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That's bull considered his return skyrocketed ticket prices for the rumble & WM when he was announced
Eh reselling ticket prices means what to wwe?? Those events were going to sell out anyway ! These things are pretty subjective , all im saying Is from wwe standpoint bryan isn't outperforming cena and he's apparently not blowing away reigns /ambrose in merch sales , he's not putting up attitude era ratings and nothing shows he's substantially increasing network buys . He's the best wresrler , he's over , he's popular , he's pushed . People say stuff like Ohh Rock Austin main evented multiple manias but he's not putting up their numbers so it's not really the same thing . Brett went from Maineventing to fightinh bob backlund while diesel ( I think main evented or undertaker or lt or someone else I forget ) If cena still gets the best numbers yet he's not maineventing why does bryan have too ?
 

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Why does every thread in this place turn into a thread about Roman Reigns?
"He's getting booed."
"He's getting cheered."
Give it a rest. Holy shyt.
:why:
 

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Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Top merchandise sellers for WWE in the late summer/early fall at live events, in order, includes John Cena, Roman Reigns, The Usos, The Wyatt Family, Brock Lesnar, Sting, Sheamus, Daniel Bryan, Dean Ambrose and Hulk Hogan. Cena's merchandise sales were described as "greatly outdistancing everyone else" when fully broken down.

For orders through WWE Shop, the top 10 best sellers were Cena, Ambrose, Reigns, Lesnar, Steve Austin, AJ Lee, Bryan, Brie Bella, Hogan and The Ultimate Warrior.
Ok show me your numbers . I'll wait . I said he's numbers aren't equating the push people want him to have in wwes eyes . If reigns/ambrose numbers are even close to Bryan's merch numbers then wwe has a case not to push him .


Has a case not to him? What about sell out crowds? Ppv numbers? Houseshow sell outs? U actually think anyone sane nygga is gonna believe Roman is magically selling a ton of merchandise? Why isn't it visible? You nyggas cherry pick when to believe Meltzer all the time. Flop as much as he does. So that shyt is bogus too.
 

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Why does every thread in this place turn into a thread about Roman Reigns?
"He's getting booed."
"He's getting cheered."
Give it a rest. Holy shyt.
:why:


Probably because he, Blandy, and Cena are protected and everyone else is held back..put down...lowered. Believe it or not, fans aren't into corporate puppets.
 

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Eh reselling ticket prices means what to wwe?? Those events were going to sell out anyway ! These things are pretty subjective , all im saying Is from wwe standpoint bryan isn't outperforming cena and he's apparently not blowing away reigns /ambrose in merch sales , he's not putting up attitude era ratings and nothing shows he's substantially increasing network buys . He's the best wresrler , he's over , he's popular , he's pushed . People say stuff like Ohh Rock Austin main evented multiple manias but he's not putting up their numbers so it's not really the same thing . Brett went from Maineventing to fightinh bob backlund while diesel ( I think main evented or undertaker or lt or someone else I forget ) If cena still gets the best numbers yet he's not maineventing why does bryan have too ?
Bullshyt i was monitoring the tickets on ticketmaster & stubhub before and after his return announcements.

The day after he announced his return multiple sections had sold out.

As for outselling Cena in merch it's been acknowledged by many that WWE won't allow it the same they didn't allow CM Punk to surpass him. Look at his number of items compared to everyone else.
 

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Bullshyt i was monitoring the tickets on ticketmaster & stubhub before and after his return announcements.

The day after he announced his return multiple sections had sold out.

As for outselling Cena in merch it's been acknowledged by many that WWE won't allow it the same they didn't allow CM Punk to surpass him. Look at his number of items compared to everyone else.
ok but maybe the prices went up partly went up because idk it was closer to the date of the rumble ? I was never in here bigging up reigns at all until now ( I been on the ambrose or ziggler wagon actually )and said Bryan would be a better match but let's not act like the case for him is so far ahead of anyone that wwe is losing money when actually it's more of a draw . Let reigns flop if he's gonna flop then we can roast him until
Then it just coming off as hate .
Has a case not to him? What about sell out crowds? Ppv numbers? Houseshow sell outs? U actually think anyone sane nygga is gonna believe Roman is magically selling a ton of merchandise? Why isn't it visible? You nyggas cherry pick when to believe Meltzer all the time. Flop as much as he does. So that shyt is bogus too.
Wait you brought up meltzer not me :heh: where are you getting your figures from if not dirt sheets ?? Micheal Hayes ?stock report ? Meltzer isn't cosigning reigns so stop it maybe bryan isn't doing the numbers you think he is .if he was doing Austin /rock numbers ok but if he's doing comparable numbers to others even after maineventing last mania idk what to say .Bryan got put over cena clean for the belt and headlined mania yet you act like he's being rydered. Maybe if bryan had better shirts his stuff would sell more. I can't wait for some negative report on reigns from meltzer that you run in here and post .
 

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WWE tries to be slick with it. They want to milk D-Bry's popularity as much as possible without pushing him and promoting him as their biggest or second biggest star.

That still leaves a ton of money on the table, but you can see how they want him close enough of the main programs to get at least something out of him. It's so stupid :snoop:
Makes it even more annoying too..

Vince,Steph,HHH weren't lying when they said they see him as a B+ player.:francis:

Thing is the fans proved them wrong by sticking with him,and in return they troll the fans.
 

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Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Top merchandise sellers for WWE in the late summer/early fall at live events, in order, includes John Cena, Roman Reigns, The Usos, The Wyatt Family, Brock Lesnar, Sting, Sheamus, Daniel Bryan, Dean Ambrose and Hulk Hogan. Cena's merchandise sales were described as "greatly outdistancing everyone else" when fully broken down.

For orders through WWE Shop, the top 10 best sellers were Cena, Ambrose, Reigns, Lesnar, Steve Austin, AJ Lee, Bryan, Brie Bella, Hogan and The Ultimate Warrior.
Ok show me your numbers . I'll wait . I said he's numbers aren't equating the push people want him to have in wwes eyes . If reigns/ambrose numbers are even close to Bryan's merch numbers then wwe has a case not to push him .

That was in the Summer when Bryan was injured, not on TV and his merch wasn't as pushed at everyone else for obvious reasons (he wasn't n TV).

Before that. He was the n°2 behind Cena.

The reaction to that shouldn't be "see, he's not a difference maker!". Instead is should be "how can we make this guy who gets the biggest reactions and has people hijacking shows reach the n°1 spot". THAT'S the problem I and many other have with the way Daniel Bryan is booked. Instead they just half ass - by giving him a push, not THE push - it with him and get mediocre results. Makes no sense.

Eh reselling ticket prices means what to wwe?? Those events were going to sell out anyway ! These things are pretty subjective , all im saying Is from wwe standpoint bryan isn't outperforming cena and he's apparently not blowing away reigns /ambrose in merch sales , he's not putting up attitude era ratings and nothing shows he's substantially increasing network buys . He's the best wresrler , he's over , he's popular , he's pushed . People say stuff like Ohh Rock Austin main evented multiple manias but he's not putting up their numbers so it's not really the same thing . Brett went from Maineventing to fightinh bob backlund while diesel ( I think main evented or undertaker or lt or someone else I forget ) If cena still gets the best numbers yet he's not maineventing why does bryan have too ?

That's the mentality that makes no damn sense breh.

As a promoter you shouldn't go "eh, he's the most over dude in my roster but he's not blowing everyone away drawing wise. Let's cool him down". Your job as a promoter is make the most out of someone that gets the reactions that Bryan has.

Rock and Austin weren't selling out places from day 1. shyt, it took a year for Austin to skyrocket.

Well this isn't really true . They push bryan constantly though , just because he's not headlining this mania people act like he's finished . How about we let this whole reigns thing play out ? Because as much of a reaction that bryan gets they have said his merch and house show numbers don't necessarily translate :yeshrug:

:dahell: in the post you quoted I specifically said they do push Bryan. Just not as much as they should for a guy who was as over as he was.

I'm not talking about Reigns or any of that shyt, don't know why you are bringing him up. It's funny though how no one in WWE holds against Roman the fact that he's the n°3 or 4 most over babyface. Has no merch numbers to show and isn't being given the responsibility to draw house shows. That double standard is worthy of criticism, right?
 

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That was in the Summer when Bryan was injured, not on TV and his merch wasn't as pushed at everyone else for obvious reasons (he wasn't n TV).

Before that. He was the n°2 behind Cena.

The reaction to that shouldn't be "see, he's not a difference maker!". Instead is should be "how can we make this guy who gets the biggest reactions and has people hijacking shows reach the n°1 spot". THAT'S the problem I and many other have with the way Daniel Bryan is booked. Instead they just half ass - by giving him a push, not THE push - it with him and get mediocre results. Makes no sense.



That's the mentality that makes no damn sense breh.

As a promoter you shouldn't go "eh, he's the most over dude in my roster but he's not blowing everyone away drawing wise. Let's cool him down". Your job as a promoter is make the most out of someone that gets the reactions that Bryan has.

Rock and Austin weren't selling out places from day 1. shyt, it took a year for Austin to skyrocket.



:dahell: in the post you quoted I specifically said they do push Bryan. Just not as much as they should for a guy who was as over as he was.

I'm not talking about Reigns or any of that shyt, don't know why you are bringing him up. It's funny though how no one in WWE holds against Roman the fact that he's the n°3 or 4 most over babyface. Has no merch numbers to show and isn't being given the responsibility to draw house shows. That double standard is worthy of criticism, right?
Im no huge reigns fan but so what ? Punk still sold merch and he was off tv too . Bryan's merch just isn't great and even estimates now don't gave bryan blowing anything away merch or ratings . Im not saying wwe is right and you make very valid points which I have also made but since you seem reasonable can you see how wwe might look at Bryan's numbers and be like well how about we let reigns main event mania and see what his numbers look like ? Especially if they arent high on bryan ? You can say Austin rock didn't do that from day 1 but I bet by the time there were multiple world champs and headlined manias Im sure they were . You can't be sure that a rollins reigns or ambrose pushed same as bryan might get similar numbers to bryan . At the end of the day vince will find reasons to push or not push someone as its his call but let's be real he let the guy mainevent mania and then he got hurt like right away and missed the rest of the year he partially cooled his own self off .
If Reigns was getting batista/orton reactions Id understand but he's not
 

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Im no huge reigns fan but so what ? Punk still sold merch and he was off tv too . Bryan's merch just isn't great and even estimates now don't gave bryan blowing anything away merch or ratings . Im not saying wwe is right and you make very valid points which I have also made but since you seem reasonable can you see how wwe might look at Bryan's numbers and be like well how about we let reigns main event mania and see what his numbers look like ? Especially if they arent high on bryan ? You can say Austin rock didn't do that from day 1 but I bet by the time there were multiple world champs and headlined manias Im sure they were . You can't be sure that a rollins reigns or ambrose pushed same as bryan might get similar numbers to bryan . At the end of the day vince will find reasons to push or not push someone as its his call but let's be real he let the guy mainevent mania and then he got hurt like right away and missed the rest of the year he partially cooled his own self off .
If Reigns was getting batista/orton reactions Id understand but he's not

Off course I get WWE/Vince's logic regarding Bryan. I just don't agree with it and criticize them for it. The same way I've criticize them for the way they've booked Reigns since he came back. Or what they did to Ambrose.
 

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Off course I get WWE/Vince's logic regarding Bryan. I just don't agree with it and criticize them for it. The same way I've criticize them for the way they've booked Reigns since he came back. Or what they did to Ambrose.
Your right , especially with ambrose :to: but to me I think the way people are acting is if they just fired dbry . He can get another chance all we have to do is keep supporting him and let reigns flop ( now if he doesn't flop then I guess vince was right ) this mania build to me isn't the best nor worse . People complain about stuff like orton , he got jumped by the authority and his character is a conniving psycho why would he run out and then get out numbered again ? He has no allies in the locker room storyline wise so it was smart to weasel his way close to Seth. And the wyatt feud he has a better reason to fight taker than punk , hhh or lesnar yet people act like his logic is stupid . ( I have no idea how the match will be but that's neither here nor there ) some of this is just complaining
 
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