They are far right. The far right just won’t accept them because they are black. So they are stuck in limbo.
There is a very THIN FINE LINE between the manosphere and embracing far right ideas
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They are far right. The far right just won’t accept them because they are black. So they are stuck in limbo.
The Plug
plug couldnt trust you now u cant trust the plug
this is pretty fukking clear when fresh and fit said white men are the most persecuted group in this country. nikkas here wanna act like that ex-cop that hangs around republicans isn't right-wing though.
Neo. The Only. The One.
THE ONE
Ya' Cousin Cleon
OG COUCH CORNER HUSTLA
the majority of the "manosphere" i've seen stay strickly on the dating/clowning delusional women side of things. people keep using fresh and fit as THE example but they are two lames that get clowned by other people in the manosphere oddly enough.
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The Plug
plug couldnt trust you now u cant trust the plug
Myron said that, to some white girls too.two black men said this fukk shyt?
GoPinheiro
Pro
Not true. Are you in your 20s?
Because i used to listen to them during my college days(early and mid-2010s), and the majority of them(From Jason Black/Sottomayor/Tariq Nasheed to SWP to Obsidian to Minister Jap etc) at the time already used many right-wing talking points.
Tariq was the smartest, because he was able to successfully rebrand himself and easily adapt through different eras.
The only chilled guy that I remember was Rom Wills. He was the only one talking strictly about improving your finances, going where you are celebrated and shyt like that.
Action Mike
All praise..
Yeah that part is obvious, noticed it very early on
These "traditional values" don't really map over with modern Liberal ideas
I dont subscribe to left or right, just what's best for me and immediately around me and consume content that way
These "traditional values" don't really map over with modern Liberal ideas
I dont subscribe to left or right, just what's best for me and immediately around me and consume content that way
The Wall Is Undefeated!
Superstar
Case in point of how thecoli has become a cesspit of loser thinking and how truly out of touch they actually are. The 'anybody that doesn't follow our myopic worldview must be a cac' trope.
Sad and pathetic. Seethe in your bitter juices.
The Wall Is Undefeated!
Superstar
At the bolded part - That's my position as well. If a leftoid has a position I agree with, great. If a rightoid has a position I agree with, great.
Iverson_64
Superstar
BUMP.
I was going to make a thread on this until I stumbled across this.
I think the Manosphere has some good channels and spokesmen who can drop jewels on men when it comes to dating, gender roles, gaming, and self-improvement.
My personal favorite "Manosphere" channels would be Rom Wills, The Roommates, Style OG, and Kevin Samuels(though I disagreed with him on the HVM stuff). They were the main ones who tried to actually be informative with the advice they were giving and they also placed a big emphasis on monogamy and marriage in the Black community as opposed to the usual casanova "pump and dump" and "GMB" stuff that other Red Pill channels were pushing.
The Manosphere as a whole started to lose its appeal to me when it started to adopt the same mindset as Conservative "Anti-SJW/woke" types. Ya'll know how anti-woke Conservatives love to obsess over everything that they claim is woke and beat the subject with a dead horse. The Manosphere started to do the same thing with "modern women" and feminists. They started complaining about those 2 groups ad nauseam to the point where it overshadowed the core messages.
And, eventually, you started getting a big influx of these "alpha" and "red pill" guys who simply bytch about the same types of women over and over again while occasionally dropping the "Stack paper bro", "Just lift bro", "Focus on your purpose bro" generic advice to try to come across as balanced and sensible.
These dudes know what they're doing. They're preying on the frustration that many men in the West have with women and dating for the views and financial support. There's a huge market for pandering to these young men who feel like they're living in a world that's passing them by. Women in the West are the least dependent on men than at any point in history: They're getting their own lavish jobs. Getting their own degrees. Buying their own homes. Paying their own bills. Opening their own bank accounts. And they're now able to judge men solely on looks/status via hookup culture and OLD.
And this is where the infiltration of the Far Right in the manosphere(more so the White version than the Black one) comes in. The Far Right promises to give men more autonomy over women, give men more rights/freedom, give feminists less power, and make men feel like they're in control again. White boys, of course, fall for it like dopamine but now you have a generation of Black boys who are listening to Andrew Tate's crazy @ss and becoming somewhat receptive of it too. Hell, the Alt Right literally got formed off the backs of White men who were frustrated with Western women and dating. The correlation is very uncanny.
Every single Black Manosphere channel celebrated Roe Vs. Wade getting overturned as a victory against the type of women they claim to hate. But the catch is that they don't understand that the GOP mostly did it as more of a power/ego trip against Liberals more than actually caring about traditional values(especially when they're known to have their own mistresses pull the plug.)
I'm rambling here but I just think that the Black Manosphere needs to do a better job gatekeeping. Just stick to the core messages about men becoming wise about dating/hooking up, setting up clear goals for themselves, knowing how to do certain things every grown man should learn(fixing a car, dressing in certain ways, hygiene, budgeting, etc.), and understanding their value. The obsession with "sticking it" to modern women and feminists can be reduced and any White person who wants to collaborate or join in should be inspected because many White guys in the Manosphere are full-blown Far Right Wingers who don't have Black peoples' best interests at heart even if they share some of the "these bytches ain't shyt" sentiment on the surface level.
I was going to make a thread on this until I stumbled across this.
I think the Manosphere has some good channels and spokesmen who can drop jewels on men when it comes to dating, gender roles, gaming, and self-improvement.
My personal favorite "Manosphere" channels would be Rom Wills, The Roommates, Style OG, and Kevin Samuels(though I disagreed with him on the HVM stuff). They were the main ones who tried to actually be informative with the advice they were giving and they also placed a big emphasis on monogamy and marriage in the Black community as opposed to the usual casanova "pump and dump" and "GMB" stuff that other Red Pill channels were pushing.
The Manosphere as a whole started to lose its appeal to me when it started to adopt the same mindset as Conservative "Anti-SJW/woke" types. Ya'll know how anti-woke Conservatives love to obsess over everything that they claim is woke and beat the subject with a dead horse. The Manosphere started to do the same thing with "modern women" and feminists. They started complaining about those 2 groups ad nauseam to the point where it overshadowed the core messages.
And, eventually, you started getting a big influx of these "alpha" and "red pill" guys who simply bytch about the same types of women over and over again while occasionally dropping the "Stack paper bro", "Just lift bro", "Focus on your purpose bro" generic advice to try to come across as balanced and sensible.
These dudes know what they're doing. They're preying on the frustration that many men in the West have with women and dating for the views and financial support. There's a huge market for pandering to these young men who feel like they're living in a world that's passing them by. Women in the West are the least dependent on men than at any point in history: They're getting their own lavish jobs. Getting their own degrees. Buying their own homes. Paying their own bills. Opening their own bank accounts. And they're now able to judge men solely on looks/status via hookup culture and OLD.
And this is where the infiltration of the Far Right in the manosphere(more so the White version than the Black one) comes in. The Far Right promises to give men more autonomy over women, give men more rights/freedom, give feminists less power, and make men feel like they're in control again. White boys, of course, fall for it like dopamine but now you have a generation of Black boys who are listening to Andrew Tate's crazy @ss and becoming somewhat receptive of it too. Hell, the Alt Right literally got formed off the backs of White men who were frustrated with Western women and dating. The correlation is very uncanny.
Every single Black Manosphere channel celebrated Roe Vs. Wade getting overturned as a victory against the type of women they claim to hate. But the catch is that they don't understand that the GOP mostly did it as more of a power/ego trip against Liberals more than actually caring about traditional values(especially when they're known to have their own mistresses pull the plug.)
I'm rambling here but I just think that the Black Manosphere needs to do a better job gatekeeping. Just stick to the core messages about men becoming wise about dating/hooking up, setting up clear goals for themselves, knowing how to do certain things every grown man should learn(fixing a car, dressing in certain ways, hygiene, budgeting, etc.), and understanding their value. The obsession with "sticking it" to modern women and feminists can be reduced and any White person who wants to collaborate or join in should be inspected because many White guys in the Manosphere are full-blown Far Right Wingers who don't have Black peoples' best interests at heart even if they share some of the "these bytches ain't shyt" sentiment on the surface level.
I know they're not. But I have enough real life experience to know what USDA Prime selfish a$$holes, with their moral justifications to be selfish as fukk, right wingers are. I have smoke for anyone on the left when they get out of pocket, but boy do right wingers take the cake. And I'm talking about people I've had very similar interests with. Stuff like working out, gaming, movies, sports, comic books, anime, etc. The right wing gets bytched about because it's been earned. And the manosphere is totally right wing and always has been a gateway to extreme right wing ideology.
Vandelay
Life is absurd. Lean into it.
I see I dapped a few posts on this when it first became a topic. The correlation between the manosphere and the far right has been known for quite some time. More than a few videos and articles have been written on it. Even Tariq; of all people; made a podcast on it around 10 years ago. The latest video I've run across that talks about it is from FD Signifier. I don't agree with all his points, but he's a refreshing personality in the YouTube talking head environment who doesn't take your normal spin on topics. It's long, but worth it.
get these nets
Veteran
Any adult susceptible to being influenced like that is not going to be able to make that distinction. Sheep will follow any shepherd.