“There’s no California without Mexicans”- Kendrick Lamar

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The "Mexican" is a new world identity.

Those people and their histories go further than that.
They were displaced and many moved south from their homeland to Mexico the country as we know it.

"Kenya", "Nigeria","Ghana", etc.
Our people (Black People) also have modern identities that came out of colonialism.
Like I said, shyt isn't really that simple tbh.
Sad this has to be explained to fully grown adults
 

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Im not married lol

You got smoked on the topic so now you’re coming at me personally

:russ::russ::russ:

Do you have some type of mental illness

The two topics we’ve been going back-and-forth

  • Mexican culture being in California culture
  • Mexicans, being part of FBA
u clearly lost on both of them … so I’m just trying to find out why are you capping for a group of people that hate your fukking guts if you’re supposedly black
 

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The two topics we’ve been going back-and-forth
  • Mexican culture being in California culture
  • Mexicans, being part of FBA
I cited sources and posted reviewed articles to back up my claims on these topics…

Remember when you asked me to post 1 Mexican who descended from US slaves….

…then I hit you with that exposé on that FBA Mexican who still sang English slave songs even though she doesn’t even know English because her ancestors escaped the south 170 years ago?

:pachaha:


You keep responding because you think I’m arguing with you…

I’m really just making sure there’s a record of you looking like an uninformed internet nikka getting continuously cooked with facts and sourced arguments…

I’m doing this for the people who are reading the thread to make sure they see what type of people are on each side of this argument

:pachaha:

You didn’t even notice



… so I’m just trying to find out why are you capping for a group of people that hate your fukking guts if you’re supposedly black

When I was a teen I had some Nortes bust they guns on my behalf when shyt got hectic in a bullshyt ass lil beef I had..

:wow:

You don’t even know CA politics like that to be making so many dumb statements
 
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I cited sources and posted reviewed articles to back up my claims on these topics…

Remember when you asked me to post 1 Mexican who descended from US slaves….

…then I hit you with that exposé on that FBA Mexican who still sang English slave songs even though she doesn’t even know English because her ancestors escaped the south 170 years ago?

:pachaha:


You keep responding because you think I’m arguing with you…

I’m really just making sure there’s a record of you looking like an uninformed internet nikka getting continuously cooked with facts and sourced arguments…

I’m doing this for the people who are reading the thread to make sure they see what type of people are on each side of this argument

:pachaha:

You didn’t even notice





When I was a teen I had some Nortes bust they guns on my behalf when shyt got hectic in a bullshyt ass lil beef I had..

:wow:

You don’t even know CA politics like that to be making so many dumb statements

:snoop: nikka u slow




1- Mexican culture is California culture
I already disproved of it
Them articles that you linked is a moot point - because as I already stated the only people who practice Mexican culture in California are Mexicans themselves and Central Americans … until you can prove an overwhelming majority of Asians , Whites , Blacks , Indians etc. etc. practicing Mexican culture in California thing you’re just wasting our time with your bullshyt



2- your FBA Mexican bullshyt
I posted the link to the actual website of FBA.org
Where it clearly states this below … so the fact that she has 170 years of someone in her lineage escaping to Mexico , SO THAT’S LITERALLY 3 TO 4 GENERATIONS OF THEM BEING MEXICAN, WHICH IS AN IMMIGRANT WHICH AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFY HER

To be designated as a FBA, at least one parent must come from a non-immigrant background in The United States of America.



and for the last and final time, how come you refuse to answer my question
Why are you capping for a group of people that has been notorious hostile and harmful and hateful to Black people?
 

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:snoop: nikka u slow




1- Mexican culture is California culture
I already disproved of it
Them articles that you linked is a moot point - because as I already stated the only people who practice Mexican culture in California are Mexicans themselves and Central Americans … until you can prove an overwhelming majority of Asians , Whites , Blacks , Indians etc. etc. practicing Mexican culture in California thing you’re just wasting our time with your bullshyt



2- your FBA Mexican bullshyt
I posted the link to the actual website of FBA.org
Where it clearly states this below … so the fact that she has 170 years of someone in her lineage escaping to Mexico , SO THAT’S LITERALLY 3 TO 4 GENERATIONS OF THEM BEING MEXICAN, WHICH IS AN IMMIGRANT WHICH AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFY HER




and for the last and final time, how come you refuse to answer my question
Why are you capping for a group of people that has been notorious hostile and harmful and hateful to Black people?
1.
I have been saying California culture is heavily influenced by Mexican culture.
Go ahead and quote me saying "Mexican culture IS California culture" I dare you
You keep reframing the argument cuz you in a corner now

:pachaha:

2.
Throughout the generations of that FBA Mexican... at least one parent has carried the non-immigrant background originating from chattel slavery. Unless you think that the offspring of FBA race mixing removes FBA designation... just say that.

3.
I'm not "capping" for anybody...
I'm speaking about the topic... the culture and history of California...
If you think that historical and cultural facts are "capping"... I don't know what to tell you


:yeshrug:
 

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Even then, Mexican American identity isn't as flat as we often portray it on TheColi.

Sometimes Mexican Americans can be racist Mexican nationalists.
Sometimes they identify as indigenous and not as "white" and see themselves
as kindred souls with the oppressed.
Sometimes they're indifferent to either and are only stateside to make money for their family back home
in Mexico.
The entirety of the west coast and it's history is complex and for Black Americans, we have carved out our own Niche in California, we've added to it too.
That isn't to say we don't matter, it's just California was Mexico before it was California and before it was Mexico, it was all indigenous land.

I'm not about to discount them people and their history for Coli points. :pachaha:
:ehh:

Understandable when you put it in that perspective
 

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I have been saying California culture is heavily influenced by Mexican culture.
Go ahead and quote me saying "Mexican culture IS California culture" I dare you
You keep reframing the argument cuz you in a corner now

:pachaha:

tomato tomato
And for the last time, tell me how Mexicans influence California culture when the only people who practice Mexican culture is Mexicans and central Americans every group that’s not them doesn’t partake in their culture at all
except taco Tuesday once in a blue





2.
Throughout the generations of that FBA Mexican... at least one parent has carried the non-immigrant background originating from chattel slavery. Unless you think that the offspring of FBA race mixing removes FBA designation... just say that.


as I stated before, those individuals developed a new ethnogenesis which turned them into Afro Mexicans
I completely understand them escaping chattel slavery, but once it was over, they should’ve returned



3.
I'm not "capping" for anybody...
I'm speaking about the topic... the culture and history of California...
If you think that historical and cultural facts are "capping"... I don't know what to tell you


:yeshrug:

u keep ducking the issue of Mexicans hating Blacks … so, i’ll keep it moving :hubie:
 

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tomato tomato
And for the last time, tell me how Mexicans influence California culture when the only people who practice Mexican culture is Mexicans and central Americans every group that’s not them doesn’t partake in their culture at all
except taco Tuesday once in a blue







as I stated before, those individuals developed a new ethnogenesis which turned them into Afro Mexicans
I completely understand them escaping chattel slavery, but once it was over, they should’ve returned





u keep ducking the issue of Mexicans hating Blacks … so, i’ll keep it moving
:hubie:
1.
tomato tomato.... lol....
:mjlol:
What city in CA did you grow up in where you saw no Mexican influence?
I'm just curious about what experiences you're basing your views on.

2.
Is it just mixed race lineage that kills FBA designation or is it not living in a black community that kills FBA designation?

:lupe:

3.
What city are you in where all the Mexicans hate blacks?
I'm hella confused on what you experienced growing up in CA.
Nortes have held me down on some super solid shyt....
Are you talking about specific gangs that beef with black gangs, the CDC race lines or just random racist Mexicans?

What did you experience growing up here and what city are you in? I'm genuinely curious

4.
Another question....
If I say white people heavily influenced New Hampshire culture... are you going to start accusing me of caping for cacs?
Can I only speak about states that have no influence from any cultures other than blacks?

Can I say that the French influenced Louisiana's culture? Is that caping for them?
:patrice:
 
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tomato tomato.... lol....
:mjlol:
What city in CA did you grow up in where you saw no Mexican influence?
I'm just curious about what experiences you're basing your views on.

2.
Is it just mixed race lineage that kills FBA designation or is it not living in a black community that kills FBA designation?

:lupe:

3.
What city are you in where all the Mexicans hate blacks?
I'm hella confused on what you experienced growing up in CA.
Nortes have held me down on some super solid shyt....
Are you talking about specific gangs that beef with black gangs, the CDC race lines or just random racist Mexicans?

What did you experience growing up here and what city are you in? I'm genuinely curious

4.
Another question....
If I say white people heavily influenced New Hampshire culture... are you going to start accusing me of caping for cacs?
Can I only speak about states that have no influence from any cultures other than blacks?

Can I say that the French influenced Louisiana's culture? Is that caping for them?
:patrice:

breh - just take your 2 L’s & keep it moving
u can’t produce any non-Mexican using their culture in California
u refuse to accept FBA.org terminology on who qualifies to be FBA


and shame on u … for that weak ass Mexican hate answer
i never been one of dem posters that criticize y’all California posters for the way Mexicans run the city
but the way u tapped danced around that shyt … is fukking pathetic
 

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breh - just take your 2 L’s & keep it moving
u can’t produce any non-Mexican using their culture in California
u refuse to accept FBA.org terminology on who qualifies to be FBA



and shame on u … for that weak ass Mexican hate answer
i never been one of dem posters that criticize y’all California posters for the way Mexicans run the city
but the way u tapped danced around that shyt … is fukking pathetic
1.
I posted multiple articles that gave the information you're asking about Mexican influence.... you didn't read any of them?
You haven't even spoke on any of the points presented in them.... breh... you gotta at least read stuff before you disagree with it

:what:

2.
I was in this thread earlier asking questions about FBA criteria because I don't follow the FBA fad...
I literally asked questions about FBA designation in the post you replied to.. you didn't answer any of them and then jump around and accuse me of refusing to accept it... I am asking you for clarity... how can I refuse to accept what you didn't even tell me?!?!?
:mjlol:

3. you're not even in CA?!?!?!?!.... wtf... why are you arguing so much about what happens in CA and you not even out here to experience what you claim is our reality...

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you been in some shyt or seen some shyt that created your perspective...
you are literally one of them social media nikkas who go off what twitter and Instagram tell you reality is

:russ:
 
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I posted multiple articles that gave the information you're asking about Mexican influence.... you didn't read any of them?
You haven't even spoke on any of the points presented in them.... breh... you gotta at least read stuff before you disagree with it

:what:

2.
I was in this thread earlier asking questions about FBA criteria because I don't follow the FBA fad...
I literally asked questions about FBA designation in the post you replied to.. you didn't answer any of them and then jump around and accuse me of refusing to accept it... I am asking you for clarity... how can I refuse to accept what you didn't even tell me?!?!?
:mjlol:

3. you're not even in CA?!?!?!?!.... wtf... why are you arguing so much about what happens in CA and you not even out here to experience what you claim is our reality...

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you been in some shyt or seen some shyt that created your perspective...
you are literally one of them social media nikkas who go off what twitter and Instagram tell you reality is

:russ:

1 - I read them articles and they’re pretty much meaningless because 75% of it is about how Mexico used to be California , taco trucks or Mexican cuisine …. why is it so hard for you to understand that the only people who practice Mexican culture are Mexicans themselves
they literally have zero influence on the rest of the demo in the state

HOLD THAT L


2 - I posted FBA.org … if you can’t read and comprehend, that’s on you

HOLD THAT L


3 - the only thing you’re right about is that I am not a Cali nikka .. and I’m not even arguing with you. I do have several family members that lived there and all of them don’t fukk with Mexicans. … and for the last time you keep ignoring the hatred they have for blacks , now i see why you was called /exposed as a c00n in this thread
HOLD THAT L
 

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1 - I read them articles and they’re pretty much meaningless because 75% of it is about how Mexico used to be California , taco trucks or Mexican cuisine …. why is it so hard for you to understand that the only people who practice Mexican culture are Mexicans themselves
they literally have zero influence on the rest of the demo in the state

HOLD THAT L


2 - I posted FBA.org … if you can’t read and comprehend, that’s on you
HOLD THAT L


3 - the only thing you’re right about is that I am not a Cali nikka .. and I’m not even arguing with you. I do have several family members that lived there and all of them don’t fukk with Mexicans. … and for the last time you keep ignoring the hatred they have for blacks , now i see why you was called /exposed as a c00n in this thread
HOLD THAT L
:picard:

Oh you angry now

1. The articles I posted gave reference to how Mexicos legacy in CA influenced its political and city structure etc. Saying it’s just about food is just you snitching on yourself for not reading

:mjlol:

2. FBA.org doesn’t say anything about the ethnogenesis you claimed. You are lying through your teeth on what the FBA website addresses and you fail to even answer the questions about your ownstatements. If you scared to speak on your personal perspective just say that.

3. You not even a Cali nikka and your only source of what’s going on in the whole state is your family members?!?!. lol.

Tell me what city they in

:mjgrin:
 
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