There ain't much money in the Music Industry anymore.

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That's what happens when you make disposable music you can't tour with:yeshrug:

Who is going to put money into making legit albums when people aren’t going to pay for it? How are the musicians supposed to get paid? If the artists aren’t seeing anything from music sales then you know damn well the drummers, horns, and guitar players ain’t seeing anything at all.

That’s important because if you listen to how a lot of hits from back in the day were made they were made because the band was always together and they would just be playing random shyt together until something caught someone’s ear.

There is no cohesion in the music industry today. They just fly in a bunch of people for a week long camp, throw a bunch of crap at the wall, then everyone goes in their merry way again. Unless the artists themselves are great at producing and writing their own music you won’t see sustained greatness anymore.
 
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is it really that much different than it’s ever been?


I mean most bands in the 60s weren’t putting up Beatles numbers and money

And in the 90s most bands weren’t doing Nirvana or Alice In Chains numbers.

Were there a lot of rappers doing 50/Nelly numbers back in the day?

Most of them were settling for the middle, and if they got a hit or two in their discography they were chillin :manny:

Streamers and TikTok stars have taken the youth attention away from music stars.

This ADHD dopamine generation is toast.
 

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They are clamping down on everything now.
They don't want you to have money unless they can control you.

We're going back to a world where resources are more important.
Money is just an illusion that's controlled by the bankers.
Conspiracy babble bullshyt.
 

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Who is going to put money into making legit albums when people aren’t going to pay for it? How are the musicians supposed to get paid? If the artists aren’t seeing anything from music sales then you know damn well the drummers, horns, and guitar players ain’t seeing anything at all.

That’s important because if you listen to how a lot of hits from back in the day were made they were made because the band was always together and they would just be playing random shyt together until something caught someone’s ear.

There is no cohesion in the music industry today. They just fly in a bunch of people for a week long camp, through a bunch of crap at the wall, then everyone goes in their merry way again. Unless the artists themselves are great at producing and writing their own music you won’t see sustained greatness anymore.
Nobody will pay for choirs or orchestras, live players without a budget. Even song writers. The music will keep getting worse
 

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That's what happens when you make disposable music you can't tour with:yeshrug:
This, also most people never made money in music trying to be famous, because there is little room at the top. You can still make money in music but you need to make good music people will want to replay and also be realistic about how much your particular genre will make you and what skill set you have that determines your ceiling.
 

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Who is going to put money into making legit albums when people aren’t going to pay for it? How are the musicians supposed to get paid? If the artists aren’t seeing anything from music sales then you know damn well the drummers, horns, and guitar players ain’t seeing anything at all.

That’s important because if you listen to how a lot of hits from back in the day were made they were made because the band was always together and they would just be playing random shyt together until something caught someone’s ear.

There is no cohesion in the music industry today. They just fly in a bunch of people for a week long camp, through a bunch of crap at the wall, then everyone goes in their merry way again. Unless the artists themselves are great at producing and writing their own music you won’t see sustained greatness anymore.
We don't need the industry for greatness, music is as cheap to make as ever, I discover so many people everyday on social media making their own cohesive albums and they even engineer and mix on their own and it sounds excellent, we needed to stop relying on the industry because it controls too much of what people like and what the artists do
 

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1. Social media from YouTube, twitter, facebook, tik tok has allowed people to become they own a&r, marketing and artist so who need the loan predators of labels..even though the music suck overall because so much trash is being put out here today

2. When it comes to rap music, the white and Latino audience unlike years before isn’t buying that shyt anymore like they use to

3. Who need a record store anymore.. u can hear everyone music that just released within a few hours on any platform… hell the coli will upload that shyt in a second

And overall rap and rnb today is over saturated with trash and no growth and these nikkas don’t love the music, it’s a quick money grab and a nikka in Cleveland, Milwaukee, etc etc is sounding like a nikka in Atlanta and a nikka in Jacksonville is sounding like a nikka in Chicago..

No creativity at all anymore

Movies the same way
 

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Musicians being millionaires is an anomaly of the 20th century. :yeshrug:


If you wanna be mega rich, go start a business



Same thing actors will be going through soon when tech catches up with them.

It will be like what life was like before performances could be recorded. You can do ok, you just won't be super rich ... and that's ok.
 

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I don’t see how this debatable.

In 90’s R&B you had Boys II Men, Jodeci, Whitney, Janet, Prince, En Vogue, BBV, Aaliyah, Brandy, Guy, I can keep going… it was absolutely stacked.

Yet during this time mid act like Soul For Real in the 90’s peaked at no 23 on the Billboard 200 and still sold plat.

And this is just one genre. :damn:

Meanwhile acts like Sexy Red who have had hit songs in the current day can’t sell platinum.



Music had a grip on American culture for the longest. A lot of this is before my time but if you study you’ll the culture is night and day. In the 70’s they had so many music shows on tv: American Band Stand, Soul Train, Solid Gold, Sonny and Cher Comedy Hour, Midnight Special, all this shyt. Jackson Five were so popular they had their own cartoon. Music was that entrenched into culture.

Remember 106 and Park or TRL? Bro. Music RAN shyt. There is no modern comparison for how much music moved culture back then.
I think people don’t realize this. I mean I look up old music all the time and get shocked at how many popular songs from back in the day didn’t go number 1. People be expecting every song and album to go number 1… in an era where there’s too many artists and not enough money to go around.
 

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We don't need the industry for greatness, music is as cheap to make as ever, I discover so many people everyday on social media making their own cohesive albums and they even engineer and mix on their own and it sounds excellent, we needed to stop relying on the industry because it controls too much of what people like and what the artists do



The industry is what gets your song placed played on stations in multiple markets from coast to coast, all that marketing exists for a reason ... so much music now is just out there and exists.
 

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We don't need the industry for greatness, music is as cheap to make as ever, I discover so many people everyday on social media making their own cohesive albums and they even engineer and mix on their own and it sounds excellent, we needed to stop relying on the industry because it controls too much of what people like and what the artists do

What genre are you taking about. Cause that 1 person doing every damn thing music is unsustainable type of music I am taking about.

I’m so tired of these so called R&B artists oversinging on simple chord progressions and looped drums.

The musicians need to be brought back into the loop!
 

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The industry is what gets your song placed played on stations in multiple markets from coast to coast, all that marketing exists for a reason ... so much music now is just out there and exists.
But we've seen time and time again the industry is more detrimental the moment you don't become star status and is just another psyop to make people think we need big corporations to make our "dreams" come true when we really need community.
 
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