There is no Blk/Brown Unity (IMO)

[Bawon Samedi]

Brown pride is a Mexican/central american thing. We caribbeans latinos don't identify with them. There's no unity within the latin community. It's all divided by region sometimes. For example...a mexican will have things more in common and will be likely be accepted by his central american brethern than a group of ricans and dominicans.

I'm going to speak for DR..

We don't ignore our heritage, we know our history and what went down. We call ourselves and eachother ( depending on the skin color) black by using the term moren@ or negr@. Some of yall just don't get it, we don't share the same history. What the yall (AA's) went thru not all of us experienced the same thing. One of the two biggest reasons why... is that USA and DR were colonized by two different colonial powers and the demographic between the 2 are different. Whites make up the majority of the population in USA while they're a minority in the DR....

NOT tryna turn this into a bash Dominicans. I fukk wit Dominicans, had many Dominican friends and smashed a couple of
Dominican girls(). But... You Moreno and Negra Dominicans NEED to start calling out those pale skinned elitist Dominicans from Santiago because I notice its been THEM this whole time who have been fanning anti-Black retheric in the DR and in the DR community.

Fact is... I don't believe darker skinned Dominicans "deny" their African ancestry like the Coli makes it seem but are just "confused" not only that I notice that darker skinned Dominicans behave like AAs a bit and I notice this a lot. Hell just look at this shyt.


I believe they KNOW they are African influenced but since the pale Dominicans have all the capital and power they dictate the "culture." Many of the most RACIST Dominican nationals I've seen online have been those pale skinned types from Santiago. This is why I no longer go head first with the "Dominicans are c00ns!" because there are a lot of context in place. Seen a "morena" skinned Dominican chick defending Haitians and clowning those pale skinned types on twitter.

Do you agree? Also @Hennessypapi and @September do yall also agree? Dominican history seems to be complex and I can add on too.

 

[Yoda]

This the issue with mixed/biracial folks right here.

So black people are 100 percent pure perfect Angels and if you point out the rotten shyt you a racist problem?
Nah b. I'm free. I see both sides like chanel

 

[3rdWorld]

What exactly is it that you seek from Browns? What do they posses that you are so eager to chase them for all over the place

 

[smokeurobinson]

These generalization topics are so unrealistric No race has 100% unity. For every white supremacist who is all for the preservation of race there's another white guy with his pecker out for that brown sugar. Black unity isn't real either because you have class separation, tribal difference, different mentalities. You got lighter hispanics who are racist towards dark hispanics. No race or ethnicity has 100% unity.

 

[truth2you]

Brown pride is a Mexican/central american thing. We caribbeans latinos don't identify with them. There's no unity within the latin community. It's all divided by region sometimes. For example...a mexican will have things more in common and will be likely be accepted by his central american brethern than a group of ricans and dominicans.

I'm going to speak for DR..

We don't ignore our heritage, we know our history and what went down. We call ourselves and eachother ( depending on the skin color) black by using the term moren@ or negr@. Some of yall just don't get it, we don't share the same history. What the yall (AA's) went thru not all of us experienced the same thing. One of the two biggest reasons why... is that USA and DR were colonized by two different colonial powers and the demographic between the 2 are different. Whites make up the majority of the population in USA while they're a minority in the DR....

I don't agree with the bolded

If anything Latin America has more in common with black americans then other blacks in the diaspora because we both are mixed more then others, we have different terms for the mix of each other, and we lived under our oppressors. Them being a minority means nothing, its about who has the power. In the states Whites were a minority during slave times int he south, this is why they allowed more white immigrants when we got free from slavery, they needed more whites to undermine us

The main difference is the "one drop rule". Latin America didn't have that, so they were allowed to marry their way out. Either through skin tone, or just marrying white. Its still happening to this day. In the U.S., we didn't have that option, so we were forced to work with each other. Look at a lot of those who helped us in the past, its obvious they were mixed, but if this were latin America, those people would most likely integrate with white eventually. That rule actually helped us!

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I don't agree with the bolded

If anything Latin America has more in common with black americans then other blacks in the diaspora because we both are mixed more then others, we have different terms for the mix of each other, and we lived under our oppressors. Them being a minority means nothing, its about who has the power. In the states Whites were a minority during slave times int he south, this is why they allowed more white immigrants when we got free from slavery, they needed more whites to undermine us

The main difference is the "one drop rule". Latin America didn't have that, so they were allowed to marry their way out. Either through skin tone, or just marrying white. Its still happening to this day. In the U.S., we didn't have that option, so we were forced to work with each other. Look at a lot of those who helped us in the past, its obvious they were mixed, but if this were latin America, those people would most likely integrate with white eventually. That rule actually helped us!

I agree 100% with the bolded but NOT because we are "mixed" but because like Afro-Latinos we are a disenfranchised minority group facing oppressing i.e Afro-Brazilians, Colombians, Cubans, etc.

 

[Cave Savage]

It’s a social term, don’t do that

Here in New York it's mostly South Asians who call themselves "brown".


It's seems like beige Mexicans calling themselves "brown" is more of a West Coast thing. Same thing with pronouncing "Mexico" or "Latino" the Spanish way even when they speak English.

 

[ElMorenoFeo809]

NOT tryna turn this into a bash Dominicans. I fukk wit Dominicans, had many Dominican friends and smashed a couple of
Dominican girls(). But... You Moreno and Negra Dominicans NEED to start calling out those pale skinned elitist Dominicans from Santiago because I notice its been THEM this whole time who have been fanning anti-Black retheric in the DR and in the DR community.

Fact is... I don't believe darker skinned Dominicans "deny" their African ancestry like the Coli makes it seem but are just "confused" not only that I notice that darker skinned Dominicans behave like AAs a bit and I notice this a lot. Hell just look at this shyt.


I believe they KNOW they are African influenced but since the pale Dominicans have all the capital and power they dictate the "culture." Many of the most RACIST Dominican nationals I've seen online have been those pale skinned types from Santiago. This is why I no longer go head first with the "Dominicans are c00ns!" because there are a lot of context in place. Seen a "morena" skinned Dominican chick defending Haitians and clowning those pale skinned types on twitter.

Do you agree? Also @Hennessypapi and @September do yall also agree? Dominican history seems to be complex and I can add on too.

I've never been to Santiago before but met a handful of Cibaeñ@ ( Santiago is in the provience of Cibao where you find alot of pale skins) in Santo Domingo and in New York, very few gave me the but not all. But yeah they're tend the most among all the dominicans and their culture did influence the rest if the country mainly with merengue but i don't fully blame on them with the whole racist vibe in DR. The Spainards and their caste system during the colonials and Trujillo brainwashing the population. Also many medias outlet are owned and influenced by the europeans. There's isn't really anything we can do .... perhaps things will get better when the older generation who lived during the Trujillo era dies off but then again I'm sure they'll past down their views on the younger generations.

 

[truth2you]

I've never been to Santiago before but met a handful of Cibaeñ@ ( Santiago is in the provience of Cibao where you find alot of pale skins) in Santo Domingo and in New York, very few gave me the but not all. But yeah they're tend the most among all the dominicans and their culture did influence the rest if the country mainly with merengue but i don't fully blame on them with the whole racist vibe in DR. The Spainards and their caste system during the colonials and Trujillo brainwashing the population. Also many medias outlet are owned and influenced by the europeans. There's isn't really anything we can do .... perhaps things will get better when the older generation who lived during the Trujillo era dies off but then again I'm sure they'll past down their views on the younger generations.

You can learn from blacks in the 60's, they went through the same thing, and still had the WORLD rocking Afro's, and acting like black americans. You gotta fight, there is no way around it! But the fight starts with your family, and the ignorance they gave you, then you try to get your friends to change, then it grows.

Yall waking up, just gotta keep spreading the knowledge, and tell WHY this happened!

 

[kingofnyc]

I don't see nobody going around swabbin nikkas mouths to verify DNA. But yeah fukk phenotypes, it's tha arbitrary will of whoever happens to be classifying a person at tht particular moment tht determines a person's race, my bad.

A rican could be 50% spaniard 25% taino and 25% African and tht would be black to yall.

i'm not one of dem nikkaz that call people black if they dont wanna be black

i guess its a nuyoricans thing - that outsiders will never understand (we considered dem our brothers & sisters)

 

[kingofnyc]

(Black)Panamanians are the few Latinos I trust.

However, Hispanics aren't monolithic. IMO Mexicans/Central Americans and American Cubans are the WOAT ones. Puerto Ricans can be wishy washy. Either VERY comfortable being around Blacks like Nuyuricans or very like Florida Ricans. South American Hispanics just stick to their own.

nah, not nuyoricans
they as real as it gets

 

[ElMorenoFeo809]

I don't agree with the bolded

What i meant on the bolded part is that we didn't face a segregation were it was legal like the jim crow law (beside Cuba cos at that time it was influenced by the U.S at that time), or where we had to live in fear because of a hate group terrorizing non white people, or go thru public lynching, or get shytted on after serving 2 major wars or face public lynching or police brutatilty..etc etc...


Out of all the group of ADOS, AAs are the one that went thru the most extreme hardship and oppression. Not saying that the us brehs didn't suffered from opression but it was not to the extent like yalls. You guys went thru alot compared to us. Also it's not only the black in latin america that faced opression/discrimination, so did the natives and those with strong natives bloodlines especially in Mexico, bolivia and guatemala.

You're also right on the one drop rule. In latin america we follow the reverse one drop rule that also makes a difference.

 

[ElMorenoFeo809]

That rule actually helped us!

It sure did because even AA's with mixed features/lightskin or w.e we're also considered black and were oppressed.. If the spainards applied the one black rule on us, we would've been more "woke" and less of a "c00n"..... Therefore many of us black/afro latin@s are blind when we step on the U.S soil. Like I've said before we didn't experience the same level of hardship like yall did.

And as for DR , when it was founded, there were no such thing of 2nd class amongst its citizens ( Haitian in the DR is a different story.) We don't talk about race everyday like the U.S but we're colourist as fukk.. When the U.S was first founded, it was racist from the start.

 

[ElMorenoFeo809]

nah, not nuyoricans
they as real as it gets

Yes,Nuyoricans are our brothers and sisters. If yall from the NE yall should already know about that.The ones from the island are not like them.

 

[Matriarchy Refugee]

Your doing the same shyt that "I'm doing" tho except I ain't backing down from my statement. Y'all backstabbers breh word to project pat. But I got a black momma so inaint worried.

Be raised by a taco wench, brehitos

I hope your papi gets deported to whatever caca-hole he came from