The Weeknd could be a star if he wasn't so weird

[dora_da_destroyer]

Mainstream RnB is garbage because it's suffering from an identity crisis- artists think they're rappers or sing over trap beats or some wack ass Euro pop. The Weeknd is good right now- he's creating his own lane which isn't straight down the line RnB but could possibly be an evolution of it. Wicked Game's got Jodeci's DNA all over it, no homo.



Let's be honest- R Kelly, Donell, Joe, etc are all legends in the genre but they never really pushed the sound forward and the genre got stagnant and stale which is why we're seeing all this wack ass shyt now with David Guetta on it. Neptunes and Timbo were game changers but were irrelevant for 5 plus years.

People shytting on the new material but Kissland and John Carpenter are two of the best songs he's ever done

R Kelly never pushed the genre? Dude, along with jodeci brought thugged out r&b to the forefront, Kells mastered so many sounds for himself and other artists, dude wrote songs that check every box....Kells did a lot to keep the music flowing, he only "fell off" when he went back to a traditional sound for the grown folks, shows how much young people don't value soul music.

 

[RAX 010]

He/she will be

Long live coke babies.

Not coke but my girl smoked loud while she was preggers

 

[SunZoo]

Not coke but my girl smoked loud while she was preggers

You good my nikka the bud equalized everything

 

[Jards]

R Kelly never pushed the genre? Dude, along with jodeci brought thugged out r&b to the forefront, Kells mastered so many sounds for himself and other artists, dude wrote songs that check every box....Kells did a lot to keep the music flowing, he only "fell off" when he went back to a traditional sound for the grown folks, shows how much young people don't value soul music.

I'm talking in recent times and by you stating Kells going back to the "traditional sound" as being the reason for his irrelevance right now, you're basically agreeing with me. Kells and Jodeci to me are the best to ever do it in RnB (not talking about RnB in the sense of Al Green, Syl Johnson, etc- that's another genre and topic) just because of the way they pushed the boundaries in the early and late 90s. But Jodeci have been irrelevant for over a decade because they couldn't keep up with the times and Kells has been irrelevant for damn near half a decade because as you've stated, he's regressed back to his old sound as he's run out of ideas and it's done no favours for him.

People shytting on The Weeknd's voice (which aint that bad, not nearly as bad as Frank Ocean's) but what separates the Weeknd from the rest of these fukk boys in RnB is the songwriting. No one else in RnB ain't writing songs like that nikka the same way that it was the song writing that put Jodeci and Kells on another level from everyone else in the 90s.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I'm talking in recent times and by you stating Kells going back to the "traditional sound" as being the reason for his irrelevance right now, you're basically agreeing with me. Kells and Jodeci to me are the best to ever do it in RnB (not talking about RnB in the sense of Al Green, Syl Johnson, etc- that's another genre and topic) just because of the way they pushed the boundaries in the early and late 90s. But Jodeci have been irrelevant for over a decade because they couldn't keep up with the times and Kells has been irrelevant for damn near half a decade because as you've stated, he's regressed back to his old sound as he's run out of ideas and it's done no favours for him.

People shytting on The Weeknd's voice (which aint that bad, not nearly as bad as Frank Ocean's) but what separates the Weeknd from the rest of these fukk boys in RnB is the songwriting. No one else in RnB ain't writing songs like that nikka the same way that it was the song writing that put Jodeci and Kells on another level from everyone else in the 90s.

Kells didn't go back to his original sound (i.e. 12 play, r kelly, etc), he went back to a more soulful sound from the past, and it's not because he couldn't think of anything else, it was pretty much his attempt at appeasing the critics by "growing up" (remember people shytted on him for Double Up even tho it had slappers on it) as well as catering to his older fans and Chicago roots - those who enjoy stepping and whatnot. Write Me Back has great soul songs, but if it ain't making your ass jiggle, it's like people under 25 (even 30) won't listen.

Real singing and LOVE (not sex misic and not i'm/you're cheating anthems) songs are something this generation is missing and what I think is contributing to the fukked up views the sexes have of each other as well as the lack of respect for relationships....but that's a whole different topic.

 

[Jards]

Kells didn't go back to his original sound (i.e. 12 play, r kelly, etc), he went back to a more soulful sound from the past, and it's not because he couldn't think of anything else, it was pretty much his attempt at appeasing the critics by "growing up" (remember people shytted on him for Double Up even tho it had slappers on it) as well as catering to his older fans and Chicago roots - those who enjoy stepping and whatnot. Write Me Back has great soul songs, but if it ain't making your ass jiggle, it's like people under 25 (even 30) won't listen.

Real singing and LOVE (not sex misic and not i'm/you're cheating anthems) songs are something this generation is missing and what I think is contributing to the fukked up views the sexes have of each other as well as the lack of respect for relationships....but that's a whole different topic.

That's the point though- at some point he stopped being the dude that was pushing the genre forward and became the guy trying to keep up with what the young dudes were doing. This is why the critics were shytting on him. Remember 'Playa's only'? Kells being the genius that he is should've been able to grow with his music and stay pushing the boundries.

I mean the last album Write Me Back had some tracks but what the fukk is this shyt?!



Can't believe this is the same dude that wrote Dedicated, Down Low, 12 Play album, etc

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

That's the point though- at some point he stopped being the dude that was pushing the genre forward and became the guy trying to keep up with what the young dudes were doing. This is why the critics were shytting on him. Remember 'Playa's only'? Kells being the genius that he is should've been able to grow with his music and stay pushing the boundries.

I mean the last album Write Me Back had some tracks but what the fukk is this shyt?!



Can believe this is the same dude that wrote Dedicated, Down Low, 12 Play album, etc

It's clearly an ode to that doo-wop era, Raphael saddiq did the same a couple albums ago and Bruno mars makes songs that sound like that and sells a million records, yet Kells does it and it's a problem. It may not be your cup of tea, but IMO its Kells paying homage to those old sounds that birthed soul and r&b

 

[Jards]

It's clearly an ode to that doo-wop era, Raphael saddiq did the same a couple albums ago and Bruno mars makes songs that sound like that and sells a million records, yet Kells does it and it's a problem. It may not be your cup of tea, but IMO its Kells paying homage to those old sounds that birthed soul and r&b

Yeah I respect that and that's cool for Bruno Mars and them nikkas but that ain't what I wanna hear from R fukking Kelly, especially as lyrically, it's fukking trash.

Also agree with your point that their should be more balance between love and sex songs but let's not act like these dudes weren't some of the first dudes to take there by being that overtly sexual:

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[tremonthustler1]

OVO has never put out an artist. If you have any buzz it would be dumb to pass on a major deal to sign with a subsidiary label that has never put out an artist.

It's a new label that's under a major label. It's not like the Weeknd woulda been on some nothing label. That's like saying why would anyone sign under MMG. it's the exact same setup

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

It's a new label that's under a major label. It's not like the Weeknd woulda been on some nothing label. That's like saying why would anyone sign under MMG. it's the exact same setup

At 1 point in time BWS had distribution from Capitol records yet Game still never put anyone out. CTE was distributed by Def Jam but a nikka would be a fool to sign with them even in their prime instead of a label like Jive.

 

[tremonthustler1]

At 1 point in time BWS had distribution from Capitol records yet Game still never put anyone out. CTE was distributed by Def Jam but a nikka would be a fool to sign with them even in their prime instead of a label like Jive.

Some labels pan out. Some don't. The Weeknd's on a label that we don't even know will pan out long term either (XO). That remains to be seen. I'm not even saying The Weeknd shoulda signed with Drake, but had he done so, it would have been way too premature to think he was fukking up. At the very least, his association with Drake was helping him. We'll see how PartyNextDoor does going forward since he is signed to OVO.

 

[RAX 010]

You good my nikka the bud equalized everything

Thx Dr SunZoo

 

[ThatKidBlackHippy]

The Weeknd is dope as fukk. I get that he is hit or miss to some but everything about his music is piff to me.

Music is subjective brehs, can't please everyone. But of course this is The Coli so everything is either the best thing ever or the worst.

 

[ChieferSutherland]

That mysterious aura about him is what draws a lot of people to look him up/give him a listen

 

[SuburbanPimp]

That mysterious aura about him is what draws a lot of people to look him up/give him a listen

I agree with this.... Even more so before anyone had seen any pics of him and stuff.

His music is already unique as is. But the fact that he isn'tt an attention whore and trying to do interviews and trying be all over somebody's blog is refreshing..