These NBA Players Act Like the Mean Girls in High School Against Giannis

[Professor Emeritus]

nikka he gets to avg those # because of the attention Dame gets

I saw the pelicans trap and double dame every single play in the post season just because they knew CJ can't beat em

CJ is going one on one against the 2nd n 3rd best defenders on the other team


CJ puts 0 pressure on the other team. Doesn't get to the line, doesn't put the other team in foul trouble or the bonus.

Dude is the main reason Dame will NEVER win a ring.

And?

The claim was that he's inefficient. He's not.

 

[get these nets]

@KingJay

Disregard the silly title of this video, but watch 6'4" Jason Kidd play stellar defense on KD



This was in spot duty, in crunch time situations....even though both Shawn Marion and Tyson Chandler were on the Mavs roster.

 

[ISO]

Giannis should say "I wish I could spam step back threes all day and flop my way into 12 FT's a game"

 

[Skooby]

CJ should shut the fukk up. He the reason we home right now.

 

[frush11]

Thats cause they know what Giannis really is and they’re mad they aint in that spot, hes a globalist asset being propped up by the NBA to expand viewership outside the States

I mean lets be real, hes big and strong and once in a lifetime athlete but he aint hooping like CJ or Beal, nor defending like Draymond, he has ZERO bag

refs let him get away with all kinds of travels, carries, offensive fouls, ten second violations, etc cause thats their job to

Giannis a ball player in the same way Drake is a rapper, his peers respect his success but they know he aint THAT good

No amount of bad calls can make someone a 20 plus point scorer in the NBA. This just sounds so ludicrous

 

[eastside313]

Giannis had 3 fouls that game, he was not in foul trouble down the stretch. Low center of gravity and all that is something in the post, not when KD is dropping damn near 50 shooting right over PJ because he's 6" shorter. If Giannis is all-defensive first team at 6'11" with that wingspan, should he not be able to stay in front of KD and use his length to bother him and have good defensive instincts?

I can understand not doing it all night and all series, but when PJ fouls out in OT and the guy you put in KD is Khris Middleton and not Giannis who should be the player you build in a lab to cover KD that certainly strikes me as a bit off

Giannis is a center. Kd is a guard.

 

[KingJay]

@KingJay

Disregard the silly title of this video, but watch 6'4" Jason Kidd play stellar defense on KD



This was in spot duty, in crunch time situations....even though both Shawn Marion and Tyson Chandler were on the Mavs roster.

I remember this, but I also think KD has become a very different player since then. He used to get locked up by smaller guys all the time then, but he's added a good bit of strength, post skills, and refined his overall game since then

I'm not saying those guys can't play good defense on KD, I'm saying if Giannis is supposed to be all-defensive first team he should be the guy you go to over Middleton. Kidd was a great defender, Middleton isn't.

When KD drove to the lane late in the game, Giannis and Lopez were there to greet him. A few times altering or blocking his shot.

Other Nets were hobbled or scared...take your chance with a solid defender and try to limit what KD does with team defense.

The block was thanks to Brook, and I think they were really fortunate in a lot of those situations that KD just didn't have the energy anymore. You should want to prevent him from getting there in the first place. You can't bank your defense on KD getting layups

 

[big bun]

These NBA dudes are soft as hell. You ain’t on they dikk trying to be they friend and they will shun your ass like this is elementary school.

 

[Darealtwo1]

And?

The claim was that he's inefficient. He's not.

FT and getting to the strip is part of being an efficient nba player

You are getting efficient mixed up with shooting percentages

That's like saying CJ McCollum is a more efficient player than James Harden

No he isn't, he just has better shooting percentages than James Harden

 

[Professor Emeritus]

FT and getting to the strip is part of being an efficient nba player

You are getting efficient mixed up with shooting percentages

That's like saying CJ McCollum is a more efficient player than James Harden

No he isn't, he just has better shooting percentages than James Harden

What are you even trying to argue?

I didn't say that McCollum was "more efficient" or "less efficient" than anyone in particular. But a SG who makes 50% of his 2pt shots and 40% of his 3pt shots is not inefficient, especially when they're doing it on jump shots. Portland benefits from CJ's floor-spacing and efficiency as a scorer. It's his lack of defense that causes problems for them.

 

[Darealtwo1]

What are you even trying to argue?

I didn't say that McCollum was "more efficient" or "less efficient" than anyone in particular. But a SG who makes 50% of his 2pt shots and 40% of his 3pt shots is not inefficient, especially when they're doing it on jump shots. Portland benefits from CJ's floor-spacing and efficiency as a scorer. It's his lack of defense that causes problems for them.

YOU ARE STILL GETTING SHOOTING PERCENTAGES MIXED UP WITH EFFICENCY I BROKE IT DOWN AS CLEAR AS I COULD WITH THE HARDEN ANOLOGY. IF THAT DOESN'T CLICK THEN IT NEVER WILL FOR YOU

 

[nyknick]

I been thinking it all series tho. How is Giannis All-Defensive First Team over PJ Tucker if PJ is the one the team has guard KD?
And don't forget PJ is the one the team puts on KD despite PJ being like 6" shorter and Giannis being the literal perfect height and length matchup for KD? PJ must be a WAY better defender to make up for that, right?
Make it make sense

How is this so hard to understand

1. Giannis is not a perimeter defender. He's a rim/paint protector and help defender. He doesn't have the lateral speed and isn't slick enough to stay with KD without fouling.

2. KD is unstoppable and only defenders that have had any success are smaller players that are able to get under him and get to spots before KD does. Length doesn't matter once KD gets to his spot and rises up, nobody in this world is blocking/altering his shot. And even with a smaller defender KD eventually adjusts.

3. Since KD is unstoppable it's inefficient to waste your best player's energy on defending someone that can't be stopped one-on-one. Giannis was already dead tired in the middle of the 4th quarter even though he was guarding Bruce Brown. Do you want Giannis guarding KD and PJ Tucker to be your go to guy for points?

4. Giannis guarded KD a few times before and got torched so it doesn't make sense any way you look at it.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

YOU ARE STILL GETTING SHOOTING PERCENTAGES MIXED UP WITH EFFICENCY I BROKE IT DOWN AS CLEAR AS I COULD WITH THE HARDEN ANOLOGY. IF THAT DOESN'T CLICK THEN IT NEVER WILL FOR YOU

Breh, you would think your banner and the way people talk to you here would humble you at some point. You just keep shouting the same thing instead of listening and thinking through it. Shooting percentages are an important aspect of efficiency regardless of whether you get to the line. A 40% 3pt shooter is an efficient shooter even if he never gets to the line at all, due solely to the fact that he's getting on average 1.2 points per shot with a shot that's easy to set up (unlikely to be associated with turnovers) and opens up the floor for other players. By obsessing over how often CJ gets to the line and I assume focusing solely on TS% you're acting completely ignorant of context.

And on top of all that, you're completely off-track anyway as CJ's TS% is above league average, especially for guards, and in the same range as several all-star guards (in the Brown/Mitchell/Conley/Tatum range).

 

[GPBear]

People talk shyt every day b

 

[MAGNETO.]

Seems like Jokic and Giannis get along with eachother, but not the rest of the superstars. Maybe it’s a US vs international thing?

those European dudes must not do the whole fake love thing. I respect it.