The real reason gangsta rap died [IMPORTANT POST]

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The common story everyone loves to tell is that Kanye basically made everyone get bored with gangsta rap after he came out with his Jay-Z squared, super-bragadoccio style, plus the chipmunk soul movement. Everyone was fukking with Ye's sentimental type shyt and 50 Cent and The Game were the last two great gangsta rappers to come out before the end.

Lets go back in time. G-Unit is on top of the world, 50 came with a 2nd great album, Candy Shop absolutely fukking everywhere that year. And he's the only rapper in the world who is more popular in the moment than the young cocky roc-a-fella prodigy Kanye.

So wtf happened when they both decided to compete for sales the same day with their albums Curtis and Graduation, and Kanye absolutely blew him out with US sales? It must've just been the changing climate, right? People stopped caring about being "hard", that barely mattered anymore, it was just a nice bonus if you were. People cared more about dope altogether tracks. Songs, melodies, hooks. In a funny way, 50 really was the best rapper to help make this transition because we all know what party bangers he made. In a lot of ways on some tracks he was more club rap without much gangsta rap at all.

So what made this climate shift? Why did people stop caring about being hard? What killed gangsta rap? Can we credit it to Kanye? Nah... someone else is responsible.

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4 months before Curtis and Graduation are released, Atlanta rapper Soulja Boy releases Crank Dat, which becomes what is probably the biggest and most popular hip hop song of the entire decade, if not top 3. Soulja perfected the formula of ATL dance music in ways that his crunk predecessors couldn't even imagine. With just one song, he changed the entire climate of the rap game, and he should be credited as THE one who started Atlanta's 10 year reign as the most popular hip hop city in the world.

Think about it, why wasn't anyone really influenced by Kanye after Graduation came out? Most of the chipmunk soul songs from other artists came out 2003-2006 before Grad came out, and after it dropped the only new rapper at the time who sounded anything like it was Big Sean (but he was a ghostwriter for Grad so does this even count?). Yes, Kanye beat 50 in that competition, and people say he killed gangsta rap. BUT! It was really a completely separate movement, the ringtone rap era, that not only knocked NYC out of any contention for the throne, but made Kanye's sound seem irrelevant and boring as well.

Who knows what would happen if Ye's life didn't take that downfall after Grad, and he never released 808s but a 4th album of that sound? Would he have fallen off just like 50? I think he might've. Atlanta was just too strong, so strong that the WHOLE GAME needed to change up their styles again to something new.

Thank god for fukking Soulja Boy man...

 

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Dipset was not really gangsta rap, they were more offshoots of the Bad Boy/Jay-Z braggadocious and materialistic wave of rappers, just like Kanye
Killah cam wasn't gangsta rap? All dips rapped about was drugs, bytches, killing people. Real gangsta rap died on 96 anyway. You tellin me 50 was gangsta but Cam wasnt?
 

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Instead of giving Soulja boy credit why not give the entire start of the dance craze beginning of the ring tone era credit.

You nikkas know white tee, I think they like, me, don't forget d4l laffy taffy
was number 1 in America in 2005. I know we were blasting bobble head in my hood. Crank that came out in 07. It begun way before him he was the one the one that young kids could relate to which is why it took off the way it did. Mims hit number 1 before it did also. Ring tone rap had already taken over. shyt even fat joe make it rain was 13 in america.
 

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soulja boy is everything hip-hop rap

- its whole record 100 songs (Gucci & Pac to blame)

- be my own boss (although I am not business savvy or talented at all outside of my 1 hit)

- singles sell, not the album so I'll get a hit maker for the single and use my homeboys for the album; fooling everyone who purchases it.

- you gotta force people to like your music mentality

^^^ all that combined dwindled the trust in hip-hop
 

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gangsta rap died when u fakkits decided to side with kanye kardashian
 

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Interesting thread OP. I actually agree with you. Soulja really did change the game.

Also, all these internet rappers. Keef didn't birth em, Lil B didn't birth em. Soulja did.
He made it cool to be non-lyrical as well, without being dance oriented (besides Crank Dat).


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It all goes in cycles my friend, it's the same as fashion.



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This nikka Fif rubbing me off the wrong way...

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