The Summer of Dysfunction: NBA 2022 Offseason thread

[Flex Luger]

A 100 million for Brunson is nasty work

Knicks gonna Knick

 

[Morethan1]

 

[Gritsngravy]

I don’t know why the Spurs would do this.

And honestly I don’t see the fit between Murray and Young—I get the idea that Murray will “cover up” for Trae’s defensive shortcomings but I don’t see the fit overall.

Lowkey could trae play the 2 guard role running around screens getting his shyt off

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

An empty calories play like hmmm… Andrew Wiggins right?

You think you'd be bringing up Wiggins right now if he went to the Spurs?



San Antonio no longer has that environment where they can turn shyt into gold. Wiggins landed himself in the perfect situation, being a role player on a team that already had the genesis of a championship squad. The Spurs don't have that, so you can't use Wiggins as an example of what Collins would turn into. Never mind the fact that Wiggins had already shown his defensive potential prior to going to GS, he just needed the right situation to fulfill that. What defense have you seen Collins playing?



The assist-rate on his field-goals has hovered around 80% for his career - there's a reason for that.

Even when you win, you lose.

I'm going to be winning all summer, meanwhile, you're back to selling mixtapes out your trunk.

 

[Ribbs]

Spurs going into tank mode? Even after Dejounte was an All Star last year

 

[AAKing23]

Morey is so fukkin desperate to reassemble his old Rockets squad in Philly in spite of how flabby and shytty all these dudes are now it's shameless He gonna try and trade Embiid for Clint Capela next at this rate

shyt is pathetic, fukk this dumbass team

 

[#1 pick]

I actually like the fit.

Dejounte showed he could play that sidekick role alongside DeRozan, where he didn't need to be on the ball, on every possession. Trae's definitely going to need to make some adjustments, but they both balance out each other's weaknesses. A playmaking-defensive guard is exactly the type of player that Trae needs to be put alongside, and really, there aren't too many of them around.

Dejounte is a winning player; Collins is at the other end of the spectrum.

If the Spurs plan on going in a different direction, they can do a lot better than trading one of their very few valuable pieces for an empty calories player.

Collins is definitely a winning player if you are trying to insult him and say he's not

 

[Hersh]

what time draft tomorrow. i know free agency starts the 30th.. but midnight?lol

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Collins is definitely a winning player if you are trying to insult him and say he's not

He can't create offense for himself, doesn't create offense for anyone else, and his defensive effort is dependent on those around him. He's someone who's reliant on those around him rather than being the initiator; he's not someone who's going to lead the way on either end.

Not trying to insult him - just stating the facts.

 

[#1 pick]

He can't create offense for himself, doesn't create offense for anyone else, and his defensive effort is dependent on those around him. He's someone who's reliant on those around him rather than being the initiator; he's not someone who's going to lead the way on either end.

Not trying to insult him - just stating the facts.

That ain't got shyt to do with being a winning player, that just means he ain't no star. Draymond is a winning and can't shoot a fukking lick.

JC is elite at movement skills, elite at the PnR, PnP, elite efficiency, decent rim protector, great communicator and teammate.

I don't know what your issue is with my squad but you be on some fukk nikka shyt. If you don't watch my team, don't speak on it.

 

[Hersh]

Colin's biggest issue he's undersized.. and not the defender dray is.. but he competes..

 

[Dwight Howard]

Honestly if I were the pistons I’d consider throwing that money at Sexton before Ayton ..unless Ayton really doesn’t have another gear in the tank that was being held back in PHX

Ayton is a 20/10 player, he has another gear of offense for sure but playing with book and cp3 reduced his opportunities (rightfully so) but yea ayton ready to spread his wings

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

That ain't got shyt to do with being a winning player, that just means he ain't no star. Draymond is a winning and can't shoot a fukking lick.

Draymond is a winning player because he understands when/how to get players involved, and is one of the most impactful players we've seen on the defensive end.

He is also one of the core members of a squad that has won four championships.

The same can't be said for Collins.

I don't know what your issue is with my squad but you be on some fukk nikka shyt. If you don't watch my team, don't speak on it.

I don't have an issue with the Hawks. It's more that you overrate every and anyone on the team:

Spoiler

There is a reason I say Trae is the best offensive player in the NBA and not Jokic. You can't wear Trae down, he wears you down. With Jokic, you can run him down. Phoenix did it last year and GS is gonna do it this year.

Trae is just a lot better than Jokic offensively. Trae biggest flaw is, he's just a below average open court player but that don't mean shyt in the playoffs as it does in the RS.

Trae getting slept on when he's the best in the game offensively. Nothing like him. Every offensive possession, he puts maximum pressure on your defense. Jokic is RS elite. A lot of the shyt he do is because you don't have time to gameplan around it in the RS. The problem playing against Trae is like Reggie Miller, he has time to gameplan against you in the playoffs. To me, it was never close. I know Jokic deserved MVP this year but he's flawed playoffs wise. I don't think Murray or Porter Jr is the answer either.

I hate fans with zero Basketball IQ and don't watch the NBA as much as I do. Shut the fukk up when someone who's knows what they are talking about is talking.

There is a reason I say Trae is the best offensive player in the NBA and not Jokic. You can't wear Trae down, he wears you down. With Jokic, you can run him down. Phoenix did it last year and GS is gonna do it this year.

Trae is just a lot better than Jokic offensively. Trae biggest flaw is, he's just a below average open court player but that don't mean shyt in the playoffs as it does in the RS.

Trae getting slept on when he's the best in the game offensively. Nothing like him. Every offensive possession, he puts maximum pressure on your defense. Jokic is RS elite. A lot of the shyt he do is because you don't have time to gameplan around it in the RS. The problem playing against Trae is like Reggie Miller, he has time to gameplan against you in the playoffs. To me, it was never close. I know Jokic deserved MVP this year but he's flawed playoffs wise. I don't think Murray or Porter Jr is the answer either.

Its facts, watch all Trae games. Ain't nothing like him offensively, especially in the playoffs. In the RS, he take too many possessions off but in the playoffs. That nikka is playing chess at a chess master level. Just watch that shyt.

Watch Jokic, all of the RS excellence goes away when teams scheme it away. We saw Phoenix do it last year. We are seeing GS do it this year.

There is levels to this shyt. Jokic for the RS, is one of the GOATs offensively. In the playoffs, he's not that guy.

We don't want to go through another episode of this. Let's not turn the offseason thread into a debate about the Hawks, now, alright, my g?

 

[#1 pick]

He can't create offense for himself, doesn't create offense for anyone else, and his defensive effort is dependent on those around him. He's someone who's reliant on those around him rather than being the initiator; he's not someone who's going to lead the way on either end.

Not trying to insult him - just stating the facts.

That doesn't mean he's not a winning player. Draymond can't shoot a lick and we all admit he's a winning player.

John is elite at movement skills, PnR. PnP, shooting from all three levels, efficiency, elite hands, high BBIQ on both ends, excellent communicator on defense. Solid rim protector.

His defense effort is always high regardless of personnel. Bro, you cutting this nikka made short when he's a top 60 player in the NBA. Your description could be used for a fukker like Christian Wood. JC is a very good player. He does have his issues but he is an impact player and that's why he got himself paid.

I expect better from you. You sound like a causal who don't know shyt. Step your fukking game up, you better than this.

 

[#1 pick]

Draymond is a winning player because he understands when/how to get players involved, and is one of the most impactful players we've seen on the defensive end.

He is also one of the core members of a squad that has won four championships.

The same can't be said for Collins.

I don't have an issue with the Hawks. It's more that you overrate every and anyone on the team:






We don't want to go through another episode of this. Let's not turn the offseason thread into a debate about the Hawks, now, alright, my g?

Draymond has obvious flaws as does John. That doesn't stop them from being winning players.

I can care less about how you feel. When GS fans were saying this about Curry before everyone caught on, nikkas like you were laughing too.

Time will reveal. Just needs the right personnel which will come in time. Bro single handedly lead our offense to 2nd in the NBA with Capela being the #2 option. Think about that shyt. nikkas sleep, let em sleep.