There are discussions about a possible Brand Split within WWE

[sid the kid]

They've done it before effectively. Even last year, they had simultaneous tours and still managed to put together an entertaining show even with many people missing.

No, they've actually never done it effectively. They're incompetent when it comes to booking brand splits/invasion angles.

 

[sid the kid]

Except the third hour always has a drastic drop and last week had one of the biggest drops in the history of the 3 hour Raw format.

Who said anything about it declining to 1 million? With so many people upset about Roman being in the spotlight and Cena being MIA, I expect some drastic declines in the post-Wrestlemania season.

I can see you're quite the idiot.

No hour of Raw will ever drop to 1 million viewers and even if it did, it would take years upon years of eroding away their audience. I mean, it took them 15 years to cut their audience in half. What you're talking about it cutting the audience by 66%.

 

[mrken12]

I can see you're quite the idiot.

No hour of Raw will ever drop to 1 million viewers and even if it did, it would take years upon years of eroding away their audience. I mean, it took them 15 years to cut their audience in half. What you're talking about it cutting the audience by 66%.

You mentioned the drop to 1 million viewers. I never said anything about that. I never even suggested that it might happen anytime soon or happen ever.

And you're full of shyt about how they've never done the brand split effectively when they had years when Smackdown was just as good if not superior to Raw. Quit putting words into my mouth and stop the WWE ass kissing.

 

[sid the kid]

Even if you're talking about a singular episode of Raw, that's even more stupid. Raw typically starts off strong with anywhere between 3.7 and 4.2 million viewers on any given week. So what you're talking about is 2.5 to 3 million viewers tuning out between hours 1 and 3, which is massively laughable.

Again, WWE will never hit 1 million viewers for any hour of Raw. Ever.

 

[sid the kid]

You mentioned the drop to 1 million viewers. I never said anything about that. I never even suggested that it might happen anytime soon or happen ever.

And you're full of shyt about how they've never done the brand split effectively when they had years when Smackdown was just as good if not superior to Raw. Quit putting words into my mouth and stop the WWE ass kissing.

You're the one that brought up 1 million viewers you fukking idiot.

 

[NoMorePie]

Please do it.

Cesaro would be main eventing Smackdown every week and would actually seem legitimate.

 

[Kang Deezy]

They have enough talent to easily do it

There are a few people in NXT that are ready like balor, Bayley, zayn, joe, Corbin, Enzo and cass plus they have talent not getting tv time

Keep Owens and the Ic title on raw and move kalisto and us title to Smackdown

They could create a seperate woman's title if they wanted but I'm not as optimistic they could pull it off

They could and should create a cruiser weight title for Smackdown

You put the stars on raw and make it sports entertainment and make Smackdown a workrate show

 

[jerniebert]

They can do all the brand splits they want. In the end the only show that will matter is Monday Night Raw.

 

[mrken12]

@sid the kid Getting ratings in the 1's doesn't mean you only had a million viewers. Know what you're talking about before you start questioning someone else's knowledge.

10/19 Raw Ratings are in – Raw falls to historical low | PWTorch

As if the Raw TV ratings could not get any worse, Monday’s show fell to an historical low 2.21 rating despite the abundance of star power on the show.

WWE Raw TV Ratings Report

— October 19: Monday’s Raw scored a 2.21 rating, down from a mid-2.3 rating from the previous three weeks.

This was the same rating as a holiday episode on Christmas Eve 2012 to tie for the lowest rating in the past 18 years.

In the key demographic ratings, Raw was down slightly in males 18-49 to a one-month low. Raw remained flat in adults 18-49 and males 18-34.

WWE did not do as much as expected to promote the return of big names “Stone Cold” Steve Austin, Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair, The Undertaker, and Brock Lesnar on the show. Plus, Monday Night Football featured the New York and Philadelphia TV markets and a “Star Wars” trailer release, bumping up the football audience by about 13 percent.

– The bright spot is Raw’s overall audience increased by two percent. But, the third hour continues to be a problem.

Raw averaged 3.356 million viewers, up from last week’s year-low audience of 3.284 million viewers. However, the audience was smaller than two weeks ago.

Hourly Break Down: 3.600 million first hour viewers, 3.347 million second hour viewers, and a sharp decline to 3.123 million third hour viewers.

When they reached their lowest point of the ratings at 2.21, they still averaged over 3 million viewers. A lot of factors go into calculating the ratings.

11/23 Raw TV Ratings are in - Audience rejects post-PPV show - PWTorch

Monday’s Raw following the Survivor Series PPV was rejected by the audience. Raw fell to an historical low TV rating and the last two hours both drew fewer than three million viewers.

WWE Raw TV Ratings Tracking

— November 23: Raw scored a 2.16 rating, down from a 2.28 rating last week.

It was the lowest rating of the year and lowest in two decades going back to the pre-Attitude Era mid-1990s.

– Raw averaged 2.964 million viewers, down ten percent from last Monday’s show leading into Survivor Series. Hourly Break Down:

• Soft start of 3.190 million first hour viewers, down from 3.541 million 1H viewers last week. It was the fewest first-hour viewers of the year.
• 2.990 million second hour viewers, down from 3.290 million 2H viewers last week.
• Another decline to 2.712 million third hour viewers, down from 3.047 million 3H viewers last week.

Correction: 2.16 was the lowest that they reached and they averaged 2.9 million viewers. Which means that getting 1.9 or 1.8 isn't impossible. If they started averaging 1 million viewers they would be putting up below 0.9 ratings which is not what anyone here suggested had a chance of happening.

 

[YakSpiller]

SD is not gonna pop off.

 

[Canada Goose]

No more 3 hours then

That would be a good thing as having 3 hour RAW's weekly really ruined it, it was great when it was two hours...

 

[Rack4K]

People in the wrestling industry (both fans and participants) tend to look to imagination solutions to the company's problems. Back when there was a brand split the imagination solution was to end it. Not to mention the cries about TV-PG and other trivial criticisms.

The show is bad. The WWE is bad. No brand split, or switch to TV-14 or any other irrelevant change in presentation or branding is going to change that.

Write culturally relevant television with captivating characters and common sense, adapt booking not influenced by destructive backstage politics or shareholding pandering first...then we can focus on the other bullshyt.

 

[prophecypro]

Roster is too light to have a split.

 

[DANJ!]

You put the stars on raw and make it sports entertainment and make Smackdown a workrate show

This is a bad idea. For either show to work, you need a combination of the two. And if people want SD to be treated equally to Raw, it'd be backwards to prioritize the thing that draws less on SD.

And yeah, if there was a split, Raw would def. need to be scaled back to two hours. The 10-11 hour can obviously go.

Not really feeling that this current roster is so deep they need a split tho'...

 

[Osmosis]

The brand split is so stupid. It handicaps the company and punishes the fans. Please leave that shyt in the mid 2000s when people stopped watching.