These lil nikkas have no respect for the history of the genre

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

See this is where I gotta disagree. Premier beats are a barometer - one of many - in the rap game.
If you can rock over one of them, people know you ain't bullchittin' with your art.

There was a time when people might have said Death Row's "lane" isn't Premier beats.
But when you're really about your rappin', you'll accept (even welcome) those types of challenges;
that's to prove "I can do me - but I can do YOUR chit, too..."

Lady of Rage was born and raised in VA, she was merely affiliated with a west coast label. VA is respected in "backpack" circles, and she was well known among MCs.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Here today gone tomorrow

Honestly trap is one of the worst things to happen to rap. It's like late 70s disco at this point: factory manufactured predictable trash that is pumped out and repeated non stop. It's killing musical curiousity and the way ppl appreciate shyt. To the point if you don't got 808s kids don't fukk with it...

Look how it one song has a certain song effect every song starts using it. Jungle Beats had that crow sound effect in Hot Boy then everyone started using it. Now everyone using that Ironside/Kill Bill alert effect. shyt is mad corny and brain dead


And yes I like many trap songs but still

 

[Wild self]

Trap music jumped the shark in 2013. What we seeing now is the hyper active scene on the verge of imploding on itself.

Also, I believe that black music is going back to a 90s style revival. When a better alternative to trap music comes along, a lot of these weak ass rappers gonna be starving.

 

[Wild self]

Here today gone tomorrow

Honestly trap is one of the worst things to happen to rap. It's like late 70s disco at this point: factory manufactured predictable trash that is pumped out and repeated non stop. It's killing musical curiousity and the way ppl appreciate shyt. To the point if you don't got 808s kids don't fukk with it...

Look how it one song has a certain song effect every song starts using it. Jungle Beats had that crow sound effect in Hot Boy then everyone started using it. Now everyone using that Ironside/Kill Bill alert effect. shyt is mad corny and brain dead


And yes I like many trap songs but still

Trap music post 2010 was the worst thing to happen in black music period. It stagnated black artists to be one monolithic being and made some of the worst quality music with shytty messages and lowest replayability. That is why they flood the mixtape scene with it, because it can't last the test of time.

From 2003 to 2010, you had prime TI, prime Jeezy, Lil Wayne, and even Gucci Mane put effort in their music. After 2011, cats like Kendrick,Cole, Odd Future, and even Lupe put out fire on the mainstream level. That was the way out of the trap scene, but the forces put out Future, Young Thug, and Rich Homie Quan from 2013 onward and killed the mini lyrical revival.

Now in 2016, it is hearing these Generation Z kids rapping mumbling, autotune, and so on. They young enough to be the kids of Jeezy, TI, and the first wave of trap rappers. That revival of the 90s vibe music can't come fast enough.

 

[Wild self]

I been seeing young punks post like this forever and they always eat their words... Pete Rock and DJ Premier made music that lasted decades. These dudes don't last a month. Y'all hype crazes and phases switch up way too often. This lil nikka and you will be irrelevant long before the architects of classics.

Calling nikkaz dusty when ya lil niglets the dustiest generation yet. Nikkaz before 30

That Lean and Molly make these cats looking and dirty before they hit 25. I bet you they don't even get carded when buying alcohol

These Chief Keef/Gucci Mane knockoffs are replaceable as hell. Their music can't last past a week before hearing another mixtape, from a rapper that sounds exactly like them with slightly better production.

 

[Wild self]

The whole premise of this thread was a young dude disrespecting the older generation. Don't try to flip it around. It's bad enough that the younger generation lacks the depth and intelligence of the older generation. What makes it worse is when they have the nerve to rip on the generation superior to them in every way. They should have a little respect.

But this is all part of the dumbing down/dehumanizing agenda…so I'm not surprised.

How do people not see the agenda? LL came before my time, but I always appreciated his efforts, as well as Kool G Rap and so on. These kids just want to make music that caters to thots and sellouts, just to make a dollar. The dumbing down of the generations is real. And the dehumanizing effects of making songs with no emotions or purpose.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

I rarely heard BIG rap over any beats over 5 years old in his freestyles. 1 with the Kane sample.. that's it.

Nas only made records with is contemporaries.

Nas has done songs with slick rick and kool g rap

 

[Piff Perkins]

Like you could argue that some traditional Premo beats lack melody and thus a melodic trap rapper wouldn't fukk with it. But Uzi wasn't even saying that. He dismissed it outright for being old. What else does he and this generation dismiss as old btw? James Brown? Michael Jackson?

 

[tuckgod]

I rarely heard BIG rap over any beats over 5 years old in his freestyles. 1 with the Kane sample.. that's it.

Nas only made records with is contemporaries.

Man, Biggie rapped over PSK and put it on his ALBUM. fukk is you talking about? And Nas made an entire song about Rakim. He didn't have to do a joint with him.

 

[FreshAIG]

I like Astro but he really needs to stop with the whole "jacking retro style of rap" he's doing. Joey Badass is a nice balance. Astros is just over the top. Every song he raps over is like 25 years old. He trying too hard to recreate a feel that you can't manufacture. He wasn't even born during that time it comes off as pretentious. I hate nostalgia acts. I lived through that era and it's my favorite era ever but stop trying to bring it back. You sound dated as fukk when you do that.

 

[Loop Ba$eCrawler]

Isaiah Rashad is 24. Joey Badass 21

I did say there's a handful of younger mc's. I like both of them but the majority of stuff that gets all the attention is the junkie/strip club/designer clothes promo music. That type of stuff only has a shelf life of a few weeks to a few months. Not saying you have to be like Talib Kweli or some spoken word poetry on every track but at least say something.

 

[Wild self]

Like you could argue that some traditional Premo beats lack melody and thus a melodic trap rapper wouldn't fukk with it. But Uzi wasn't even saying that. He dismissed it outright for being old. What else does he and this generation dismiss as old btw? James Brown? Michael Jackson?

Hate to say it, but Generation X failed to raise Generation Z properly. If that cat was my son, I would be ashamed.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Here today gone tomorrow

Honestly trap is one of the worst things to happen to rap. It's like late 70s disco at this point: factory manufactured predictable trash that is pumped out and repeated non stop. It's killing musical curiousity and the way ppl appreciate shyt. To the point if you don't got 808s kids don't fukk with it...

Look how it one song has a certain song effect every song starts using it. Jungle Beats had that crow sound effect in Hot Boy then everyone started using it. Now everyone using that Ironside/Kill Bill alert effect. shyt is mad corny and brain dead


And yes I like many trap songs but still

It's Jahlil beats.

 

[Fani Willis fan]

Trap music post 2010 was the worst thing to happen in black music period. It stagnated black artists to be one monolithic being and made some of the worst quality music with shytty messages and lowest replayability. That is why they flood the mixtape scene with it, because it can't last the test of time.

From 2003 to 2010, you had prime TI, prime Jeezy, Lil Wayne, and even Gucci Mane put effort in their music. After 2011, cats like Kendrick,Cole, Odd Future, and even Lupe put out fire on the mainstream level. That was the way out of the trap scene, but the forces put out Future, Young Thug, and Rich Homie Quan from 2013 onward and killed the mini lyrical revival.

Now in 2016, it is hearing these Generation Z kids rapping mumbling, autotune, and so on. They young enough to be the kids of Jeezy, TI, and the first wave of trap rappers. That revival of the 90s vibe music can't come fast enough.

Kendrick and Cole are still 2 of the top 3 hottest artists in the game...

the state of hip hop is no different than the crunk and ring tone eras. A lot of regurgitated southern rap, but lyrics and message are still at the forefront.

 

[Wild self]

Kendrick and Cole are still 2 of the top 3 hottest artists in the game...

the state of hip hop is no different than the crunk era. A lot of regurgitated southern rap, but lyrics and message are still at the forefront.

According to these kids, Cole and Kendrick are not "organic" aka don't conform to the trap beats and make shytty trap music that last one month. They push these mumbling rappers with studio assisted effects, though.