Who Wins the WC?

  • France

    Votes: 60 21.8%
  • Germany

    Votes: 47 17.1%
  • Brazil

    Votes: 71 25.8%
  • Argentina

    Votes: 24 8.7%
  • Spain

    Votes: 12 4.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 52 18.9%
  • Ronaldo & Friends

    Votes: 9 3.3%

  • Total voters
    275
  • Poll closed .

Clapsteel O'Neal

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Oh look, a goal by Luca Modric, the actual best player in this game.

nikka ONLY 5? You do realize 6 goals has been enough to win the WC Golden Boot 11 times?

5 goals in a World Cup is a HUGE amount. You just told me someone scored a third of their entire teams output and it somehow isn't herculean?

And how much do you think it opens up opportunities for other players when one of their teammates is scoring at a rate that puts them in the 1% of World Cup goal scorers? :jbhmm:

Not to mention two of those goals are two of the most clutch solo efforts in the history of the game. :wow:

Stop caping for this dude.

I get it. FIFA '09 and Pepsi commercials told you he was the GOAT. The CL goals seemed to confirm this. But unless the dude is related to you, you gotta call a spade a spade.

If the roles were reversed and Ronaldo regularly was invisible for his national team as they won nothing for a decade and Messi was a one man army carrying them to a Copa America and scoring clutch hat tricks you wouldn't be doing ANY of these gymnastics.

Facts.
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ARG doesn't have the defensive cover or a talented enough or intelligent enough middle of the park to do ANY of that.
That's because as Ronaldo has gotten older he's accepted his limitations and plays primarily as the most forward player allowing ten men to organize behind him. Ronaldo can roam without disturbing the shape of his team. Messi can only be deployed in the middle so his limitations cripple team selection and their very way of playing. It takes a VERY carefully thought out and drilled system to work out a black hole the middle of your side.

Argentina's struggles with Messi are the EXACT reason the trequartista role is extinct.

If Messi would commit to playing as a winger (and keeping his width) or was capable of playing as a striker (not a false 9, don't have the ability to set up that complex a system for international play) Argentina could adapt.

But instead, because of him they play a 20 year old brand of football. It is what it is.

Watch any game where Argentina loses and you'll see an overrun midfield. Yes, that's his fault.
 

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Oh look, a goal by Luca Modric, the actual best player in this game.

nikka ONLY 5? You do realize 6 goals has been enough to win the WC Golden Boot 11 times?

5 goals in a World Cup is a HUGE amount. You just told me someone scored a third of their entire teams output and it somehow isn't herculean?

And how much do you think it opens up opportunities for other players when one of their teammates is scoring at a rate that puts them in the 1% of World Cup goal scorers? :jbhmm:

33% of your teams goals is very impressive. He of course opened up opportunities for his teammates to score based on him being the center of attention. Maradona did some incredible things in that World Cup. He scored 5 goals with one of those goals being the most infamous goal of all time and one that shouldn't have counted.

2014 Messi scored 4 out of his teams 7 goals. 57% of his teams goals. Are you going to say scoring 57% of your teams goals isn't even more herculean? He and Mascherano pretty much dragged their team to final. He didn't score in the final and lead his team to victory, but if we are being honest. Maradona didn't exactly score a goal in the final either.
 
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