Because he needs things for his argument, but he can't find the right type of Black Conservative to lambast, since he already shot down the easy targets.
Jay Z and Black Capitalists
Jay Z was a drug dealer, not some captain of industry.
You notice he ain't mention Robert M. Smith, or any of the actual Black business owners that made their money outside of entertainment/sports/music.
I guess Alex Karp (Palantir) ain't black enough for Sig. (Truthfully, he prolly ain't black enough for The Coli, but a lot of y'all got issues)
Nobody wanna talk about David Steward
en.wikipedia.org
These cats have legit businesses, they employ Black people in droves.
In Summary
Fig as usual
SMH.
He's the worst kind of fraud, the worst kind of grifter, imo.
Even worse than Tariq and Umar. Cause you can tell them boys are selling BS.
FD and all the rest of the crew - they're cloaked in authority.
They will cite Audre Lorde 'For the master's tools will never dismantle the master's house.'
And then turn around and use JSTOR and other scholarly articles.
There are plenty of Harvard and Yale people doing research and making anti-Black policy....
And for you folks attacking the idea of black people starting businesses, employing black people, and serving black people, what's the goal that can't be reached by this?
Cause if the only goal if Fiq n'nem is to get white people to acknowledge the GI Bill, Red Lining, Intersectionality, and 400 years of oppression has given them a leg up, at the expense of Black people - I guarantee you still won't be MADE financially whole when you get that apology.
For you reparations and you local activist people, THEY NOT PAYING UP. THEY NOT GIVING UP POWER.
What a lot of these "Black" Socialists never seem to say out loud is that it's Socialism first, Black Second.
What a lot of regular Black people focus on is Black First, everything/anyone else Second.
WIA
Lemme repeat that for the dummies - He's very white Identified. He only blew up off that Bo Burnham video, which was making peace with White Liberals/Allies. He might not look like it. He slips in negro and the n-word all the time, but at his very core, he's about Marx, not Malcolm.
Some quick paraphrases from the video
@10:22 - In talking about Youtube pieces like this, his boy says "No Answer comes from these spaces"
Ol boy then goes on to say that it's on the local groups that the real work gets done.
FEATURE THE DAMN LOCAL GROUPS THEN. Even Al Qaeda had a newsletter with news you can use (or make a fuse with).
This whole thing is them being poverty pimps, Black people explainers to white people. They are the DSA/AOC/Bernie Bros version, not the Kamala Harris/Obama version
@1:09 - Only way a black man gets to the top is God Given and unearned talents, or on the backs of black peers.
Jesus Christ...and I'm not even Christian.
@1:15 - Stop buying J's and Acrylic Nails and get respect.
Basic financial literacy. Save money, Invest Money, live below your means, deny gratifying yourself now.
@1:16 - Black people can't buy stock, buy land - You can start buying stock with as little as a penny. How these college educated cats don't have basic financial literacy.
The gall to include Malcolm X as the mouth piece is really what's killing me.
The speeches he cites, the clips he using, were mostly when Malcolm was DEEP in the NOI.
"House Negro, Field Negro" speech is 1963 Malcolm, that "Old time Religion that Ma and Pa used to talk about"
Low key, that's the Malcolm X that average every day black people like, the one that gave hell to blue eyed devils.
Malcolm X that he's quoting is more Farrakhan than Farrakhan.
Hajj Malcolm is 1964, that's when softened up on white people, stopped hating the Semites, etc.
All them cats that like to think that Martin and Malcolm would have worked together, the kum-buy-yah type Black people...
A lot of these Soc-Liberal-Prog Blacks don't want to acknowledge that Black people can and will be racist.
- Racist to whites
- Racist to Jews
- Racist to Latinos
- Racist to Asians
You see it right here on the Coli everyday, as well as over at LSA. (Lot of them ladies are much worse on the non-melanated than y'all are)
And those "bad elements" in our community can't be brushed aside by "the evils of capitalism".
Nor can the anti-Black racism from other communities be attributed to capitalism.
Can't resolve some of the thought processes here with "more information". Lotta of Y'all not trying to learn nothing.
And that's one of the big reasons these cats fail. They don't want to talk about human nature.
There's a reason socialism failed in Europe, in Latin America, in Africa, and yes in China. (China is state/authoritarian capitalism, not socialism, not communism).
That doesn't excuse the fact that capitalist systems blow up every 10 years or so, or that our economies are based on infinite growth. (but to even start to talk about, these folks would need economics literacy, when they don't even have personal finance down)
To get more into the video
Fiq does not have a coherent understanding of Conservatism, "Black Conservatives", and Black Conservatives.
I've said this before, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, Herman Cain - Black Republicans are not the Black Conservatives that he should be focused on.
Anybody Black knows those people are tools of the devil. They hold no sway in the Black Community.
That's like saying Obsidian and Angry Man speak for the average brother. They don't.
And if we wanna talk about Black Republicans, Colin Powell did not do all this buck dancing like Candace Owens. (He did help cover up some Vietnam Massacres, but lol, y'all don't give AF about geopolitics, so I'll just move on). Not every Black Republican is a MAGA Trumper or a shameful white bootlicker, dancing at the temple of Caucasity.
You can be Black and be against abortion.
You can be Black and be against illegal immigration. (some of y'all are against immigration period, don't even want to leave your city)
You can be Black and want these boys to stop showing they ass and pull up they pants,
You can be Black and want these girls to stop showing they ass, and pull them skirts down to the knees.
You can be Black and not want to hear LGBT people compare their struggles to the Civil Rights.
You can be Black and not really rock with Jewish people (See James Baldwin)
You can be Black and want to keep guns in your house and on your person.
You can be Black and want to see wife beaters, drug dealers, thieves, rapists, and murderers go to jail and serve LONG sentences.
But you don't need to be a Republican, or down with Trump, or an "enemy" of Black people to do so.
And if you go to Africa or the Caribbean, do you think they want any of this stuff either? No, they don't
Other countries? El Salvador just rounded up 40,000 of their own men to stop killing in the street. Human Rights vs Human Life?
Farrakhan Dominates Black Political Thought?
Is he INSANE? This is a talking point from 30 years ago. Regular rank and file black people are not reading The Final Call or turning into NOI webcasts.
The fact that you can find some rappers bigging him up in 2023 is reaching.
If we wanna reach far back to them PE/Brand Nubian/Rakim days, Kwame Ture was heavily featured on BDP's Edutainment album. (The one with Love's Gonna Getcha)
So he already loses credibility here.
And notice how he only sideway mentions Fred Hampton, cause to go into the Panthers would open up a whole lot of uncomfortableness for his feminist fans.
Bill Cosby and Double Agents
The Pound Cake Speech was in 2003. We been off that.
Why bring it up?
Because he needs things for his argument, but he can't find the right type of Black Conservative to lambast, since he already shot down the easy targets.
Jay Z and Black Capitalists
Jay Z was a drug dealer, not some captain of industry.
You notice he ain't mention Robert M. Smith, or any of the actual Black business owners that made their money outside of entertainment/sports/music.
I guess Alex Karp (Palantir) ain't black enough for Sig. (Truthfully, he prolly ain't black enough for The Coli, but a lot of y'all got issues)
Nobody wanna talk about David Steward
David Steward - Wikipedia
These cats have legit businesses, they employ Black people in droves.
In Summary
Fig as usual
- Appeals to his base of "new blacks" and "Bernie Bro/NPR" whites
- Brings up old stuff to create strawmen Black conservatives
- Ignores actual black achievement
- Offers no solution, other than to read up and contact your local activist group
SMH.
He's the worst kind of fraud, the worst kind of grifter, imo.
Even worse than Tariq and Umar. Cause you can tell them boys are selling BS.
FD and all the rest of the crew - they're cloaked in authority.
They will cite Audre Lorde 'For the master's tools will never dismantle the master's house.'
And then turn around and use JSTOR and other scholarly articles.
There are plenty of Harvard and Yale people doing research and making anti-Black policy....
And for you folks attacking the idea of black people starting businesses, employing black people, and serving black people, what's the goal that can't be reached by this?
- Liberation? (what the hell is liberation?)
- Close the wealth gap? (can we close the income gap first?)
- Reparations?
Cause if the only goal if Fiq n'nem is to get white people to acknowledge the GI Bill, Red Lining, Intersectionality, and 400 years of oppression has given them a leg up, at the expense of Black people - I guarantee you still won't be MADE financially whole when you get that apology.
For you reparations and you local activist people, THEY NOT PAYING UP. THEY NOT GIVING UP POWER.
What a lot of these "Black" Socialists never seem to say out loud is that it's Socialism first, Black Second.
What a lot of regular Black people focus on is Black First, everything/anyone else Second.
WIA
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It's by design to beat the hope out of you. Few people are resilient enough to keep pressing on when it looks like you are losing.