There Is Far Too Much Death In The Black Community

Will Ross

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Are you reducing Black experience to only crime? I live in a Black middle class neighborhood in the 80’s. It was a nice-looking 60’s built suburb with single family homes. Mostly hardworking good people but some drug dealing went on and the occasional shooting. My next door neighbor had a bullet go through with wall while he slept one night. People were tough..you had to fight. There was a mix of blue collar workers and professionals, and a few bums/degenerates.

That being said, it was still middle class life and we didn’t want for bare necessities and we had realistic options in life. That experience is nothing like that of the people that lived in the innercity and the projects who essentially locked into occupied territory with no autonomy, lacking basic resources and often subject to random violence and fear intimidation as part of life.


You are the one doing that because you have this tv idea of what a poor person is.
 

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What did I say wrong? If you let white supremacy hold you back you might as well not live. Harriet Tubman toughened up and did what she could to help slaves. She didn't sit around complaining about the white man

I didn’t say it was wrong; I think it’s ironic that you were so cavalier about that in a thread that is supposedly about how blaze we are about death.
 

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I mean....I guess I could put all the blame on black men...:manny:


But then, I'd be dismissing the root cause. :mjpls:


Cacs have created this environment. Nggas are fatherless, broke, hopeless, too emotional (from being raised by single women), etc. Cacs created all these hoods, you see across the country. Neglected, and void of REAL opportunity. I know folks don't like to hear the "white man is the devil",conspiracy, but they've rigged the system, and set folks up to fail. These are effects, of the deck being stacked. Kids raising kids.:yeshrug:

Sadly, most folks aren't strong enough to make it out, and will succumb to their environment (one way or another). It's not "entirely" your fault, you're not strong enough to make it out, either. You're just a product of your environment. If you grow up amongst degenerates, wolves, crab in the barrel MFers, and low-lifes, it might fukk up your trajectory in life, too. I think nggas, just don't see a way out, or believe it can happen. It's hard to imagine some shyt, you've never seen, or been exposed to, too!

We're not even touchin the music side of things/culture, and I've grown up off street/drugs rap. At a certain point tho (enter CHI...), it turned into complete murder raps, and ultimate levels of disrespect. The type of shyt/words, men can't come back from (if you consider yourself a man). Don't got the answers either....:yeshrug:

It's hard when so many bodies done dropped, and all nggas can see is RED. Retribution, revenge, and vendettas. You can't tell someone how to feel about their bro, cousin, father, son, etc. that just got gunned down, up the block. :yeshrug:

I wish we would get it together as a ppl, but as far as that goes...I'm hopeless. I don't see no end in sight, to the perpetual violence, no time soon.
 
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I wouldn't give 2 flying f*cks if it was just the gangbangers and degenerates killing one another exclusively. But unfortunately that's not the case. Unfortunately, these goofies constantly hit innocent Black people and children instead. And then you have the random bottom feeder nikkas who are out here killing the women and children. And when you compound all of that, the violence becomes too much. :snoop:
 

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Things have changed since the Moynihan report though in terms of housing segregation and education. By the 80’s or so there was a lot of middle class Black people growing up like the Huxtables zoned in communities with tax bases and not around the corner from dope houses.

There’s truth there that still holds true to this day of course. However, you must concede that today amongst the gatekeepers of blackness in media, politics, pop culture, and business there is very little representation of the Black poor, and a lot of Black people who grew in affluence trying to blacksplain struggles of Black poor to the masses.

That is true. Even if not close geographically we are still close culturally.

Also I would say there are not enough wealthy or upper middle class blacks to truly be separate from the poorest Blacks. The are no real "classes" in Black America like in White America when we look at the wealth numbers.

"Wealthy" Blacks still have poor family members who they support financially.
 

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:stopitslime:Genocide?! What percentage of the black community gets murdered? You can lament the unnecessary violence in the black community but people like to overdo it and act like black people about to wipe each other out.
 

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It’s become so mundane as to no longer elicit shock when it happens. In every major city, from Philly to DC, New York to Chicago, black people are dying at a rate no other community in this country sees. We read story after story of lives turned to nothing on daily basis: boys, girls, men and women traveling down an assembly line of death.

When does this carnage end? At this point, we are committing genocide on our people. It’s not white people doing it. We’re doing it. We’re celebrating it. We’re making music to it. We’re smoking packs to it.

Black America is unrecognizable to me at this point.

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No we are not. Have you actually seen that stats on this breh?:jbhmm:


The vast majority of black people are just living our lives. Take NYC for example. In a city of literally millions of black people less than 500 are victims of homocide each year. That is legit 0.025% of that city's black population. And that number has been steadily declining since the 70s. Like forrreal breh; there used to be thousands killed in homicides in that and most other US cities.


And the stats are similar for nearly every other crime stat among black people and the wider us population.


We do not have a genocide. Instead i think we have a very vocal contingent of people among the greater black population who glorify (as perpetrators) or highlight(as victims) this part of our community; but the stats dont back up the narrative of carnage or genocide. Especially as the numbers get better and safer every year(with the exception of covid fukkery of course, which is an outlier in the data set:hubie:)
 

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I’ve said it a million times, the “black community” is a myth. Why? Take away white supremacy/police brutality and discrimination and then ask yourself what really unites us other than that?

If you’re Black, network with like minded black people but accept collectively that we are finished. I don’t say this to be a pessimist but I say this as a realist. There’s too much trash in our “community”.

This is not me not telling people to sell out or c00n. They’re just as bad as the ain’t shyt men knocking up the ain’t shyt women raising ain’t shyt children.

From gangbangers to trashy whores twerking in public, these people don’t represent me. I know I’m still up against white supremacy everyday I wake up but I also know the morons who perpetuate the dysfunction don’t represent me either.

You just have to do you because as a Black person in this world, you’re alone. Build your family up brehs.
 

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Bunch of c00ns, tethers and cacs in here using black death to shyt on black people. You bytches don't give a fukk about black people. I guarantee you don't donate to any charity or volunteer for shyt in the hood. You bytches probably cross the street when you see black people. Purse clutching fakkits.
 

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You do have to take school seriously you stupid mfer..

Education is the difference between a criminal using a iPad app, to steal key fob codes to get your car. Versus some mindless mumbling idiots pulling out a gun and shooting a mfer for that same car..

That has nothing to do with education, that's just natural intelligence and resourcefulness. The nikkas using technology to commit crimes aren't anymore educated than the violent ones.
 

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I would argue that its not the majority of us, its the loud minority

Unfortunately the innocent are caught in the crossfire sometimes

Most black men 35+ probably are not on that type of time

Too many of y'all havent attended black schools or lived in black neighborhoods

Most of us trying to stay out the way
 

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Man I’m tired of the we as a community have to be responsible rhetoric for the bad apples in society that look like us but don’t care for us

white folks disown and ignore their bad apples

Asians do the same

matter fact all other communities do that

but we as black folks gotta be ashamed and embarrassed of individuals actions

brehs out here giving money to the community and making sure families have food on their plate for the holidays

meanwhile a couple idiots gotta ruin it all. And somehow it’s our responsibility

There’s a good thread about this in HL based on an article. Black people are the only race who act like our classes live the same experience. White yuppies don’t claim solidarity of experience with white trash. Black middle class people who don’t want for any material needs and live in safe neighborhoods with decent schools and public don’t live anything like the poor and lower middle class Black people to which death is a constant around them.

Agreed with both of these takes.

Middle class and up white folks hate poor whites.

Look at all the names they have for them...

White Trash
Redneck
Hilbilly
Cousin fukker
Trailer Trash
Farmer (I've heard this used in a derogatory way by whites about other whites... like how you mad at food? :dwillhuh: But I digress...)

Rich city whites hate rural whites and vice versa... it goes on and on.

They draw a hard line between themselves and the white underclass. When they see all the heroin, meth, serial killing, kid touching, school shooting and everything else that goes on in their community, they brush it off and say "Oh they are just trash."

Meanwhile, we tend to be treated as a monolith, where the actions of the worst among us reflect on the best.
 
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