The richest 10% own 70% of the country’s wealth

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You literally have no idea what socialism even is :mjlol:

What you're describing is social capitalism, it also doesn't construct monopolies, it gives the public access to necessary amenities and life tools such as public transportation, housing, affordable communication, food, and water. In Japan when they nationalized the rail systems, private rail companies still exist. In countries even with social health services and single payer systems, they still have options for private insurance markets if you elect to use them as a supplement to the state coverage.

In Mexico right now there are entire towns that Coca-Cola has bought out their wells and springs so that the people in the towns and cities this happens in literally cannot afford access to water, people die because of this.

Socialism is literally the ablution of capital, not the consolidation of it. At least learn what something is before you pop off on hot takes and your Joe Rogan esq "NAH BRUH WATCH THIS HUSTLE PORN AND WORK 90 HOURS A WEEK AND YOU TOO CAN BE SLIGHTLY WEALTHIER THAN AVERAGE". nikka I got two kids, most people have kids, most people have lives and wants and needs and desires because human beings are complex, social organisms that require more than the rote acquisition of capital to be happy, fulfilled, and live meaningful lives. People are naturally communal.

The world view and the way you live sounds tremendously empty and cold.
listen, you can be communal all you want :skip:

the truth is, the only reason "nice" things exist in society is that someone decided to make them and distribute them.

You act like to make alot of money requires 90 hours of hustle porn. It does not! Because this is your worker mind telling you that "hard work = success"

FALSE. The money is in being smart and clever. This is why people are communal because this is what is truly rare! This is how powerful people happen.

The man back in sumerian times that observed plants long enough to figure out how to grow it himself instantly became the most wealthy man in town. Or the guy that decided that using ink on mashed up plant material that he dried was better than carving into stone.
 

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listen, you can be communal all you want :skip:

the truth is, the only reason "nice" things exist in society is that someone decided to make them and distribute them.

You act like to make alot of money requires 90 hours of hustle porn. It does not! Because this is your worker mind telling you that "hard work = success"

FALSE. The money is in being smart and clever. This is why people are communal because this is what is truly rare! This is how powerful people happen.

The man back in sumerian times that observed plants long enough to figure out how to grow it himself instantly became the most wealthy man in town. Or the guy that decided that using ink on mashed up plant material that he dried was better than carving into stone.
I don't need you to tell me your evopsych philosophy, like again, literally evopsych 101. It's vague, it's an extrapolation using modern contexts for all of human living, it removes all differentiating factors of human living and advancement and distills it down to the concept of wealth and power. And the concept of wealth being necessary to drive the nebulous concept of advancement has been proven false over and over again. The innate human concepts of empathy and altruism have driven just as much creative and well meaning services.

Do you know how many smart and clever people I see every day working the line at McDonalds? How many people who could quote Aristotle in the original Greek bagging groceries?

Acquiring capital means you have to first be in a situation where you've got the capital to do so. You can't magically make money just by being smart, just by hustling, just by "wanting it more". Plenty of people want it more than anything and have the brains and desire to do great things and end up dead in a gutter. Because the idea that you can just "make it" is a fantasy, you basically won the lottery. That's not a sustainable manner in which to live.

"Powerful people" "This is what communialism is" dude again, I don't need to hear the evopsych shyt, it's nothing new. You're fundamentally missing the point of what I'm saying, the point of all of this.

I don't even think you understand what being a naturally communal species even means, really. I think you're fundamentally misunderstanding and misreading what I'm saying. The point is that people aren't designed for the pursuit of money at the destruction of all else. That the wrote desire to acquire more doesn't leave people happy, fulfilled, or left with a sense of accomplishment. People need other people in meaningful connective ways, we crave the company of others, we do tremendous good for the betterment of others. The idea that "the only reason someone invented the wheel was so that person could be rich" is a fundamental misreading of not only human nature, but is fundamentally ahistorical. Early societies were communal societies, advancements and new technologies and ideas were used and shared for the betterment of all involved. Not just to acquire money. Capitalism has only existed for 200 years. People don't flock to "powerful people" or whatever you're trying to say, the "truly powerful" didn't invent the concept of agriculture. People banded together to create, test, and refine these things. They created civilizations and incredibly complex social interactions and communal goods. Native Americans had extremely complex societies without any concept of personal property and ownership. The concept of group rights is a fundamental aspect of communal cultures and a basic tenant of socialism. Even modern black communities concentrated around group rights, communal betterment and advancement until the FBI decided to murder all our leaders to keep the black people from discovering the inalienable truth of modern living.

That all of this bullshyt they feed us is just that, bullshyt. Capitalism is not the global system because everybody arrived at it naturally, it had to be imposed on the world through force because the countries that industrialized first were the ones that created the concept. Even early Capitalist thinkers like Hobbes and Hume write about this. Mills proposes many social and communal aspects of the collective betterment of all within capital and that unchecked pursuit of wealth is only leading to the amassing of it and the creation of the overwhelming global poverty we see today. Even Adam Smith warns of that.

Acquiring capital is not as simple as just being smart and finding an angle. It requires tremendous capital to begin with, or tremendous luck. And a sacrifice of the connection to other people that drives many of these hyper wealthy people utterly insane. Because now you're all alone on an island with your wealth.
 

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I don't need you to tell me your evopsych philosophy, like again, literally evopsych 101. It's vague, it's an extrapolation using modern contexts for all of human living, it removes all differentiating factors of human living and advancement and distills it down to the concept of wealth and power. And the concept of wealth being necessary to drive the nebulous concept of advancement has been proven false over and over again. The innate human concepts of empathy and altruism have driven just as much creative and well meaning services.

Do you know how many smart and clever people I see every day working the line at McDonalds? How many people who could quote Aristotle in the original Greek bagging groceries?

Acquiring capital means you have to first be in a situation where you've got the capital to do so. You can't magically make money just by being smart, just by hustling, just by "wanting it more". Plenty of people want it more than anything and have the brains and desire to do great things and end up dead in a gutter. Because the idea that you can just "make it" is a fantasy, you basically won the lottery. That's not a sustainable manner in which to live.

"Powerful people" "This is what communialism is" dude again, I don't need to hear the evopsych shyt, it's nothing new. You're fundamentally missing the point of what I'm saying, the point of all of this.

I don't even think you understand what being a naturally communal species even means, really. I think you're fundamentally misunderstanding and misreading what I'm saying. The point is that people aren't designed for the pursuit of money at the destruction of all else. That the wrote desire to acquire more doesn't leave people happy, fulfilled, or left with a sense of accomplishment. People need other people in meaningful connective ways, we crave the company of others, we do tremendous good for the betterment of others. The idea that "the only reason someone invented the wheel was so that person could be rich" is a fundamental misreading of not only human nature, but is fundamentally ahistorical. Early societies were communal societies, advancements and new technologies and ideas were used and shared for the betterment of all involved. Not just to acquire money. Capitalism has only existed for 200 years. People don't flock to "powerful people" or whatever you're trying to say, the "truly powerful" didn't invent the concept of agriculture. People banded together to create, test, and refine these things. They created civilizations and incredibly complex social interactions and communal goods. Native Americans had extremely complex societies without any concept of personal property and ownership. The concept of group rights is a fundamental aspect of communal cultures and a basic tenant of socialism. Even modern black communities concentrated around group rights, communal betterment and advancement until the FBI decided to murder all our leaders to keep the black people from discovering the inalienable truth of modern living.

That all of this bullshyt they feed us is just that, bullshyt. Capitalism is not the global system because everybody arrived at it naturally, it had to be imposed on the world through force because the countries that industrialized first were the ones that created the concept. Even early Capitalist thinkers like Hobbes and Hume write about this. Mills proposes many social and communal aspects of the collective betterment of all within capital and that unchecked pursuit of wealth is only leading to the amassing of it and the creation of the overwhelming global poverty we see today. Even Adam Smith warns of that.

Acquiring capital is not as simple as just being smart and finding an angle. It requires tremendous capital to begin with, or tremendous luck. And a sacrifice of the connection to other people that drives many of these hyper wealthy people utterly insane. Because now you're all alone on an island with your wealth.
if you spent half this energy trying to make something you wouldn't need a commune :mjlol: next it'll be "hunting and gathering isn't so bad"

all this "evopsych" shyt is tomfoolery. If war popped off and your money meant nothing due to catastrophe, how do you see you maintaining a place in society?

this is ultimately what is happening in venezuela :yungdro:
 

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lol at their great grand children. we're talking billions upon billions, actually trillions.

their kids kids kids kids...kids..kids x 100 will never....ever spend it all. NEVER. EVER.

NEVER.

thats how you know its just a hoard thing for them.
let me expand on this for a moment. I dont think people really understand what billions of dollars mean. You hear it all the time nowadays with this super power companies and super big willies running around.

But lets think about it for a moment.

Ask a simple question: How long would it take to spend 1 Billion dollars if you Blew 1 million dollars every month?
Answer: It would take you 83 years and 4 months or 1000 months to blow that much money at that rate. how insane is that?

Now mind you, anything you buy with a million dollars can most likely be resold(perhaps you wont get back what you paid and it will be sold at a loss but you still wont be flat broke if you had to sell off all the BS you bought every month).So even if you so called BLEW it all. you wouldnt ever grow broke or not be rich. NEVER, EVER.

Mr Amazon has $100+ billions. Ask that same question multiple the answer by 100. not add. i said Multiply. 1,000 months X 100 = 100,000 months = 8,333 Years and change

If you spent $1,000 a day, how long would it take you to reach 1 billion dollars spent? 1 million days my friend.
so if you started today 06/06/2019. You wouldnt finish that last grand off until it was May 3rd, 4757.


^^^This is why these people need to come up off that money. There is no logical reason for a handful of people to have that kind of doe. It just isnt.


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