The Sixers Clause: Let's brainstorm on how to keep teams from Sixeri...err.. TANKING

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What the Sixers are doing is smarting than the Hawks or Pistons strategy of signing overrated players and/or consistently making the 7-8th seed. Mark my words if Embid and Nerlens stays healthy, the Sixers will compete for chips.
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You are assuming that every team that ends up with the worst record really didn't try. That's like saying every one on welfare can't support themselves on purpose. Sometimes a team is just bad and NEEDS an infusion of talent thus why the NBA would give them the first pick.

I doubt that a team who's drafting well, coaching well, signing players in the off season, and playing hard every night is gonna end up with the worse record.

If it was up to me, I ain't giving an organization full of d leaguers a top pick. Show me that you're actually trying to do shyt to improve.

I feel that in my way there will be new teams in the playoffs every year. It'll help teams get over that hump.

And to apply that in a real life situation, I ain't helping anybody who ain't trying to help themselves. Sometimes I'm in a position to hire people. I ain't giving any of my boys who sit at home all day or chill on the block all day any work. But show me that you're trying to better yourself by going to school or trying to learn a trade, filling out applications, going on job interviews, shyt like that and I'll make sure I find something for you.
 

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I doubt that a team who's drafting well, coaching well, signing players in the off season, and playing hard every night is gonna end up with the worse record.
Good teams can be hit with injuries or have gotten old
  • See the Spurs the year before they drafted Duncan. 59 wins one year. Robinson goes down and they end up with 20 wins
  • See the Heat before they drafted Beasley - Wade gets hurt. Shaq is limping then bounces.
  • See Miami before they got Wade - Mourning got sick. Hardaway got hurt. The rest of the team was just old
And this is not about the top pick. The top pick is only a big deal when you have one of those once in a lifetime players about to declare for the draft. To me a team thats tanking shouldnt be rewarded with any of the top 5 picks, period. But again notice i said teams that are tanking. Teams that just are bad and need the talent should be fascilitated in getting it.

My probem is when you have a team that finishes among the bottom of the league in wins 2,3 years in a row. One year is okay (see Miami and San Antonio). 2 years is cause for concern. 3 years...You're not getting any of the top 5 picks, period
 

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Good teams can be hit with injuries or have gotten old
  • See the Spurs the year before they drafted Duncan. 59 wins one year. Robinson goes down and they end up with 20 wins
  • See the Heat before they drafted Beasley - Wade gets hurt. Shaq is limping then bounces.
  • See Miami before they got Wade - Mourning got sick. Hardaway got hurt. The rest of the team was just old
And this is not about the top pick. The top pick is only a big deal when you have one of those once in a lifetime players about to declare for the draft. To me a team thats tanking shouldnt be rewarded with any of the top 5 picks, period. But again notice i said teams that are tanking. Teams that just are bad and need the talent should be fascilitated in getting it.

My probem is when you have a team that finishes among the bottom of the league in wins 2,3 years in a row. One year is okay (see Miami and San Antonio). 2 years is cause for concern. 3 years...You're not getting any of the top 5 picks, period


I understand what you're saying, I just disagree. I feel like the way I purposed is better.
 

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Rookie contracts are 4 years long, thats the biggest benefit of tanking

Rookie deals should only last 2 or 3 years
 

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The 76ers strategy hasn't really been working they are drafting dudes who are Injured 2 seasons in a row....and they are treating Noel with kid gloves....you have to have a winning environment to build if these dudes come under nin a losing environment they will likely have to trade some of them to bring in winners...

None of the players they are getting are Superstar level players....(I hope Embiid is).

Theyre doing that on purpose

Drsfting talent to stockpile instead of letting them play and increase your wins

Next year draft is better thsn this year though

For the tank to work you gotts do it 3 yesrs straight then spend mkney on free sgentd the summer of year 3
 

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What the Sixers are doing is smarting than the Hawks or Pistons strategy of signing overrated players and/or consistently making the 7-8th seed. Mark my words if Embid and Nerlens stays healthy, the Sixers will compete for chips.

Pretty much

the thing about the NBA is that it's not like the NFL or baseball where anything can happen in the playoffs, the sad truth is that if you're a 6-8 seed, you are NEVER going to beat the Spurs, Heat (last year, bron years), Thunder, Clips in a 7 game series. 7 games don't allow for upsets, the best team will ALWAYS win. It's not like hockey where u can come back from 0-3 to win a series, that never happens. Or baseball where the fukking wild card teams can make the world series

if the playoffs were single elimination i'm pretty sure the sixers would've kept jrue holiday, iguodala, and vucevic

So you're either a championship contender or you're nothing. Stop fooling yourselves. The method pretty much is to get draft picks and build from there, add pieces etc to get to that championship contending squad.
 
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Theyre doing that on purpose

Drsfting talent to stockpile instead of letting them play and increase your wins

Next year draft is better thsn this year though

For the tank to work you gotts do it 3 yesrs straight then spend mkney on free sgentd the summer of year 3

We dont know that for certain though breh because this previous draft was supposed to be akin to 96 and 03
 

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Cut down on the nba teams so everyone get talent. Every game would be competitive
 

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things is...is the sixer's strategy ever going to pay off?

I doubt it...
:what: why won't it? They already got their core three in tact in MCW, Noel & Embiid. Let them get a scoring 2 guard in this draft with Saric coming in next year they'll have their scoring 3. Hell yeah it'll payoff. They'll be sitting pretty in about 3-5 years.
 

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The 76ers strategy hasn't really been working they are drafting dudes who are Injured 2 seasons in a row....and they are treating Noel with kid gloves....you have to have a winning environment to build if these dudes come under nin a losing environment they will likely have to trade some of them to bring in winners...

None of the players they are getting are Superstar level players....(I hope Embiid is).

They'll have Embiid/Noel/MCW/Saric/plus at least another top 5 pick and they will be the only players under contract... They'll pick up tons of good players in free agency one year and load up... It's hard to not imagine them being really good once they do decide to pay actual good players and free agency and load up

I totally get the strategy, it's pretty much what I do on 2k, but that's a game... not real life and I just don't know how you can do this to your fan base... if the Celtics were doing this, I absolutely would not be watching the games and even more absolutely wouldn't be paying to see them... how can the sixers not be losing money like crazy?

plus, in all honesty, in a way; this approach is extremely lazy and uncreative IMO... it's basically the easy way out
 

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:what: why won't it? They already got their core three in tact in MCW, Noel & Embiid. Let them get a scoring 2 guard in this draft with Saric coming in next year they'll have their scoring 3. Hell yeah it'll payoff. They'll be sitting pretty in about 3-5 years.
what do you mean by sitting pretty? A 3/4 seed in the east with no chance at winning it all?

if thats the case then I'd say it wasn't worth it.
 
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They'll have Embiid/Noel/MCW/Saric/plus at least another top 5 pick and they will be the only players under contract... They'll pick up tons of good players in free agency one year and load up... It's hard to not imagine them being really good once they do decide to pay actual good players and free agency and load up

I totally get the strategy, it's pretty much what I do on 2k, but that's a game... not real life and I just don't know how you can do this to your fan base... if the Celtics were doing this, I absolutely would not be watching the games and even more absolutely wouldn't be paying to see them... how can the sixers not be losing money like crazy?

plus, in all honesty, in a way; this approach is extremely lazy and uncreative IMO... it's basically the easy way out
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This approach is everything but being 'extremely lazy'. This takes years and years of preparation and patience.
 

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what do you mean by sitting pretty? A 3/4 seed in the east with no chance at winning it all?

if thats the case then I'd say it wasn't worth it.
They'll be a force in the east. 1-2 seed. maybe three. I can see it all coming together. Thunder was on the same shyt just 7 years ago. After KD, Westbrook and Harden got accustomed they became a force to be reckoned with. Same could happen with these Sixers.
 
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