The worse thing to happen to black music is the reluctance to sample

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

Hip hop got away with it for years. And it made for great music. BUT, sampling is all but dead now. My fear is that it will make all of the classics from years past obsolete. And lets be honest the late 50's to late 70's was KILLING this era musically. You are going to have people grow up and completely forget about dope artist like The Stylistics, Temptations, The O'Jays, Earth Wind & Fire, The Isley Brothers, Curtis Mayfield, Issac Hayes, etc...only to site wack ass dudes like Gucci Mane, Future, hell most R&B Artist,and Rap Artist as inspiration for there music, while the old school heads who made great music, get forgotten.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

There is a very good reason artists are now reluctant to sample: $$$$$​

The actual problem is a lack of musical ability. If these artists could actually play instruments themselves, they could do an interpolation of an old track without having to pay exorbitant royalties to the original artist.

That's how Afrika Bambaataa made this @ :46.....



......by copying this @ 1:33

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[VICVALLIN]

black music's willingness to sample is was what kills to me. learn how to play a fukkin instrument.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

black music's willingness to sample is was what kills to me. learn how to play a fukkin instrument.

I'm sayin'. Have you seen what you can do with a bass guitar and today's technology?



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[Mr. Negative]

the worst thing to happen to black music is it's failure to draw inspiration from anything other than black music that's less than 6 years old.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Blame Biz Markie.​

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

I'm sayin'. Have you seen what you can do with a bass guitar and today's technology?



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I DON'T fukk WITH DUBSTEP LIKE THAT BUT THAT'S KINDA ILL.

REMINDS ME OF HOW THE RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE GUITARIST WOULD DO SOME CRAZY STUFF WITH THE GUITAR.

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

TOM MORELLO




THIS GUY IS A BEAST WITH A GUITAR

 

[karim]

There is a very good reason artists are now reluctant to sample: $$$$$​

The actual problem is a lack of musical ability. If these artists could actually play instruments themselves, they could do an interpolation of an old track without having to pay exorbitant royalties to the original artist.

That's how Afrika Bambaataa made this @ :46.....



......by copying this @ 1:33

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it has nothing to do with muical ability. You can't play all the instruments, so what you do is you get session musicians to play them. That costs money for the musicians and the recording and the mixing process. Just Blaze used to do it but he had big budgets. If you don't do it this way but with a computer you get a different sound. Sampling is an artform, and the worst thing that happened to black music are twofold:
1) record companies charging and arm and a leg for clearance
2) idiots who follow the racist argument that sampling somehow isn't an art and judt talentless (black) people stealing music.

DJ Premier is a trained musician bur he chooses to sample because he loves the arr form.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

it has nothing to do with muical ability. You can't play all the instruments, so what you do is you get session musicians to play them.

Breh, at this stage in the game, all you need is musical ability, one instrument, a bit of loot, and some creativity. The tech will supply the rest....



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[observe]

It's a alot of new jack producers that don't know how to dig or buy any sampling drum machines..I don't even think they cop hardware like synths and shyt..there'd rather just do that shyt via some music making program on the laptop..I don't understand it..if I was making beats heavily, I would want to learn all about hardware down to the specs..I do have a motif 6, and some other sound modules but I haven't made beats in years...yeah you can replay an original sample to get away with it, but fools don't even dig enough to even find out what to replay..you also can get away with sampling if you're a no name rapper/beatmaker, cuz record companies won't trip if you're under the radar, but as soon as you start blowing then they have sample clearance firms to help you from getting sued..it's pretty easy that way..but fools still sample in the underground...doesn't matter to me..if they made a dope beat on fruity loops or on a MPC...as long as I like it who cares.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

I totally disagre with the title of this thread. It makes absolutley no sense. Sampling is cool at times but the beauty of the art of producing/making beats is the art of creating a unique sound.

Making a beat from absolute scratch that nobody has heard of is where true creativity lies.

Think about it. When you first heard Manny Fresh's production on Juveniles 400 Degreez. Or when you heard Swizz beatz' production on DMX's "Its Dark and He'll is hot" or "Flesh of my flesh" or Timbalands early production on Aalyiah, Missy, Ginuwine and Playas albums.

We had never heard anything like that. They weren't using samples. Now adays you don't need to know how to play a musical instrument to make hot beats. There are 15 and 16 yr old kids with 'Garage Band' and 'pro tools' that are creating dope shyt on a laptop and have beats on bilboard. So sampling isn't realy a necessity

 

[karim]

I totally disagre with the title of this thread. It makes absolutley no sense. Sampling is cool at times but the beauty of the art of producing/making beats is the art of creating a unique sound.

Making a beat from absolute scratch that nobody has heard of is where true creativity lies.

Think about it. When you first heard Manny Fresh's production on Juveniles 400 Degreez. Or when you heard Swizz beatz' production on DMX's "Its Dark and He'll is hot" or "Flesh of my flesh" or Timbalands early production on Aalyiah, Missy, Ginuwine and Playas albums.

We had never heard anything like that. They weren't using samples. Now adays you don't need to know how to play a musical instrument to make hot beats. There are 15 and 16 yr old kids with 'Garage Band' and 'pro tools' that are creating dope shyt on a laptop and have beats on bilboard. So sampling isn't realy a necessity

you don't know what you are talking about. timbaland samples heavily, the sound of it's dark and hell is hot relies heavily on samples and dame grease was the producer who mainly signed resonsible for it. swizz beats at the time didn't even know what he was doing productionwise. all he produced on that album was ruff ryders anthem and that beat is simple as fukk, just like most of the rest of the stuff he was doing at the time. he became successful because ruff ryders blackballed dame grease and pushed swizz, because he was managed by them and every beat he sold meant more money for them. i don't know enough about manny fresh to comment on his beats, i know back that azz up, and to be honest, while it's a great recornd,the sound of it isn't really great.

 

[Mass]

Sampling, is awesome.
And a good mix of sampled records and non sampled records on an album is a seriously potent mix.

 

[kingdizzy01]

for some muthafukkas on a hip hop board, looks like some of yall dont know what hip hop is. guitars are cool n all but...