The Trayvon Martin Case

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Harry Sax

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i agree


still doesnt change the fact that u have a right to defend urself if ur getting pummeled into the ground

u give up those rights when u stalk someone...if anybody is within the stand your ground law it was trayvon because he felt threatened to the point that he had to run away from him
 

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ur probably right

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this is just an L all around for everyone involved tho. People need to both learn how to stop being fakkit snitches like Zimmerman and cats need to also learn how to not use violence as a means to solve problems like Trayvon did

Lessons should be learned from this fukkery to prevent it from ever happening again (Logic86 take note, ur snitch ways could ruin ur life b)


but to single out any one individual as a cold blooded, murdering bad guy is just being biased and ignoring the facts
 

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i agree


still doesnt change the fact that u have a right to defend urself if ur getting pummeled into the ground
Not if you avoid all opportunities to prevent a confrontation, and initiate one yourself.

I know you're still trolling, but care to point out why you gloss over Trayvon's right to self-defense?

Are you pretending like a dude watching you from his vehicle, talking on a phone, then getting out and following you...you trying to say you wouldn't be fearing for your safety in the slightest? :shaq:
 

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I certainly would be fearing for my safety if someone was following me, especially at night.

but after the 3rd punch and 2nd head slam I gave to dude while he was on the ground defenseless I'm sure that fear would have evaporated

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The whole thing coulda been avoided had Trayvon just walked away after he asked Zimmerman if he had a problem and Zimmerman replied with no.

Instead he wanted to be a gangsta and said "Well, you got a problem now" and the rest is history.
 

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i agree


still doesnt change the fact that u have a right to defend urself if ur getting pummeled into the ground

actually, you dont have the right to instigate a fight to the point where youre using it as an excuse to take your gun out. :childplease:
just bc your instigation turned into you taking an L, you dont have to fire your gun in defeat.
and after firing the gun, you turn the body over on his stomach and let him bleed out while youre trying to restrain him like the herb vigilante rent a cop you are, while being on top of him and having him die under you.

zimmerman looked for a fight....instigated a fight...started the fight...then finished him.
fukkboy should rot.
 

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zimmerman looked for a fight....instigated a fight...started the fight...then finished him.
fukkboy should rot.

I don't know that he went looking for a fight, let alone instigated one, as he seems to have a history of being a pedantic neighbourhood watchman (calling the police every two minutes), but he's certainly at fault in this case.

You start following someone, probably harass them, overstep your bounds, whatever, you've got to expect some sort of response - physical or otherwise.
 

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ur probably right

:yeshrug:


this is just an L all around for everyone involved tho. People need to both learn how to stop being fakkit snitches like Zimmerman and cats need to also learn how to not use violence as a means to solve problems like Trayvon did

Lessons should be learned from this fukkery to prevent it from ever happening again (Logic86 take note, ur snitch ways could ruin ur life b)


but to single out any one individual as a cold blooded, murdering bad guy is just being biased and ignoring the facts

look at this scenario....

lets say person A went to persons B home to purchase crack...person A wanted 100 worth, but came in with only 40 dollars and a knife in his pocket...

they make the exchange, person A walks swiftly for the door..person B notices he was shorted and runs after person A....person B slammed person A against the front door and held him there, and may have said he was going to kill him...

person B drops his right hand from around person A, allowing person A to get his knife and stab back into person B's leg...as person B is falling he is stabbed and cut some more....its medically proven that all of those wounds were non lethal....

person A sits on person B and stabs multiple times, 5 out of 6 medically ruled mortal...person B dies very quickly and person A leaves...there was no firearm found on the scene or anywhere in the home


is person A protecting himself or was that an intentional murder???
 

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I don't know that he went looking for a fight, let alone instigated one, as he seems to have a history of being a pedantic neighbourhood watchman (calling the police every two minutes), but he's certainly at fault in this case.

You start following someone, probably harass them, overstep your bounds, whatever, you've got to expect some sort of response - physical or otherwise.

looking for a fight is when he seen trayvon while getting groceries or some shyt, and then came bakk around looking for him or didnt even go to the store...whatever that half a cac said.
him following trayvon, after looking for him around the neighborhood, is instigating a potential fight....starting the fight was when he approached trayvon. dont thiink trayvon went up to a stranger out the blue who was 10 feet from him minding his own business and said "yo" :childplease:
all of zimmermans calls on prior nights were leading up to this shyt.
he saw a kid and thought he was the culprit of his older calls.
he looked (watchman)...instigated (by following)...started (by approaching trayvon in the dark) and then finished the punk he thought hed been on the tails of for months.

:yeshrug:
 

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looking for a fight is when he seen trayvon while getting groceries or some shyt, and then came bakk around looking for him or didnt even go to the store...whatever that half a cac said.

I don't know the details of the story as I've not bothered to follow it outside the first few days after it happened. I don't think coming back to check on a supposedly "suspicious" person is "looking for a fight" though. It seems like one of those run-of-the-mill things that these types (watchmen) are supposed to be doing. Either that or he's a homosexual. Shrug.

him following trayvon, after looking for him around the neighborhood, is instigating a potential fight....

Disagreed. It definitely qualifies as something along the lines of possible harassment though.

starting the fight was when he approached trayvon. dont thiink trayvon went up to a stranger out the blue who was 10 feet from him minding his own business and said "yo" :childplease:

Perhaps, but not likely. If so, you could categorize any unwanted stranger approaching you as looking for a fight. It depends on what he said and the manner in which he went over to him - if he started making demands, accusations, threatening gestures or speech, that sort of stuff.

all off zimmermans calls on prior nights were leading up to this shyt.
he saw a kid and thought he was the culprit of his older calls.
he looked (watchman)...instigated (by following)...started (by approaching trayvon in the dark) and then finished the punk he thought hed been on the tails of for months.

:yeshrug:

I didn't hear all the calls, so I can't comment on them. It goes back to what I said initially though - the whole idea of civilian "watchmen" is flawed to begin with. Particularly when they arm themselves. You can't have unidentified, plain clothes individuals running up on others to begin with. It's bound for disaster by its very nature - who wouldn't act belligerently, or at least standoffish, towards an obese slob getting in your face or whatever?

So, Zimmerman was in the wrong from the get-go, even without considering who provoked whom.
 

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IP ban this fukker...and somebody answer dat scenario that really happened
 
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