These days, the Chris Rock "Niiggas vs Black Ppl" bit kinda makes me cringe

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I fukking hate the excuse, "I have black friends! I can say whatever I want!!"

Black people aren't a free pass to say whatever you want. If you have black friends you shouldn't have to tout them to prove you're not racist.
 

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What's wrong with growing up despising being poor or going to inadequate schools? You SHOULD hate it, it's not natural and it's not right when there's other ppl with the privelege that from the time they're born they're rich for life.

I'm sure he didn't hate being black....he's just a comedian. As you grow, get older you learn...same with Dave Chappelle. You see some of the stuff you did early on, though you meant well, may have been kinda irresponsible.

Chris Rock was a full grown man when he done that routine, this wasn't CB4 or Im gonna git ya sucka or Pookie from New Jack City Chris Rock, this was a Black Man trying to set himself and other Black entertainers and Black elites apart from the larger Black community. It isn't a coincidence that Oprah had him on her show more than any other guest.

And you're right, no one likes being poor, but no likes someone who used to be poor stand up and say he can't stand n1ggas, because it was the n1ggas that had his back when he was in CB4 and new jack city. He was trying to make a distinction in a society doesn't care to make a distinction, Millionaires, Oscar award winners, doctors, lawyers, presidents, college educated, businesspeople, CEO's that are Black are still considered and called n1ggers.
 
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At that point the act needed to be done. If he didn't do it first some other black comedian (or white :scusthov: ) would have done it.

Chris did that so hopefully you won't have to go thru that :no:
 

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Chris Rock was a full grown man when he done that routine, this wasn't CB4 or Im gonna git ya sucka or Pookie from New Jack City Chris Rock, this was a Black Man trying to set himself and other Black entertainers and Black elites apart from the larger Black community. It isn't a coincidence that Oprah had him on her show more than any other guest.

And you're right, no one likes being poor, but no likes someone who used to be poor stand up and say he can't stand n1ggas, because it was the n1ggas that had his back when he was in CB4 and new jack city. He was trying to make a distinction in a society doesn't care to make a distinction, Millionaires, Oscar award winners, doctors, lawyers, presidents, college educated, businesspeople, CEO's that are Black are still considered and called n1ggers.

:rudy::rudy: He was not trying to make a distinction between Black elites and poor Blacks. I have seen this written many times by several posters and it does not make any sense, it was not Chris Rock coming at it from a multi-millionaire perspective looking down on everyone. He was coming at it from the perspective of a black dude who grew up in the hood and saw himself and his family as being different from the rest of the "nikkas" in his neighborhood. In "Everybody Hates Chris" there are many episodes where he makes that very clear. Growing up in the South Bronx I heard different variations of "nikkas vs Black People" espoused by my neighbors way before Chris did the skit, he just took a conversation that people have among themselves and put it on stage. I remember having Black folks in my hood that were janitors, maids, security guards, social workers,cab/truck drivers and had other blue collar jobs who talked about those "nikkas" who couldn't get their shyt together, even though they were living in the same neighborhood and sending their kids to same schools. It was not a matter of money or even about having a job, there was a feeling (real or perceived) about having different values. That was at the core of the skit, I highly doubt Chris Rock had some bougie high siddity Boule cotillion attending Black folks in mind when he refers to "Black people" throughout the skit.
 

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Chris Rock talks about it on here:




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It's funny seeing the resident coli c00n talking bout something making him cringe. Every time that nikka post I just :snoop:
 

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chris rock also said im allowed to say nikka if im quoting rap lyrics. he is a great man. god bless you Mr. Rock.

You're a nikka, too, You're just remove from the skin & genitals qualities of your ancestors.
 

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:rudy::rudy: He was not trying to make a distinction between Black elites and poor Blacks. I have seen this written many times by several posters and it does not make any sense, it was not Chris Rock coming at it from a multi-millionaire perspective looking down on everyone. He was coming at it from the perspective of a black dude who grew up in the hood and saw himself and his family as being different from the rest of the "nikkas" in his neighborhood. In "Everybody Hates Chris" there are many episodes where he makes that very clear. Growing up in the South Bronx I heard different variations of "nikkas vs Black People" espoused by my neighbors way before Chris did the skit, he just took a conversation that people have among themselves and put it on stage. I remember having Black folks in my hood that were janitors, maids, security guards, social workers,cab/truck drivers and had other blue collar jobs who talked about those "nikkas" who couldn't get their shyt together, even though they were living in the same neighborhood and sending their kids to same schools. It was not a matter of money or even about having a job, there was a feeling (real or perceived) about having different values. That was at the core of the skit, I highly doubt Chris Rock had some bougie high siddity Boule cotillion attending Black folks in mind when he refers to "Black people" throughout the skit.

That's true, but none of them stood up on stage for an HBO special saying that, also there have always been Black people in the neighborhood who thought they were good because they had 1 more dollar in their pockets than their neighbor. Fact is no matter where you stand in the Black community, we will all be considered "n1ggas or n1ggers" in white society. Nobody Black should take pleasure in the demise of other Blacks, but we do. Chris Rock realized that no matter what, no matter how much money or prestige, we will still be thought as "n1ggas". His routine would've had way more impact if he said that in the end, instead of just saying "I love Black people, but I hate n1ggas"

You take the blue collar or hard working Black person, and you take a thug or a hoodrat, put them in a lineup and ask a white person which one they think is the "n1gga", they are going to look at you and say "all of them". And that's why he's not doing the routine anymore, if he didn't think he went beyond a joke, he'd still be doing it.
 

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It's funny seeing the resident coli c00n talking bout something making him cringe. Every time that nikka post I just :snoop:

This pathetic attempt and yet, nobody dapped you. :upsetfavre: I guess everyone else is the c00n except for you.


Get off my jock. :pacspit:
 

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That's true, but none of them stood up on stage for an HBO special saying that, also there have always been Black people in the neighborhood who thought they were good because they had 1 more dollar in their pockets than their neighbor. Fact is no matter where you stand in the Black community, we will all be considered "n1ggas or n1ggers" in white society. Nobody Black should take pleasure in the demise of other Blacks, but we do. Chris Rock realized that no matter what, no matter how much money or prestige, we will still be thought as "n1ggas". His routine would've had way more impact if he said that in the end, instead of just saying "I love Black people, but I hate n1ggas"

You take the blue collar or hard working Black person, and you take a thug or a hoodrat, put them in a lineup and ask a white person which one they think is the "n1gga", they are going to look at you and say "all of them". And that's why he's not doing the routine anymore, if he didn't think he went beyond a joke, he'd still be doing it.

I definitely would not say he took "pleasure in the demise of other Blacks" he was joking about Black folks doing ignorant shyt. I don't think he suddenly realized that many white people look at all Black folks as nikkas, that is obvious by what was said in that same show and his shows before that. Rock was thinking of those blue collar folks when he did the skit, the skit revolved around the relationship between two groups... blue collar just living above poverty Black folks and a specific set of nikkas in the hood who do ignorant shyt on a daily basis. Maybe it's difficult for people outside of NYC to understand, but NY is a place where you have Black MTA workers who make 75K+ who still live one or two blocks from the PJ's so the interaction with "nikkas" is alot more commonplace than if you are Blue collar making that type of money in say the DMV. The only thing Chris is guilty of is being naive, he obviously didn't think white people would run with it the way they did.
 
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