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several podcasts I listen to have said that they're hearing from real estate agents everywhere, especially in expensive cities like NYC that brokers aren't moving units like they used to...its a buyers market...
@88m3 is the man for this. He posts articles on the NYC gentrification thread about this. Condos and apartments are not selling as they used. What we have here is a glut of expensive condos in Manhattan, Brooklyn and a lesser extent in Queens. You have landlords so desperate they are overlooking tenants credit scores and shyt. The building boom from the Bloomberg era has not panned out any benefits. I see it all the time in Brooklyn. You see these high rise condos built which was supposed to house 600 people only to have 40 people living in them. The bubble is bursting. The developers made they money from the building boom from the Bloomberg era. shyt is about to get ugly.
 

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several podcasts I listen to have said that they're hearing from real estate agents everywhere, especially in expensive cities like NYC that brokers aren't moving units like they used to...its a buyers market...
How exactly is it a buyers market if the general prices of homes in inflated past a reasonable point? Anyone buying a home now is likely getting into debt to buy a house that is overvalued... Like those simps that bought BTC at 19k last year, maybe a bit of a reach but I hope that illustrate the point. There are 2 bdrm1bath shared wall apts going for upwards of 250k in the ATL market. It's wacked
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This is a fairly good indicator for the housing market, however this graph doesn't take into account the past 2 months. As you can see, the decline in spending as it relates to home goods precedes the real recession. Personally I think we're in the months leading up to the slow down, or quite possible the slow down has already begun and will continue to gather steam going into 2019. Will be interesting to see where shyt goes
 

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several podcasts I listen to have said that they're hearing from real estate agents everywhere, especially in expensive cities like NYC that brokers aren't moving units like they used to...its a buyers market...
Drop the shows you listen to.
 
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@88m3 is the man for this. He posts articles on the NYC gentrification thread about this. Condos and apartments are not selling as they used. What we have here is a glut of expensive condos in Manhattan, Brooklyn and a lesser extent in Queens. You have landlords so desperate they are overlooking tenants credit scores and shyt. The building boom from the Bloomberg era has not panned out any benefits. I see it all the time in Brooklyn. You see these high rise condos built which was supposed to house 600 people only to have 40 people living in them. The bubble is bursting. The developers made they money from the building boom from the Bloomberg era. shyt is about to get ugly.
I've been curious about this shyt in LA as well. There's an abundance of $3-4k studio / 1br apartments that propped up in the last 2-5 yeara but who the heck has money for that. They're literally everywhere now.


Only so many people make 75K+ in LA to afford that.


The funny thing ia you can literally see the socioeconomic clash between the have and have nots in real time.

Those familiar with LA. Think about the large homeless population in weho around santa monica and la brea. Then look at the new condos that propped up and are continually building.
 

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Stock buybacks used to be illegal and classified as insider trading btw:francis:


Would that be because it artificially inflates Revenue/Profit per share?
Like Company A isn't going to meet their quarterly projections >proceeds to buy back X amount of shares. Thereby decreasing the total # of shares that their Quarterly numbers are divided by, and increasing profits per share on paper?


It's like juelzing on and on instead of just saying "We fukked up and didn't meet quarterly projections" and they have been doing this as a matter of habit for years and years??
 

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I've been curious about this shyt in LA as well. There's an abundance of $3-4k studio / 1br apartments that propped up in the last 2-5 yeara but who the heck has money for that. They're literally everywhere now.


Only so many people make 75K+ in LA to afford that.


The funny thing ia you can literally see the socioeconomic clash between the have and have nots in real time.

Those familiar with LA. Think about the large homeless population in weho around santa monica and la brea. Then look at the new condos that propped up and are continually building.


I remember there being an article on here about how many of the expensive high rise buildings are just money laundering pits.

They aren't created with the intention of ever being at capacity, but when this happens all of the other housing in the area is affected by the price increases.


Not the same article, but here's one echoing a similar sentiment:

Boston's Luxury Towers: A Shell Game For the Global Elite? A New Study Makes The Case
 

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Would that be because it artificially inflates Revenue/Profit per share?
Like Company A isn't going to meet their quarterly projections >proceeds to buy back X amount of shares. Thereby decreasing the total # of shares that their Quarterly numbers are divided by, and increasing profits per share on paper?


It's like juelzing on and on instead of just saying "We fukked up and didn't meet quarterly projections" and they have been doing this as a matter of habit for years and years??


Yes that definitely is one application of it, but it doesn't even have to go that deep.

They do it because they often pay executives in stock and when they buy back they are increasing the share value and in turn their own wealth.


The Ugly Truth Behind Stock Buybacks
 

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Good quote that sums the article up nicely.
The study looks at 1,805 units with an average price of $3 million, and finds a large number of them are held under LLCs, trusts and shell corporations that obscure the real owners.

As many as two-thirds of the condos dissected in the report are not associated with residential tax exemption status. That's evidence, Collins says, that they're being used either as secondary residences, or for what he calls “wealth storage,” i.e. pure investment vehicles that provide no actual housing for city residents.

Combine the undisclosed buyers with cash purchases, and Collins says that ought to raise eyebrows.

"We spot-checked some of those buildings and found there were large numbers of cash purchases by shell corporations, which is sort of a red flag for possible use of illicit funds," Collins said. "They have very high percentage of non-resident ownership, they have a very high percentage of shell corporations.



City Councilor Lydia Edwards:
“Boston is being consumed by people who are not here," Edwards said. "That’s I think where there’s a disconnect, where we are building really more pieces of stock then we are actually housing.

Edwards says instead of putting people’s housing at the center of the agenda for the New Boston, that kind of housing is being treated as second class to the luxury boom.

Goes on to mention that Treasury Dept investigations are generally zero'd in on Miami and NYC so the money flows to the path of least resistance, in this case Boston. Interesting article, would rep ya if I could :beli:
 

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I've been curious about this shyt in LA as well. There's an abundance of $3-4k studio / 1br apartments that propped up in the last 2-5 yeara but who the heck has money for that. They're literally everywhere now.


Only so many people make 75K+ in LA to afford that.


The funny thing ia you can literally see the socioeconomic clash between the have and have nots in real time.

Those familiar with LA. Think about the large homeless population in weho around santa monica and la brea. Then look at the new condos that propped up and are continually building.
You need to be making at least 100K to afford 4k rent comfortably...

I don't know what taxation is like in Cali but in NY on an 80K salary you're only taking home around 4K a month after the vultures get their piece...
 

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I wonder if a hard Brexit is what causes the next major slowdown.

I don’t think we’re in for a recession. Just a prolonged slowdown/ aka no tax cuts to artificially juice markets.

The divided government in the US isn’t going to give Republicans more tax cuts without giving up some immigrants protections and healthcare fixes.
 

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I wonder if a hard Brexit is what causes the next major slowdown.

I don’t think we’re in for a recession. Just a prolonged slowdown/ aka no tax cuts to artificially juice markets.

The divided government in the US isn’t going to give Republicans more tax cuts without giving up some immigrants protections and healthcare fixes.
Tax cuts? Dog, we are so passed that game.

We are doing taxes of 95% and re are going to get an infrastructure bill pass for every state.

We need to hire so many teachers.
 
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