The sooner Vince realizes its not 83 the better

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

You are not comprehending the basis of this thread I am talking day ONE! Not a few months. Not a couple years. Day one where Vince goes "this guy is getting pushed right now and never jobbing. He is going to headline WM within a year and become megastar status. Taker was an attraction. He was never the face of the company till this day. He was just another foil for Hogan and thats it. Yoko? How are you naming heels? Plus Yoko was suppose to be another foil for a major babyface(luger) but we know how that played out. HBK wasn't giving the ball until almost 8 years into the company. Brock wasn't truly over nor a draw until the Mania match with Angle.

he 100% definitely did that with brock. and Hogan. and Taker. and nash.

and all of them worked except for nash and he made nash important at least. and Lashley WOULD'VE worked had he not left. I didn't like lashley but he was getting over for sure.

 

[The G.O.D II]

he 100% definitely did that with brock. and Hogan. and Taker. and nash.

and all of them worked except for nash and he made nash important at least. and Lashley WOULD'VE worked had he not left. I didn't like lashley but he was getting over for sure.

You don't get it breh. Its cool

 

[Golayitdown]

I can get jiggy with this thread. OP isn't saying the two groups deserve to me mentioned in the same breath as far as talent but the situations are similar. Other than a guy here or there, I tend to agree.

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

You don't get it breh. Its cool

don't even attempt to pull that card on the likes of me. Its much more that you don't get the industry or have selection bias. Personally i think its the latter.

there are CLEAR TIMES when vince and co say "THIS IS OUR GUY" then they PUSH that guy and it works

HOGAN, BROCK, WARRIOR, TAKER are clearly selections. but you don't wanna include them on your little sample size so okay

 

[mrken12]

My hate for Luger is almost as strong as R=G's for Cena

How did he even make a list

Yeah. When I saw Luger, I was thinking

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

Luger was over, they just never gave him the WWE title.

 

[The G.O.D II]

don't even attempt to pull that card on the likes of me. Its much more that you don't get the industry or have selection bias. Personally i think its the latter.

there are CLEAR TIMES when vince and co say "THIS IS OUR GUY" then they PUSH that guy and it works

HOGAN, BROCK, WARRIOR, TAKER are clearly selections. but you don't wanna include them on your little sample size so okay

I'm not attempting anything. You just don't get it. Why do you keep mentioning Taker when Its know he was a novelty act? He wasn't even suppose to be full time. He didn't get a run until 97, a full 6 years in the business. He was not the face of the company. He was not the guy. Warrior i didn't mention because he was a flop in the grand scheme of things. Once again, Brock didn't catch on until nearly a year in. I remember him beating the fukk out of the Hardy's/RVD to pure silence. I remember reading WO reports on how house show business dropped while he was on top(not really his fault but is what it is) The simple fact is every guy Vince has got behind with the mega push has not panned out. Fans have historically choose the guy first and management recognized it and got behind him

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Luger was over, they just never gave him the WWE title.

No. He wasn't over. I was a kid mark and their target. Never fukked with luger in wwf

 

[Silkk]

Luger was over, they just never gave him the WWE title.

No. He wasn't over. I was a kid mark and their target. Never fukked with luger in wwf

Luger was never over until he put on that Red & Black

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

No. He wasn't over. I was a kid mark and their target. Never fukked with luger in wwf

Luger was never over until he put on that Red & Black

Rewatch 1993 WWF stuff with Luger in it. He was getting great pops with that USA shyt. If you're not given the world title, your push will eventually lose steam, which is what happened to Luger.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

Rewatch 1993 WWF stuff with Luger in it. He was getting great pops with that USA shyt. If you're not given the world title, your push will eventually lose steam, which is what happened to Luger.

Every wrestler ever gets pop on some pro america shyt fighting Japan Russia or Iran

He was never as over as hogan or bret