The wealthiest and most populous state of the world’s wealthiest country has 0 ICU beds remaining

[hashmander]

and is florida some kinda disaster area right now where everyone has covid? my impression is that it is not

but business isn't booming either. tourism industry is dead. downtown orlando is dead and the bar owners and food spots are saying they probably won't even be able to come back. gavin newsome didn't kill these orlando bars. like someone earlier responded to you, basically people like me killed these spots because we won't go.

 

[the cac mamba]

but business isn't booming either. tourism industry is dead. downtown orlando is dead and the bar owners and food spots are saying they probably won't even be able to come back. gavin newsome didn't kill these orlando bars. like someone earlier responded to you, basically people like me killed these spots because we won't go.

so by that logic, we dont need the government to shut them down

 

[Dreamchaser]

If we look at the unemployment rate by state we see that Florida has a unemployment rate of 6.4%, Texas has a unemployment rate of 8.1% and California has a unemployment rate of 8.2%. Given that Texas and Florida are both more open in terms of the reopening the numbers are not that different. Looking at Texas and California, it looks like California response to covid is better and the outcome in terms of unemployment is the same.
Unemployment Rates for States

 

[the cac mamba]

If we look at the unemployment rate by state we see that Florida has a unemployment rate of 6.4%, Texas has a unemployment rate of 8.1% and California has a unemployment rate of 8.2%. Given that Texas and Florida are both more open in terms of the reopening the numbers are not that different. Looking at Texas and California, it looks like California response to covid is better and the outcome in terms of unemployment is the same.
Unemployment Rates for States

what were those rates a year ago?

 

[Dreamchaser]

what were those rates a year ago?

State Employment and Unemployment Summary
Table C.

California was at 3.9% in Nov 2019, and Nov 2020 is 8.2%. A 4.3% difference from last year. Florida was at 2.8% in Nov 2019, and Nov 2020 is 6.4%. A 3.6% difference from last year. Texas was at 3.5% in Nov 2019, and Nov 2020 is 8.1%. A 4.6% difference from last year.

 

[Json]

businesses reopening didnt work because of restrictions, not because of unwillingness to patronize them

unless we're gonna embarassingly pretend that 10 months into this, rational adults cant assess their own risk and need democrat governors to do it for them

Your conflating two separate issue.

patronizing a buffet that depends on you sitting there for hours won’t work no matter if it’s takeout and sit down with no restrictions.

People have mentally checked out of the system.

Like mall’s aren’t dying because of lack of patronizing or supply. People have mentally checked out of using them to that degree. Mall closes at 8 ? I can shop Amazon 24/7

There’s a virus floating around? I’ll just take a #6 meal and leave vs a 60 dollar buffet and dessert and a margarita.

 

[the cac mamba]

Your conflating two separate issue.

patronizing a buffet that depends on you sitting there for hours won’t work no matter if it’s takeout and sit down with no restrictions.

People have mentally checked out of the system.

Like mall’s aren’t dying because of lack of patronizing or supply. People have mentally checked out of using them to that degree. Mall closes at 8 ? I can shop Amazon 24/7

There’s a virus floating around? I’ll just take a #6 meal and leave vs a 60 dollar buffet and dessert and a margarita.

i have dudes in here telling me that businesses are closing because people just arent going. which is fine, but if thats true then you dont have to force them to shut down then

just looking for some consistency

another issue is this bullshyt about wearing a mask after you're vaccinated. if the vaccine works then why would you have to wear a mask after you get it to keep up appearances?

 

[the cac mamba]

California now has the worst COVID-19 spread in US

 

[Json]

another issue is this bullshyt about wearing a mask after you're vaccinated. if the vaccine works then why would you have to wear a mask after you get it to keep up appearances?

Vaccines don’t stop you from spreading or catching it. Stops you from getting severely ill. Your body is stopped from being tricked into fighting it incorrectly.

Like the difference between a cure and a treatment.

You can treat an StD. Still means you have it and need to wear a condom.

If you cure it. You can still catch it again. Wear a condom

 

[Json]

i have dudes in here telling me that businesses are closing because people just arent going. which is fine, but if thats true then you dont have to force them to shut down then

just looking for some consistency

That’s not what they are telling you. They are telling you people aren’t going not just because of the restrictions. They don’t feel safe.

Just because you can find people partying in ATL. Doesn’t mean every club in ATL is jammed packed every night.


The problem with your scenario is that even without the restrictions the businesses would still suffer. You talk about 70year olds being the bulk of victims...

You still want to fly Delta win 70 year olds are coughing without mask and dying on planes retweeted across social media?

How appetizing is seeing a 70 year lying on the floor of a Denny’s gasping for air on Facebook live?

The air is coming out of the balloon no matter what

 

[the cac mamba]

Vaccines don’t stop you from spreading or catching it.

gimme a break

 

[88m3]

You guys really let one person derail the thread

 

[mc_brew]

You guys really let one person derail the thread

that's what i was thinking from page one....

 

[AZBeauty]

DeSantis had the house raided of the woman reporting covid infections in FL. I guarantee a lot of these states are playing with their numbers too make it look like infections arent as high as they are. Then you see a dr from the area on CNN crying about the spread.

 

[Json]

gimme a break

Polio vaccine 1955

Last domestic polio case was 1979

24 years