The relevance of a rapper's background?

[wingzboy]

that just speaks on the type of person that you are

elaborate breh

 

[JasonSJackson]

elaborate breh

Some people have no problem copping/accepting/wearing knock off/fake/replica stuff (like you) some people do (me)......

its as simple as that.

 

[Djimonu]

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[wingzboy]

Some people have no problem copping/accepting/wearing knock off/fake/replica stuff (like you) some people do (me)......

its as simple as that.

That's one of the dumbest analogies i've heard in a while. How does appreciating music for music compare to one's willingness to cop fake sh1t? If an artist is a talented lyricist he is a talented lyricist, irrespective of how genuine the content of his lyrics are. If we applied your lame analogy to your musical taste, then you would be very limited in your choice of rap artists to listen to as the majority make grand exaggerations about how wealthy they are, how big they were in the game, etc., that they may as well be considered outright lies. The majority of rappers brag about having an 8 digit plus net worth when you know the tax man seizing their sh1t soon, a large number of rappers adopt an "escobar" like persona when reality is they at most peddled on the corner, you are delusional if you think having a criminal record will certify that the artist is spitting nothing but truth.

To illustrate my point take Chief Keef vs Rick Ross, one is "real" the other is a fraud based on backgrounds, yet someone like yourself would support Chief Keef regardless of the fact that he falls real short in the talent department if we judging him by the standards typically used to measure the quality of a rap song.

 

[wingzboy]

"lets be real"

wut do u kno bout the guys life lol?

Drake was driving an Acura in his HS years before he had a deal, was that money from slingin? The nikka acknowledges that for the entire time before he was "found" he was renting a rolls royce phantom for months on end, maybe he wasn't rich enough to afford it, but he sure had enough to spend foolishly in a way that the majority of people cannot afford to.

 

[mbewane]

I personnaly don't care one bit, but I'm not from the US.

I mean I like beats and lyrics, if the rapper's story "fits" what he's rapping about that's cool, but I mean I'd rather have more "poetic/abstract" lyrics anyway, and I never believed all those body counts on tracks lol

For me it's entertainment, and a movie director or an actor's background won't influence how I feel about their work.

 

[JasonSJackson]

That's one of the dumbest analogies i've heard in a while. .

Its dumb because you chose not to see the connection.

They can make fake jordans that look almost identical to real ones these days. These fake j's are dam near impossiable to distingiush from the authentic ones without knowing what specific things to look for and I dont give a fukk, id never fukk with them.

These rappers today, like u cornballs favorite go to guy on this topic, William Roberts III, look and talk like official nikkas but, like the fake j's, they arent........and just like my J's......i dont fukk with fakes........no matter how good they look or sound

 

[RTF]

Music isn't just entertainment though. Your favourite song, album, artists tend to get genuine love..

 

[BruhMayne]

"lets be real"

wut do u kno bout the guys life lol?

I doubt he grew up "rich" but the article you posted is evidence he never struggled either. A person doesnt have to be "real" to make good music but to say Drake doesnt fake alot of shyt in his raps is being in denial.

 

[wingzboy]

Its dumb because you chose not to see the connection.

They can make fake jordans that look almost identical to real ones these days. These fake j's are dam near impossiable to distingiush from the authentic ones without knowing what specific things to look for and I dont give a fukk, id never fukk with them.

These rappers today, like u cornballs favorite go to guy on this topic, William Roberts III, look and talk like official nikkas but, like the fake j's, they arent........and just like my J's......i dont fukk with fakes........no matter how good they look or sound

You just acknowledged that there is a way of distinguishing fake j's from the real thing, admitting that nikkas who know what specific thing to look for would be able to discern the real from the fake j's, which is why some would not want to buy fake j's as they may appreciate the craftsmanship involved in making the real. On the other hand if two rap records were played to you and the backgrounds of the artists on each record was not revealed to you, there's no way in hell you will be able to tell which rapper is spittin truth and which is droppin fairytales, you would be forced to judge them on the quality of their rapping.

To me cornball behavior is when a nikka attempts to develop some emotional connection with the rapper that has nothing to do with artist's talent, don't get me wrong, I could meet a street nikka who raps and would respect his hustle in the rap game and his previous hustle on the streets, however I am also capable of recognizing another nikkas talent on record without taking their interview or street talk seriously. However nikkas like you remind me of a point George Michael made when he was asked how he felt about all the female hearts that were broken because of him coming out as gay, he replied something along the lines that those hoes realistically would never have had a chance to sleep with him in the first place, their opinion of him changed based on something that has nothing to do with his music. Similarly nikkas like you could be a fan of an artist one day and stop liking him the next because of some feminine type emotional attachment to an artist that has nothing to do with their music. What today could be a hot track for you would all of a sudden no longer be something you enjoy tomorrow because of some piece of information that has nothing to do with the quality of the song you were just enjoying.

The song hasn't changed nor has the lyrical content, if it was real enough for you to enjoy and relate to when you first heard it, then you clearly believed the story enough to accept it as real and therefore was never capable of identifying the fraud element the same way nikkas can with a pair of fake j's.

 

[duckbutta]

That Drake article makes me think even less of dude... He went to a school with people like that...that had money like that...so for that to be even an option for you means your not that poor...because schools like that are not public schools...schools like that are not free...schools like that cost a lot of money...so there was enough money in his household to send him to a private school full of rich people...that seems to be closer to the opposite of struggle...

that entire article came off as "look i wasn't that rich...see i didn't have rolex money...i didn't have turtle wax money...i stayed in half a house..." ha ha ha...get the fukk out of here...i wish i could have stayed in a place growing up where i had my own basement and my mother stayed on a totally different floor...rather than have my entire family crammed into a little country ass house...

And as far as the relevance of a persons past...it is all general to the music you make and the image you portray...it used to didn't bother me...but as i've grown up i have to at least feel like the artist is not a complete fraud...otherwise i can't listen to his music...cause the entire time the song is playing i am thinking "this nikka aint never done any of this shyt in his life "...

look at the clipse...these dude called themselves coke rappers...then they manager got caught with some real drugs...was moving some real weight...and is now doing some real fed times...and both them dudes were like " it's just raps man. It's just metaphors man. We aint never sold no drugs man." Now...set back and think...how lame is that...how lame is it that you labeled yourself coke rappers...talked about everyone stealing your coke raps...and then when your manager really gets caught with that white...you both go into hiding...hell one of you makes a church rap album

i think it is just general human nature to just disregard anyone who is just portraying a fraudulent lifestyle...and it doesn't help that the majority of these rappers are lame as fukk and probably never even touched a woman until they signed a record deal.

Lol at Drake...nikka...they wouldn't even have let my black ass go to the school point blank period no matter how many flapjacks my gramma made them...

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

its harder to validate now so it doesn't matter.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

The rags to riches thing is a brilliant story arch for most rappers. That is the American Dream too.
As a people - we respect other people that came from the bottom and now are balling. Too an extent it legitimises the chinchilla, diamonds etc. everyone likes it less when preppy family money start balling. It's not just rap - Vampire Weekend have a similar issue. People don't like em cos they seem posh.
It's a common theme in indie rock despite (like hip-hop) a number of the greats/pioneers coming from a decent money/education. In lots of indie rock people want the Kurt Cobain type stories.. people always rather the underdog

The difference is that in rock music, the artist is allowed a lot more artistic freedom...

Also, in rock music, the lyrics tend to be very abstract, and the actual meaning of the song is up to the listener's interpretation...

The problem with hip hop is a problem all throughout black culture...Artistic expression is VERY limited in black culture...Black people limit themselves to the "ghetto" in almost every art form they engage in...

 

[nineteeneightysix]

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[2manyFCKNrappers]

You just acknowledged that there is a way of distinguishing fake j's from the real thing, admitting that nikkas who know what specific thing to look for would be able to discern the real from the fake j's, which is why some would not want to buy fake j's as they may appreciate the craftsmanship involved in making the real. On the other hand if two rap records were played to you and the backgrounds of the artists on each record was not revealed to you, there's no way in hell you will be able to tell which rapper is spittin truth and which is droppin fairytales, you would be forced to judge them on the quality of their rapping.

To me cornball behavior is when a nikka attempts to develop some emotional connection with the rapper that has nothing to do with artist's talent, don't get me wrong, I could meet a street nikka who raps and would respect his hustle in the rap game and his previous hustle on the streets, however I am also capable of recognizing another nikkas talent on record without taking their interview or street talk seriously. However nikkas like you remind me of a point George Michael made when he was asked how he felt about all the female hearts that were broken because of him coming out as gay, he replied something along the lines that those hoes realistically would never have had a chance to sleep with him in the first place, their opinion of him changed based on something that has nothing to do with his music. Similarly nikkas like you could be a fan of an artist one day and stop liking him the next because of some feminine type emotional attachment to an artist that has nothing to do with their music. What today could be a hot track for you would all of a sudden no longer be something you enjoy tomorrow because of some piece of information that has nothing to do with the quality of the song you were just enjoying.

The song hasn't changed nor has the lyrical content, if it was real enough for you to enjoy and relate to when you first heard it, then you clearly believed the story enough to accept it as real and therefore was never capable of identifying the fraud element the same way nikkas can with a pair of fake j's.