There is NO hip hop album from the 80s I can listen to in full

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

true.

But don't expect to make an accurate/interesting observation if you haven't done your due diligence. You're pretty much shooting from the hip. And in this case, off the mark.

Thanks.

You're welcome. But let me help you some more.

You stated that you can't listen to an 80's hip hop album from top to bottom. As if an album being from the 80's is wack off top. That by default is a bullshyt premise, and by making that statement, you must believe that other decades put out albums that's you can listen to top to bottom.

If you were coming up in, let's say 88-90, I can assure you you'd have listen to every song on a BDK/slick Rick/rakim/KRS/ultramagnetic album.

Critiquing those albums in hindsight and saying 80s artists just didn't have it like that is a BS premise.

 

[SirBiatch]

You're welcome. But let me help you some more.

You stated that you can't listen to an 80's hip hop album from top to bottom. As if an album being from the 80's is wack off top. That by default is a bullshyt premise, and by making that statement, you must believe that other decades put out albums that's you can listen to top to bottom.

If you were coming up in, let's say 88-90, I can assure you you'd have listen to every song on a BDK/slick Rick/rakim/KRS/ultramagnetic album.

Critiquing those albums in hindsight and saying 80s artists just didn't have it like that is a BS premise.

Where the fukk did you get this from?

There is a range between wack and brilliant. It's a pretty wide range.

The premise makes perfect sense. You're just being defensive and looking at shyt in extremes. Ease up.

 

[Taadow]

Not one. Front to back. Can't do it.

The great albums that we all talk about (e.g. Criminal Minded, Great Adventures, Paid in Full, Straight Outta Compton, etc) all have 1, 2 or 3 blindly brilliant songs where EVERYTHING comes together: perfect beat, perfect flow and perfect rhymes. You've probably heard those songs already because everyone shared them and duped the shyt out of them.

But for the most part, there's stuff that feels straight up dated, out of place and/or 'filler'. Not always in a bad way. The turntablism on Paid in Full is OK at times. The innocent jokey songs like "Super Hoe" on a hardcore album.

This is a big reason why 90s rappers are so revered. They became ALBUM rappers as opposed to vinyl rappers.

Agree/disagree? And is there an 80s album you can play in full or close to full?

I mean...to each their own, but...


I feel sorry for you, dawg. "Super Hoe" is one of my favorite songs of all time.
I don't think that's out of place on a hardcore album.

...and you said "the turntablism on Paid In Full is OK at times"...what a sad sentence from someone who
claims to like hip-hop.

I get it, doe. 80's and early 90's albums are different because that was the "flippin' styles" era.

 

[Danie84]

OP's Buggin Adventure of Slick Rick, It Takes a Nation of Million, Long Live Kane,

Schooly D, Follow The Leader, Paid In Full, Goin Off, Escape, Straight Outta Compton, Criminal Minded, By Any Means Necessary, and even Duck Rock still Go HAM

...88 was truly an IllMATIC time for Hip-Hop, tho

84 Baby/90s Kid

 

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

Where the fukk did you get this from?

There is a range between wack and brilliant. It's a pretty wide range.

The premise makes perfect sense. You're just being defensive and looking at shyt in extremes. Ease up.

A few things.

1st, I don't need to ease up. I'm easy like Sunday morning.

2nd, I'm not being defensive. I'm calling YOU out for your BS thread premise. It's YOU who is being defensive, trying to tell me to read thru 100 posts as if that makes your OP valid. Nah bruh.

3rd, and let me explain this again. Let these words seep in: your OP is based on the premise that if an album came from the 80's, then you can't listen to it front to back. Because it came from the 80's. By making this statement, you've obviously concluded OTHER DECADES MAKE ALBUMS THAT CAN BE LISTENED TO FROM FRONT TO BACK, AND THEREFORE THE 80's MUSIC WAS WACK.

That's your thread premise

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

There hasn't been a hip-hop album since '97 that I could listen to in-full.

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[toomanydoses]

Bro you aren't a fan of music as a whole. Always hating on something. There are classics from every era, not just rap. Stop being salty

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

I strongly disagree, old school rappers are basic rappers, some were advanced but most were simpler than now. It's like at the advent of rapping people was still trying to master it down. You can't tell me kurtis blow and and people of that era are lyrically at a higher level than today's current rappers.

Good thing I never mentioned kurtis blow or snoop. I specifically named the top rappers of the late 80s.

I mean if you ignore the mainstream artist think of all the artist that are underground cult favorite multi syllable wordsmiths that don't get exposure , that level of lyricism wasn't around back then. People skate by on reps now, snoop dogg for example is one of the worst rappers but he is a known entity so that doesn't get brought into question.

Did i not specifically say mainstream rappers? As for the multisyllabic rhymes it was kool g rap and kane who brought that to the forefront. Again there was a specific reason I mentioned kane, rakim, and kool g rap.

Other genres age way more gracefully, not even sure how this is arguable. but your opinion

Yeah, because van halen, poison, depeche mode, the police, and the talking heads sounds fresh in 2015. (Editors note: I actually fukk with the police and and the talking heads)

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

I guess Neneh Cherry (Eagle Eye Cherry's sister) was more 1990s BUT she had an album drop in the end of the 80s, Raw Like Sushi, that was nice. Everyone always credits Lauryn as being a beautiful writer, singer/femcee, and spoken word artists but that mulatto beat her to it, by almost a decade

You mean the buffalo stance chick?

 

[feelosofer]

This is why the Booth is in such disarray. You never hear this from anyone else in any other genre. Could you imagine, if an R and B fan said, I can't listen to anything from Motown, he/she would be roasted if not banned.

 

[karim]

i used to listen to "rhyme pays" and "the iceberg" pretty hard, but haven't in a while, so i don't know if i could still listen to the whole album.

 

[SirBiatch]

This is why the Booth is in such disarray. You never hear this from anyone else in any other genre. Could you imagine, if an R and B fan said, I can't listen to anything from Motown, he/she would be roasted if not banned.

Actually the Booth is in disarray because most of you are incapable of hip hop conversation. And essentially, most of you are stans who are afraid to ask/deal with the tough questions about the culture you claim to love.

You'd rather pretend like you're listening to Criminal Minded every day when I'm almost certain that you're not doing that.

Respectfully @feelosofer , I cant remember a thing you've ever said on The Booth that's made me go Your posts are watery and you don't say shyt. Don't speak on cats like myself who actually think before they post.

I find it funny that the people who disagree with me but have actual hip hop knowledge have attempted to discuss the issue @NormanConnors at least see my perspective.

I mean...to each their own, but...


I feel sorry for you, dawg. "Super Hoe" is one of my favorite songs of all time.
I don't think that's out of place on a hardcore album.

...and you said "the turntablism on Paid In Full is OK at times"...what a sad sentence from someone who
claims to like hip-hop.

I get it, doe. 80's and early 90's albums are different because that was the "flippin' styles" era.

 

[feelosofer]

Actually the Booth is in disarray because most of you are incapable of hip hop conversation. And essentially, most of you are stans who are afraid to ask/deal with the tough questions about the culture you claim to love.

You'd rather pretend like you're listening to Criminal Minded every day when I'm almost certain that you're not doing that.

Respectfully @feelosofer , I cant remember a thing you've ever said on The Booth that's made me go Your posts are watery and you don't say shyt. Don't speak on cats like myself who actually think before they post.

I find it funny that the people who disagree with me but have actual hip hop knowledge have attempted to discuss the issue @NormanConnors at least see my perspective.

First of all I listen to Criminal Minded every so often, and I can tell you where you I was the day it dropped, and you know what I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt on your opinions and chalk it up to you just being young. So here's the thing, and the problem with a lot of you younger heads is that you lack context. I completely understand the idea of music not always holding up to time, and I don't see the music of my day through rose colored glasses like that either but the fact of the matter is you need to have a better understanding of the music that came before you in order to make an informed opinion on what's going on today. It is important to listen to the albums of the past and because these are the things that shaped the genre. I have no problem with you asking tough questions and that's good for discussion but let's not act like you haven't been dismissive of other posters who have posted up albums of what is essential listening. I am discussing the issue but you just don't like what I have to say. So, I'll say it in plain English so you can understand me better, you're knowledge of hip-hop is faulty and quite frankly, you are a new jack who has been posting since February, I have been on this site for a long time now, and you of all people have no right to question my hip-hop knowledge nor to speak on it. I can tell you all of your favorite rappers influences, and those who influenced them. Again, I see your perspective just fine, it's simply wrong and a dangerous way to think. I already know that hip-hop is music of the youth and I'm not that young anymore but it's crazy that a genre that is barely over 40 years old is losing its roots so freaking quickly. We already got cats on there thinking hip-hop started with Biggie and Pac, do you not see a problem with that?

Edit: After reading your responses and what era you came from I'm gonna ease up on the reigns a bit but I will still stress the importance of preserving the genre and being old enough to see hip-hop from it's infancy, gives a me a relative perspective because I watched a lot of things happen in real time. I would still stress you go as far back as possible and sit through as many of these albums as you can even if it's just one time. Even in the not so great tracks there is something to be said because hip-hop was a lot harder to make back then without technology and the bar for entry was much higher. If you are the fan you say you are 'suffer' through the past.

 

[Wacky D]

Supreme Clientele
Illmatic
Cuban Linx
Liquid Swords
Infamous
sometimes Midnight Marauders (I always skip "Sucka nikka" - never liked that song)
Live.Love.ASAP (I have to skip a couple wack tracks tho)
Prose Combat (I might skip one track)

then I have stuff that's a lil lower tier that is still mostly great but I only listen to once in a while. And I'll probably skip a couple tracks.

Fantastic Vol 2
Foreign Exchange - Connected

LOL.

your problem really isnt with the '80s. the thing is, you clearly have a specific preference.

this goes back to my opening statement when i entered this thread.

 

[SirBiatch]

First of all I listen to Criminal Minded every so often, and I can tell you where you I was the day it dropped, and you know what I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt on your opinions and chalk it up to you just being young. So here's the thing, and the problem with a lot of you younger heads is that you lack context. I completely understand the idea of music not always holding up to time, and I don't see the music of my day through rose colored glasses like that either but the fact of the matter is you need to have a better understanding of the music that came before you in order to make an informed opinion on what's going on today. It is important to listen to the albums of the past and because these are the things that shaped the genre. I have no problem with you asking tough questions and that's good for discussion but let's not act like you haven't been dismissive of other posters who have posted up albums of what is essential listening. I am discussing the issue but you just don't like what I have to say. So, I'll say it in plain English so you can understand me better, you're knowledge of hip-hop is faulty and quite frankly, you are a new jack who has been posting since February, I have been on this site for a long time now, and you of all people have no right to question my hip-hop knowledge nor to speak on it. I can tell you all of your favorite rappers influences, and those who influenced them. Again, I see your perspective just fine, it's simply wrong and a dangerous way to think. I already know that hip-hop is music of the youth and I'm not that young anymore but it's crazy that a genre that is barely over 40 years old is losing its roots so freaking quickly. We already got cats on there thinking hip-hop started with Biggie and Pac, do you not see a problem with that?

You're heading for the hills and panicking when I'm only talking about 80s albums. That's it. I am not speaking on any other aspect of 80s hip hop (arguably the realest era of hip hop). There are lots of hip hop songs from the 80s that I love and marvel at how they can still be so fly decades later.

And look through my previous threads. I'm nowhere near a new jack.

Edit: After reading your responses and what era you came from I'm gonna ease up on the reigns a bit but I will still stress the importance of preserving the genre and being old enough to see hip-hop from it's infancy, gives a me a relative perspective because I watched a lot of things happen in real time. I would still stress you go as far back as possible and sit through as many of these albums as you can even if it's just one time. Even in the not so great tracks there is something to be said because hip-hop was a lot harder to make back then without technology and the bar for entry was much higher. If you are the fan you say you are 'suffer' through the past.

I've been doing this way before I joined The Coli. and will continue to do so.

and I'm aware (at least on a basic level) of the difficulties pioneers faced when making albums.