The Stupidity of WWE, Vol. 1

[Jmare007]

Reading how they botched the Summer Of Punk was just I don't even think fantasy booking a worst case scenario after the pipebomb you could come out with something as bad and moronic as the stuff they ended up doing

2011 also had them ruining "Awesome Truth". They stumbled their way to try to make them "something" for Rock's return at Survivor Series and failed miserably.

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

I'm more upset about the lack of creativity with this shirt...they did the same shyt with Goldust, finally gets his first WWE shirt and they just put his face on it....yea....thats what folks want

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

Wondered what happened there.

Zack Ryder was finally showing a turn of character, a more serious character and they stopped him before it could go over.

 

[Reality Check]

Hold up.....was that shirt released around the same time they released that Sin Cara action figure with the fukkin' arm sling?

If it was.....then that HAD to be intentional

I thought the arm sling action figure was a while after the shirt

 

[TrueEpic08]

Cena challenging Rey the same night Rey won was just awful from a character standpoint for super face Cena. And then Punk coming back the same night was way too soon. Rey was still over and they could've just had Rey vs. Cena at SummerSlam which was a match that never took place on PPV and something new, but they had Cena vs. Punk for the second month in a row and that flopped.

I forgot all about that Sin Cara shirt

The Nash-Punk angle could have been salvaged despite it being stupid in the first place. Him texting himself was retarded, it all went downhill from there. They could have done the Authority angle more then and it would have been fine. Nash would have been a good side goon for HHH and would make more sense from historical perspective than just throwing Kane in there randomly. Nash ended up fighting HHH in a TLC match so its not like he didnt wrestle (and the fact that they made Nash do a TLC match in his condition was equally retarded). Should have been a no DQ match or another hell in the cell




I thought the match was fairly entertaining all things considered

Summer of Punk was basically the second easiest opportunity to print money that the WWE had in the last 5 years...all they had to do was build intrigue, keep Punk off of TV for more than 8 days and give him a legitimate main event angle and heel figure when he came back (which should have been Triple H...and it would've worked. Punk even GAVE THEM THE SEEDS FOR THE HEEL TURN DURING HIS SHOOT PROMO). Instead, they brought him back too early, made him look like a petulant jackass instead of a true corporate rebel (them made him look like a hypocrite during the walkout...Punk being Punk, he was smart enough to salvage that from a character standpoint during his heel turn), and jobbed him out three straight times on PPV. The biggest surge of positive mainstream coverage they've gotten in nearly a decade...and they completely piss it away in a manner that most could've never dreamed of.

But that wasn't the worst thing that they did. No, nothing in the OP pales in comparison to what they did with Brock Lesnar. WWE gets a guy with the following credentials:

-NCAA Division I Heavyweight Wrestling Champion
-Former WWE Champion
-Former IWGP Heavyweight Champion
-Former UFC Heavyweight Champion
-Nearly outdrew EVERY WWE Pay-Per-View (international buys included) in 2010 with just 2 fights (domestic buys only)
-Complete fukking monster of a human being

Credentials that will never be matched again (let me repeat that: No one in the history of wrestling, for as long as it still exists, will EVER have this combination of credentials again)...credentials which, if worked into a storyline correctly, would absolutely make a guy or cement someone's legacy when they finally beat him. So do they have him go undefeated for a year and build to a WrestleMania main event where someone is made by beating him? fukk NO, this is WWE we're talking about. They have Cena beat him in his first match back for no good reason.

Only the Invasion was a bigger waste than Cena beating Lesnar 2 years ago. fukking hell...

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Agree...plus Lesnar beat the fukk out of Cena the whole match..bloodied him up then Cena won on the AA on top of the stairs in the ring

 

[Grifter]

Cena is an a$$hole.




But he wins.

 

[TrueEpic08]

Mentioning the Invasion's gotten me fired up...so if we're going to talk WWE stupidity, let's crunch some numbers.

There's no point in talking about how WWE fukked up the Invasion from a creative standpoint, as the internet has been awash in such discussions pretty much since the Invasion ended.

So let's look at the numbers:

InVasion did anywhere between 760,000 to 775,000 buys for a July pay-per-view. The next closest number that I can dig up for a July pay-per-view was for Fully Loaded 2000, which did around 420,000 buys (no other July PPV comes close to this number). The closest number I can dig up for a Royal Rumble, SummerSlam or a Survivor Series is around the 650,000 range (one source I found had the 1999 Rumble at around 693,000 buys, but buyrates were counted differently before 2000).

So a PPV in what was usually a lame duck pre-SummerSlam month for the WWF did the single highest non-WrestleMania buyrate ever off of the strength of the concept of a WWF vs. WCW feud. And by quite a margin at that. Not to mention nearly double the buys of any other July PPV ever (and if you believe some pre-2000 WrestleMania buyrate estimates, it did better than pretty much every pre-1998 WrestleMania on PPV as well).

Now, imagine if the WWF had some sense and had booked the Invasion competently through to WrestleMania.

Numbers can absolutely lie (fukk the "men lie, women lie, numbers don't" maxim), but they tell quite the damning story in this case.

 

[Vinny Lupton]

I completely forgot about the Anonymous GM shyt. That was so bad

 

[King P]

I've always said that they were very limited regardless with Invasion angle, so I can't really blame them for that.

But the Anonymous GM and Summer Of Punk angles

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

They still had enough talented guys in that Invasion angle to make a lot work especially with the tag team division

 

[King P]

They still had enough talented guys in that Invasion angle to make a lot work especially with the tag team division

That's true.

Truth be told, I never thought the Invasion angle was that terrible. But at times it was poorly executed and definitely coulda been better.

But some of the issues (mainly the lack of star WCW guys) were out of their control for the most part.

Had Triple H (and benoit to an extent) not been injured and had their original WCW plan went through, the angle could've been alot better

 

[TrueEpic08]

That's true.

Truth be told, I never thought the Invasion angle was that terrible. But at times it was poorly executed and definitely coulda been better.

But some of the issues (mainly the lack of star WCW guys) were out of their control for the most part.

Had Triple H (and benoit to an extent) not been injured and had their original WCW plan went through, the angle could've been alot better

This part is actually entirely their fault. They had more than enough money to buy out the contracts of guys like Goldberg, Scott Steiner, Ric Flair (who appeared the VERY NIGHT AFTER the Invasion angle ended), Eric Bischoff, etc. And yet they didn't because they thought it would "upset the salary structure of the locker room" (they ended up getting Goldberg and, lo and behold, signed him to a contract that upset the salary structure of the locker room, without the possibility of making a fukkton of money to make up for it).

I will say that Hunter getting injured screwed up a lot of the original Invasion plans (they had to fast track everything because of the quad injury), but that's no excuse for them screwing it up as badly as they did. When New Japan does an invasion angle six years earlier and makes a $6.1 Million gate on its biggest show sans PPV, then what WWE did has to be seen as a massive failure.

 

[Alexander The Great]

Kliq runs the biz

 

[King P]

This part is actually entirely their fault. They had more than enough money to buy out the contracts of guys like Goldberg, Scott Steiner, Ric Flair (who appeared the VERY NIGHT AFTER the Invasion angle ended), Eric Bischoff, etc. And yet they didn't because they thought it would "upset the salary structure of the locker room" (they ended up getting Goldberg and, lo and behold, signed him to a contract that upset the salary structure of the locker room, without the possibility of making a fukkton of money to make up for it).

I will say that Hunter getting injured screwed up a lot of the original Invasion plans (they had to fast track everything because of the quad injury), but that's no excuse for them screwing it up as badly as they did. When New Japan does an invasion angle six years earlier and makes a $6.1 Million gate on its biggest show sans PPV, then what WWE did has to be seen as a massive failure.

I'm pretty sure most of them chose to sit out and wait for their contracts to expire. Which makes sense. Why would you go back and wrestle when you can just sit home on the couch, spend time with your family, eat cheetos, jack off to porn, and still get paid, waiting for your contact to expire and reup when your buzz is higher.

Also from what I remember, Vince wasn't too keen on bringing back alot of the stars who were considered "bad apples" and left the company on bad terms. He felt they had enough stars that they didn't need them. From what I remember, there was only 3 guys they approached to join the E: Flair, Sting, and Goldberg