The Xbox One will not RROD, The PS4 still can tho!!!

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Lets clear this up. The Xbox original never had any RROD/DRE/Any issues.
The X360 came out, and the launch systems didn't have proper heat sinks in them and that caused them to overheat
Once they came out with newer version the RROD issue went away.
So now we move onto the next gen, and Microsoft wants to make sure that doesn't happen again
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-why-xbox-one-is-cool-and-quiet
Inside sources at Microsoft have spoken to Digital Foundry about why the Xbox One hardware is so large, and what the tangible benefits of the larger footprint are for the user.

Our information suggests the Xbox One design is based on an ambitious brief, essentially impossible to test in anything resembling real-life conditions, and so the company played it safe, putting unit reliability first. A highly placed source says that the console has been designed with a ten-year lifecycle in mind and that it is designed to be switched on for that entire period.

What's more, during that time it needs to operate almost silently in order to earn its place in the living room. It's a unique hardware challenge, and so the company opted for a large design where heat dissipation comes first. Microsoft's engineers are also aware that the company's reputation for quality hardware is still in the balance after the Red Ring of Death Xbox 360 build quality fiasco, which cost the company over a billion dollars.

The net result is a relatively voluminous piece of console hardware, which may take up a fair amount of room in the lounge but has tangible benefits for gamers to make up for its imposing presence.

Microsoft has not released any official specifications on the dimensions of the final box, but extrapolating from the sizes of known components (principally the USB port), Xbox One is approximately 34x26x8cm - more set-top box than console, and noticeably larger than the launch version of the Xbox 360.

Despite the near-final hardware present at E3, the conditions made it impossible for the any kind of audio testing to be carried out on-site, but developers working with the hardware tell us that in its idle and low-activity states, the unit is entirely silent and you can barely feel any heat being output from the unit's vents.

Indeed, we're told by one development source that prototype versions of the hardware - which use the same chassis as the final retail unit - didn't have working power lights, and that it was almost impossible to tell whether the console was in operation or not unless it was hooked up to a display. It's a claim we're looking forward to testing when we're hands-on with the console.

"Developers working with the hardware tell us that in its idle and low-activity states, the unit is entirely silent and that you can barely feel any heat being output from the unit's exhaust vents."


Wired's photography of the Xbox One internals shows that airflow won't be a problem. Clearly some level of investment has gone into the cooling assembly for the AMD processor - the fan seems to be almost as large as the slot-loading Blu-ray drive.

Our sources say that Xbox One is expected to remain almost entirely silent in standby and during its media functions, with fan noise only noticeable during gaming when the AMD processor is really being put through its paces.

Even here, we should prepare for a much more pleasant aural experience compared to the current-gen consoles - and not just because the optical drive will be inactive during gameplay. Wired's internal photography of the Xbox One (above) reveals a decent-quality heat sink (note the copper heat pipes) and a relatively large fan. The larger the blades of the fan, the slower they need to spin in order to displace the same amount of air as a smaller fan, meaning a quieter unit.

Also consider the technological make-up of the AMD processor. The closest match we have in terms of PC hardware to the Xbox One graphics core is the Radeon HD 7790, which draws 85W at peak. The Xbox One version runs at lower frequencies and has two fewer compute units. AMD's Jaguar CPU architecture is also highly energy efficient - it's designed with tablets in mind. Even factoring in the DDR3, ESRAM and custom silicon, we should expect see a complete system power draw that's a world away from the 'power at all costs' approach to the launch versions of the Xbox 360 and PS3, which used in the region of 170-200W.

To illustrate just how far power efficiency has come since the current-gen consoles arrived, our [URL='http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-can-xbox-one-multi-platform-games-compete-with-ps4']"target Xbox One" PC test rig
with an overclocked 4.3GHz i7 and underclocked Radeon HD 7850, consumed 220-230W playing Crysis 3.

Perhaps the Xbox One's power efficiency sounds too good to be true, especially when rumours not so long ago painted a very different picture of hot and loud Durango development hardware. Our sources concur that the February/March dev kits were indeed very loud indeed, but it wasn't due to over-heating - quite the opposite in fact. The thermal control algorithm - which monitors the heat output of the major chips on the motherboard and adjusts fan speed accordingly - simply wasn't implemented in the developing OS, and so to avoid damaging the hardware, the fans were set to 100 per cent all the time. This was resolved by a software update back in March that brought Xbox One to its current stealth-like state, and our understanding is that final development hardware - which is a complete match for retail silicon - started rolling out to developers early in July and remains extremely quiet.

The ASCII-inspired Durango logo you see on this page - which presents when the development hardware boots - has been swapped out for the Xbox One logo in the new development hardware, accompanied by a very 360-like animation. The launcher screen you see here has also changed beyond recognition.

"Our understanding is that final Xbox One development hardware - which is a complete match for retail silicon - started rolling out to developers early in July."

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A sneak peek at the launcher screen from an Xbox One (then 'Durango') dev kit, with a couple of edits to anonymise the image. We see account sign-in, settings and account picker options alongside Internet Explorer. The less obvious selectables are for the Pixie performance analysis tool and a bunch of Kinect stuff. These consist of what is probably a firmware update for the camera, the general debug NuiView which displays the various Kinect feeds and finally VgbView which shows camera inputs and skeletal tracking.

Meanwhile, the background Xbox One software is nearing completion, and one of the key goals is making gameplay extremely fast to access. In an internal post-mortem of the Xbox 360 that helped shape the direction of Xbox One, one of the key problems Microsoft engineers wanted to address was the lack of immediacy in current-gen console gameplay, where even the most family-friendly titles can take up to three minutes to load. A key plus point mobile games hold over console is the speed with which casual users can play, and it's an advantage that next-gen console is going to have trouble competing with.

Despite moving away from optical discs and onto hard drive for games, filling up multiple gigs with data is still going to take time. We're told that addressing load times is a key concern, but another approach is to retain game states in RAM while the unit is inactive, similar to the way that you can return to a PS Vita game days after you last played it. The entire contents of the memory are preserved, and the unit wakes up immediately, allowing you to dive back into the game.

It's an approach that PS4 also utilises, but our Microsoft sources genuinely believe that the TV integration elements set it apart, and that once you have experienced what it's capable of you can never go back. Instant restart is a key feature, but in the here and now we can't help remaining unconvinced about the focus on the TV integration elements of the Xbox One operating system.

Our sources suggest that internally there is a great deal of frustration within Microsoft that the message about instant access never got across, and that the focus now is on Gamescom in August to get it right.
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Continued from above

Now with sony, its history has been MUCH MORE JADED. and I want anyone who doesn't know this to learn it
PS1 would die on you after 2yrs, you had to put the system on its side or upside down to work. Worst system failure rate ever at the time.

PS2 then drops, and more than half the systems where I worked didn't work straight out of the box. The biggest issue at launch was the disc drives not recognizing DVD. Games at launch was on CD and DVD. Tekken Tag Tournament was a launch title, and that shyt didn't work for me. With the thought that ppl didn't need warranties for consoles at this time, sony didn't offer the mandatory 1 year warranty systems of today come with. So imagine buying a ps2, not having a warranty, bringing it home, and that bytch doesn't work :wow:
This happened to TENS OF THOUSANDS OF GAMERS if not more. Sony knew of this, but waited til late 2005 to acknowledge this. By this time, who still had a faulty system? They either moved on, or bought another one. Sony said they'll fix your broken system or give you $25. You think I'm lying?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-settles-ps2-class-action-suit-6139482

So when the PS3 dropped, they couldn't do that again obviously. But since I peeped how they rolled last gen I figured they would make sure PS3's would last a year or two. Not 10yrs like they claimed. Low and behold, every PS3 fanboy on this site had to pay an additional $150 to have there system fixed. They had to choose whether they wanted to keep there launch Backwards compatible system, or take a deal on a slime system, but you still had to pay $100+
Oh, and they taking Other OS away as well :wow: PSN they take down for 2months, and then 7months after that they claim they "lost the keys" to the entire online network :what: How can anyone lose the keys as they said? Thats the company you wanna trust?

Ok, so now we move to the PS4. I just posted a long article detailing how the next box will not RROD.
I have yet to see this same detail showing of how the PS4 won't YLOD. Or how PSN has improved even tho they charging now
No word whatsoever?

Until they start talking, you can't trust sony. You can't. You can be a fanboy and blindly support them. But if you are a real gamer? You have to have questions, concerns. Have they shown anything? Maybe I missed it?
If they did, please post it in this thread. I don't want to spread false info about sony's lack of fukks given :yeshrug:
 

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No one told MS to hire the intern hardware engineers instead of experienced folk. Ballmer cheap ass know he can do better.

:laff: @ MS hardware lasting 10 years.

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No one told MS to hire the intern hardware engineers instead of experienced folk. Ballmer cheap ass know he can do better.

:laff: @ MS hardware lasting 10 years.

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We all know :umad: but would you like to speak on this threads topic?
They go into great detail and all you did was look at a "picture" and copy n paste that. You didn't even read the article :wow:
So you choose to be ignorant on this subject matter. How about PS4, you wanna talk about how that system won't overheat or are you content being just as ignorant on that subject as you are on most subjects video game related :leon:
(less than 2min later this fool posting pics from the article, proof he didn't read it :laff: )
 
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