There is no such thing as Radical Islam... never has been

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What about non-Muslims?

Keep in mind that Arab Radicals/Arab Radical followers (I will call them this for the sake of argument) consider many people who consider themselves Muslim to be non-Muslim, because they do not follow the same strict interpretation as they do.

Boko haram... and other groups...
Kill their own...
 

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Boko haram... and other groups...
Kill their own...

That didn't answer my question. Would the killing of non-Muslims, or as you say enemies of Islam, be permissible according to the Quran?

And I specifically said Arab Radicals & Arab Radical followers. The followers part would include Boko Haram.
 

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That didn't answer my question. Would the killing of non-Muslims, or as you say enemies of Islam, be permissible according to the Quran?

And I specifically said Arab Radicals & Arab Radical followers. The followers part would include Boko Haram.

Non muslims are only to be killed ... if they try to harm muslims
 

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Meant to copy link in first post....

I do agree. Not 100%, but I been to Saudi, , it's not islam... especially with the wealthiest
alright i guess i'll take your word for it :leostare:

nowhere is really islam, tho. that's not exclusive to muslims, but to say people that devote their social and political structure to their holy book, prophet, and god aren't muslims is just not correct and is a fallacy to defend the religion at large. i think it's smarter to say that yes, they are muslims, but you disagree with the way they practice and they are misrepresenting the core truths that they claim to hold so dear.

every religious and ethnic group goes through this. it should be a lesson not to judge wide swaths of people according to what the people with guns, money, and authority decide in private chambers.
 

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alright i guess i'll take your word for it :leostare:

nowhere is really islam, tho. that's not exclusive to muslims, but to say people that devote their social and political structure to their holy book, prophet, and god aren't muslims is just not correct and is a fallacy to defend the religion at large. i think it's smarter to say that yes, they are muslims, but you disagree with the way they practice and they are misrepresenting the core truths that they claim to hold so dear.

every religious and ethnic group goes through this. it should be a lesson not to judge wide swaths of people according to what the people with guns, money, and authority decide in private chambers.

If I give someone some money to blow innocent people up... then that's not Islam.
 

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1, if you don't follow the basic tenets of Islam....you're not a Muslim. All Muslims agree. Even those who disagree, agree on this one point.
Only athiest, and western businessmen... push the idea that Wahhabism is Islam ,,,,
Wrong..the Wahabbis themselves identify as muslim ..they believe in the prophet and Allah and follow the basic tenets...they may follow others you dont but they got them from the same book.

what youre doing is called the "no true scotsman fallacy"


2, The Prophet did business with Africans, Asians, Jews... and those who seemed rightous. He did business with non muslims. ..... but not with enemies of Islam.
And if im not mistaken he did go to war with some of his former business partners so apparently they WERE enemies


3, you're ignorant on the history of Athiest. You think there wasn't disbelief in Arabia and other places.
Wrong my question was Wahabism had a big following long before Atheism became ACCEPTABLE in the recent years..so which is the action and which the reaction

isnt it far more likely that wahabbis are the ones who helped prove how bad religion can be .

:usure:lets be honest now.
 

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If Allah disproved of Radical Islam. ... then why don't the followers of Allah do something about it, n not wait on allah? Allah does what he does by placing the gift and powers of the universe in us all. We can believe in spook shyt as if someone else will always solve our problems, but that would negate life and free will (things that require action and preparing for consequences )

Anyway, let's say God does exist. Then this hundred years of a manipulation of islam isn't even a blink of time. 100 years is nothing to over 76 trillion. ... so why would this be a concern? History shoes that eventually all things work in favor of Allah. The universe operates on truth and physics and mathematical laws so things always balance out. :francis:
how can religious people say this shyt and not see it for what it is:there is no "allah" :mjlol:
 
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