Who Wins the WC?

  • France

    Votes: 60 21.8%
  • Germany

    Votes: 47 17.1%
  • Brazil

    Votes: 71 25.8%
  • Argentina

    Votes: 24 8.7%
  • Spain

    Votes: 12 4.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 52 18.9%
  • Ronaldo & Friends

    Votes: 9 3.3%

  • Total voters
    275
  • Poll closed .

Roid Jones

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I'm gonna walk back something I've said in this topic.

Arg has a SUBSTANTIALLY worse team than Portugal this WC. At the BARE minimum CR7 has William, Pepe and Moutinho and Patricio. Not much but its something.

With this 11 Messi has literally no one...and quite possibly the WORST team of all the big countries. I could plop Iceland's midfield into this ARG side and they'd top the group :russ:


Maradona also was coked out of his mind and hand-balled a goal. BUT you can make the argument...and that's not good for Messi's legacy.

Bernardo will walk into this Argentina team
 

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How many WC finals has Ronaldo been to? :jbhmm:

Well how many has he won oh yh the same as Ronaldo

I never knew being the loser in a final was celebrated

Answer me this how many regional championships has he won cause Ronaldo has one. Messi has ???
 

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Lol what does even mean tho

Argentina would be better if they dropped Messi?
It means a player of a specific talent that doesn't possess all the abilities a complete player at his position should provide. Pirlo, the wonderful passing midfielder who can't defend, a luxury player.

Messi, the fantastic dribbler and finisher who can't pass from long, doesn't track back, doesn't hold his position, doesn't defend. A luxury player.

You'd gain more as a team from a player who can/is willing to do the things Messi can't/won't do than you'd lose from a dribbler/passer. You'd be able to play an actual midfield, and your attacking players would have clearly defined and infinitely more freedom not playing "sit around, watch what Messi does, and try to respond to it somehow".

Messi is successful in an intensely drilled system that features players coached from teenage years to be cogs in it. Argentina has struggled his entire career trying to be Barcelona so Messi can be Messi.

That's not how national teams work. You don't have time, or the roster ability to make shyt work. You have to do whatever works best for you. When Messi is gone Argentina will be able to do that again and yes, they'll be better.
 

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Is this a reference to when Messi was carried to a final and fumbled? :jbhmm:

Ronaldo carries his team, only other good thing to come out of Portugal is cod fish, even still he bagged an Euro. Messi with a star studded supporting cast and still nada

Messi got carried? :heh:

Are we not forgetting Higuain’s bytch ass lost Argentina 3 straight finals.


I really don’t do this CR7 vs Messi shyt because it’s pointless. It’s not like the LeBron vs Kobe. At least we all know Bron is miles ahead of Kobe.

Here, were are witnessing two players that we will most likely never see in our lifetime.

Neymar you say? That bytch ass c00n is a skinny frail mofo that would get destroyed in the premier league :russ:

It’s sad if neither ever win a WC. At least Pele and Maradona got their pieces.
 

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I can’t say for Maradona but even so there are times when that Portugal team looks clueless and very dependent on CR7.

The difference is that Argentina has top players like Arguero, Di Maria, Higuaín, Mascherano and can’t help out.


They all rely on Messi :wow:

Didnt Portugal win the Euro with Ronaldo on the bench?

I would love for anyone to tell me what this Argentina team would win without Messi. I usually don't get involved in the stan battles because they're both all timers, but people are retarded if you think anyone can carry this team anywhere.
 
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