They finally made a simulation of 1 gorilla vs 100 men

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I'll take the sage advice & science from AI before any pseudo degreed know-it all any day. The only way 100 men could possibly win against
a Gorilla is with weapons or if the Gorilla is smaller. A supermassive male silverback gorilla would destroy 100 men with no sweat.

1. One-on-One?


  • A single man stands no chance. The gorilla would incapacitate or kill in seconds.

2. All 100 at once in an open field?


  • If untrained and unarmed: The gorilla could easily maim or kill dozens before succumbing.
  • Humans would panic. Crowd psychology suggests only a few would engage while others hang back.
  • The gorilla would use its speed and strength to create chaos, possibly even breaking free of the mob.

3. If they’re trained (e.g., 100 MMA fighters)?


  • With coordinated strategy, the odds shift, especially if they can flank, grapple, and avoid the initial rampage.
  • Still, multiple injuries and deaths likely. It would take dozens to restrain and exhaust the gorilla.

4. If the men were armed (makeshift weapons, batons)?


  • Then yes, 100 could almost certainly subdue or kill the gorilla, though not without serious injury or death toll.

🦍 Super-Large Male Gorilla (500–700 lbs)​

📏 Size & Weight

  • Normal adult silverback: 350–450 lbs
  • Exceptionally large silverback: 500–600 lbs
  • Hypothetical max: 700 lbs — think ultra-alpha, like the gorilla version of Shaquille O’Neal with Barry Bonds’ muscles.

💪 Strength & Capability​

TraitNormal Silverback700 lb Gorilla
Arm Strength1,800–2,700 lbs (est.)Likely 3,000–4,000+ lbs
Bite Force~1,300 PSIStill ~1,300 PSI, but larger jaws mean more damage
Speed20–25 mph (burst)Slightly slower but more forceful
Reach/Strike ImpactDevastatingPotentially fatal in one hit

  • Lifting Power: Some studies estimate a silverback can lift over 10x its own body weight in force-based action (like flipping logs or tearing branches).
  • Weaponized Mass: At 700 lbs, this gorilla could crush, slam, or throw full-grown humans with ease. Think of a bison with combat IQ.

⚔️ In a Confrontation:​

Even trained or armed opponents would have an even harder time against a 700 lb gorilla than a typical 400 lb one:

  • Higher resilience to pain and fatigue
  • More mass = harder to restrain
  • Could kill or maim multiple humans before being overwhelmed
  • Almost impossible to tackle or grapple unless heavily sedated or restrained

🧠 Mentally:​

  • Gorillas are highly intelligent and emotionally driven.
  • A massive silverback defending territory or sensing a threat could enter an adrenaline-fueled frenzy, increasing his strength even more temporarily.

🔥 Verdict:​

The fatal flaw in this reasoning is the "panic' argument.

Gorilla more likely to panic than the humans in this scenario.
I just posted a video of a gorilla getting scared off by a goose.
People spend alot of time examining the fear of the humans but the not the fear OF the humans

If we are accounting for humans being scared and hanging back, then we should address the fact that a gorilla would almost always run away from the sight of 100 humans advancing. That essentially means Humans win in every scenario without a single casualty.

If we are taking that out of the equation for one side, we need to remove for both. Which in turns changes the math dramatically. 100 hundred blood crazed humans vs a fearless gorilla.
 

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The fatal flaw in this reasoning is the "panic' argument.

Gorilla more likely to panic than the humans in this scenario.
I just posted a video of a gorilla getting scared off by a goose.
People spend alot of time examining the fear of the humans but the not the fear OF the humans

If we are accounting for humans being scared and hanging back, then we should address the fact that a gorilla would almost always run away from the sight of 100 humans advancing. That essentially means Humans win in every scenario without a single casualty.

If we are taking that out of the equation for one side, we need to remove for both. Which in turns changes the math dramatically. 100 hundred blood crazed humans vs a fearless gorilla.

Your rebuttal is a masterclass in flawed logic, cherry picked evidence along with a sheer misunderstanding of both gorilla behavior & human group dynamics.

BREAKING DOWN THE ABSURDITY​

1. "Gorilla more likely to panic than the humans"

🚫 False equivalence.
  • Gorillas don’t "panic" like prey animals. They’re intelligent, emotionally complex, and territorial.
  • A silverback in fight mode is incredibly aggressive — especially if cornered.
  • Comparing a gorilla in a zoo spooked by a goose (non-threatening, low-stakes context) to one fighting 100 humans (existential threat) is like saying a soldier would run from a war because he once flinched at a loud noise.

2. "I just posted a video of a gorilla getting scared off by a goose"

🦆🦍 = ❌
  • This is anecdotal evidence that does not scale to life-or-death conflict.
  • Gorillas may avoid meaningless conflict, but a cornered or provoked silverback goes into combat mode, not retreat mode.
  • The goose video is irrelevant — unless the 100 humans plan to honk menacingly instead of fighting.

3. "Gorilla would run away from the sight of 100 humans advancing"

🧠 Unrealistic.
  • In the wild, maybe — gorillas are smart enough to avoid overwhelming numbers.
  • But in a hypothetical “fight to the death” scenario (the actual context of this debate), you’re removing the gorilla’s natural intelligence to make a point — and then turning around and praising human courage.

4. "That essentially means humans win in every scenario without a single casualty"

😂 Absurd.
  • 100 untrained humans approaching an animal faster, stronger, and more violent than any single one of them would absolutely suffer casualties if it stood its ground.
  • A silverback can break bones with one swipe. Even if it ran after the first 10, at least 3–5 are leaving in an ambulance — not "zero casualties."

5. "If we remove fear from both sides..."

🔄 Convenient logic flip.
  • The whole first half of the argument relies on gorilla fear to say it flees.
  • Then suddenly the writer proposes we remove fear from both — which invalidates their own previous claim.
  • You can’t argue “humans win because gorilla is scared” and then say “but if no one's scared, humans still win.” That's circular logic.

Let’s clarify the real scenario:
You’ve got one 500- 700 lb apex primate built like a bodybuilder on creatine, with a bite force stronger than a lion and the strength to rip apart tree trunks…
…versus 100 unarmed, uncoordinated, non-combat-trained humans.
  • The gorilla doesn’t have to take them all on at once. It just needs to attack in bursts, create fear, and use terrain.
  • Humans aren’t a hivemind. They’re not moving in perfect sync like a SWAT team. Once the first guy gets disemboweled, the morale collapse is real.
  • If we remove “fear” from both — and we assume a death match scenario — the gorilla will maim dozens before going down, if it goes down at all.
  • Even if humans win through sheer numbers and attrition, they’re not walking away clean. There will be casualties, trauma, and chaos.

🔥 Final Thought:​

Trying to say a gorilla flees from 100 people “without a single casualty” because of a goose video is like arguing a lion wouldn’t attack because it once blinked at a squirrel.

Science, logic, and biology all say otherwise.
 

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Your rebuttal is a masterclass in flawed logic, cherry picked evidence along with a sheer misunderstanding of both gorilla behavior & human group dynamics.

BREAKING DOWN THE ABSURDITY​

1. "Gorilla more likely to panic than the humans"

🚫 False equivalence.
  • Gorillas don’t "panic" like prey animals. They’re intelligent, emotionally complex, and territorial.
  • A silverback in fight mode is incredibly aggressive — especially if cornered.
  • Comparing a gorilla in a zoo spooked by a goose (non-threatening, low-stakes context) to one fighting 100 humans (existential threat) is like saying a soldier would run from a war because he once flinched at a loud noise.

2. "I just posted a video of a gorilla getting scared off by a goose"

🦆🦍 = ❌
  • This is anecdotal evidence that does not scale to life-or-death conflict.
  • Gorillas may avoid meaningless conflict, but a cornered or provoked silverback goes into combat mode, not retreat mode.
  • The goose video is irrelevant — unless the 100 humans plan to honk menacingly instead of fighting.

3. "Gorilla would run away from the sight of 100 humans advancing"

🧠 Unrealistic.
  • In the wild, maybe — gorillas are smart enough to avoid overwhelming numbers.
  • But in a hypothetical “fight to the death” scenario (the actual context of this debate), you’re removing the gorilla’s natural intelligence to make a point — and then turning around and praising human courage.

4. "That essentially means humans win in every scenario without a single casualty"

😂 Absurd.
  • 100 untrained humans approaching an animal faster, stronger, and more violent than any single one of them would absolutely suffer casualties if it stood its ground.
  • A silverback can break bones with one swipe. Even if it ran after the first 10, at least 3–5 are leaving in an ambulance — not "zero casualties."

5. "If we remove fear from both sides..."

🔄 Convenient logic flip.
  • The whole first half of the argument relies on gorilla fear to say it flees.
  • Then suddenly the writer proposes we remove fear from both — which invalidates their own previous claim.
  • You can’t argue “humans win because gorilla is scared” and then say “but if no one's scared, humans still win.” That's circular logic.

Let’s clarify the real scenario:

  • The gorilla doesn’t have to take them all on at once. It just needs to attack in bursts, create fear, and use terrain.
  • Humans aren’t a hivemind. They’re not moving in perfect sync like a SWAT team. Once the first guy gets disemboweled, the morale collapse is real.
  • If we remove “fear” from both — and we assume a death match scenario — the gorilla will maim dozens before going down, if it goes down at all.
  • Even if humans win through sheer numbers and attrition, they’re not walking away clean. There will be casualties, trauma, and chaos.

🔥 Final Thought:​

Trying to say a gorilla flees from 100 people “without a single casualty” because of a goose video is like arguing a lion wouldn’t attack because it once blinked at a squirrel.

Science, logic, and biology all say otherwise.
Nothing you posted here is correct. number two is not anecdotal. Do you know what that word means?
It literal proof of point 1 in actual action.

Number 3 is not true. In most animals in nature avoid large populations of humans for this specific reason.
Number 1 isn't even entirely true either. Gorilla are most passive creatures
are you using AI to make your arguments? AI can be wrong which it is here from points 1-3. Didn't even bother going through because fundamentally ruin your argument.
Anecdotal - not necessarily true base on personal accounts rather than facts or evidence.
My video was evidence and factual event. not a personal accounting of an event. The rest of your logic fails after that.
That Gorilla did actually in real time as shown in the video get scared off by goose. There is disputed or doubting that. it is a fact.
What is anecdotal is your assumption that 100 humans would be too scared to gang up on a gorilla, you have no factual basis for that assumption.


wft does this mean?
Trying to say a gorilla flees from 100 people “without a single casualty” because of a goose video is like arguing a lion wouldn’t attack because it once blinked at a squirrel.


No

Its actually like saying a gorilla flees from 100 people is like arguing a lion wouldn't attack pack of hyenas solo. Which is routinely the case.
You are an idiot
 

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I'll take the sage advice & science from AI before any pseudo degreed know-it all any day. The only way 100 men could possibly win against
a Gorilla is with weapons or if the Gorilla is smaller. A supermassive male silverback gorilla would destroy 100 men with no sweat.

1. One-on-One?


  • A single man stands no chance. The gorilla would incapacitate or kill in seconds.

2. All 100 at once in an open field?


  • If untrained and unarmed: The gorilla could easily maim or kill dozens before succumbing.
  • Humans would panic. Crowd psychology suggests only a few would engage while others hang back.
  • The gorilla would use its speed and strength to create chaos, possibly even breaking free of the mob.

3. If they’re trained (e.g., 100 MMA fighters)?


  • With coordinated strategy, the odds shift, especially if they can flank, grapple, and avoid the initial rampage.
  • Still, multiple injuries and deaths likely. It would take dozens to restrain and exhaust the gorilla.

4. If the men were armed (makeshift weapons, batons)?


  • Then yes, 100 could almost certainly subdue or kill the gorilla, though not without serious injury or death toll.

🦍 Super-Large Male Gorilla (500–700 lbs)​

📏 Size & Weight

  • Normal adult silverback: 350–450 lbs
  • Exceptionally large silverback: 500–600 lbs
  • Hypothetical max: 700 lbs — think ultra-alpha, like the gorilla version of Shaquille O’Neal with Barry Bonds’ muscles.

💪 Strength & Capability​

TraitNormal Silverback700 lb Gorilla
Arm Strength1,800–2,700 lbs (est.)Likely 3,000–4,000+ lbs
Bite Force~1,300 PSIStill ~1,300 PSI, but larger jaws mean more damage
Speed20–25 mph (burst)Slightly slower but more forceful
Reach/Strike ImpactDevastatingPotentially fatal in one hit

  • Lifting Power: Some studies estimate a silverback can lift over 10x its own body weight in force-based action (like flipping logs or tearing branches).
  • Weaponized Mass: At 700 lbs, this gorilla could crush, slam, or throw full-grown humans with ease. Think of a bison with combat IQ.

⚔️ In a Confrontation:​

Even trained or armed opponents would have an even harder time against a 700 lb gorilla than a typical 400 lb one:

  • Higher resilience to pain and fatigue
  • More mass = harder to restrain
  • Could kill or maim multiple humans before being overwhelmed
  • Almost impossible to tackle or grapple unless heavily sedated or restrained

🧠 Mentally:​

  • Gorillas are highly intelligent and emotionally driven.
  • A massive silverback defending territory or sensing a threat could enter an adrenaline-fueled frenzy, increasing his strength even more temporarily.

🔥 Verdict:​

:mjlol:Bruh every gorilla expert has said that the gorilla loses. Go somewhere else with this bs homie.
 

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Nothing you posted here is correct. number two is not anecdotal. Do you know what that word means?
It literal proof of point 1 in actual action.

Number 3 is not true. In most animals in nature avoid large populations of humans for this specific reason.
Number 1 isn't even entirely true either. Gorilla are most passive creatures
are you using AI to make your arguments? AI can be wrong which it is here from points 1-3. Didn't even bother going through because fundamentally ruin your argument.
Anecdotal - not necessarily true base on personal accounts rather than facts or evidence.
My video was evidence and factual event. not a personal accounting of an event. The rest of your logic fails after that.
That Gorilla did actually in real time as shown in the video get scared off by goose. There is disputed or doubting that. it is a fact.
What is anecdotal is your assumption that 100 h:mjlol:umans would be too scared to gang up on a gorilla, you have no factual basis for that assumption.

Argue with AI over scientific/biological facts brehs. :pachaha::dead:
 

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:mjlol:Bruh every gorilla expert has said that the gorilla loses. Go somewhere else with this bs homie.

:usure: :pachaha:

Cat Hobaiter, a field primatologist, has stated that 100 men would likely not stand a chance against a single gorilla, emphasizing the gorilla's physical strength and power. She acknowledges that if the humans were able to coordinate their attacks, their chances might improve. Hobaiter, who has spent years studying wild apes, also notes that gorillas are generally peaceful and relaxed, suggesting that they might not be inclined to fight.

Elaboration:
  • Hobaiter's Perspective:
    Hobaiter, a renowned primatologist, has repeatedly emphasized the significant physical advantage that gorillas possess over humans. She highlights the gorilla's considerable strength and the fact that a single punch could be devastating to a human.
  • The "100 vs 1" Scenario:
    When considering a scenario where 100 humans are confronted with a single gorilla, Hobaiter notes that the gorillas would likely win due to their physical superiority. She suggests that the humans' efforts to attack would be like children "swatting at him".
  • Gorilla's Temperament:
    Hobaiter also highlights that gorillas are generally peaceful and not inclined to initiate conflict. This suggests that the gorillas might not be as eager to engage in a fight as humans might be.
  • A More Balanced Encounter:
    If humans were to coordinate their attacks, their chances might improve. However, even with coordination, the gorillas' strength would still be a significant advantage.
 

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:usure: :pachaha:

Cat Hobaiter, a field primatologist, has stated that 100 men would likely not stand a chance against a single gorilla, emphasizing the gorilla's physical strength and power. She acknowledges that if the humans were able to coordinate their attacks, their chances might improve. Hobaiter, who has spent years studying wild apes, also notes that gorillas are generally peaceful and relaxed, suggesting that they might not be inclined to fight.
:russ:Post the whole quote homie
A primatologist who studies apes for a living, Cat Hobaiter, is even less optimistic. If this brawl takes place in high-altitude gorilla turf? The bros are going to get wrecked so hard that the grim and gruesome brutality will almost be funny. “They wouldn’t stand a chance,” she says.
 

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:russ:Post the whole quote homie
A primatologist who studies apes for a living, Cat Hobaiter, is even less optimistic. If this brawl takes place in high-altitude gorilla turf? The bros are going to get wrecked so hard that the grim and gruesome brutality will almost be funny. “They wouldn’t stand a chance,” she says.
that gorillas are generally peaceful and relaxed, suggesting that they might not be inclined to fight.


Even she admitted basically that the gorilla would run away :mjlol:

we giving all these handicaps to humans, If we are scared and unorganized. if most of us are out out shape,

and apparently the lone gorilla is the biggest silverback of all time, the bravest one most willing to crash out.
:dead:
 

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:russ:Post the whole quote homie
A primatologist who studies apes for a living, Cat Hobaiter, is even less optimistic. If this brawl takes place in high-altitude gorilla turf? The bros are going to get wrecked so hard that the grim and gruesome brutality will almost be funny. “They wouldn’t stand a chance,” she says.

Maybe you need to re-read it again & brush up on your comprehension while you're at it. :lolbron:

A primatologist who studies apes for a living, Cat Hobaiter, is even less optimistic. If this brawl takes place in high-altitude gorilla turf? The bros are going to get wrecked so hard that the grim and gruesome brutality will almost be funny. “They wouldn’t stand a chance,” she says.
 

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Maybe you need to re-read it again & brush up on your comprehension while you're at it. :lolbron:

A primatologist who studies apes for a living, Cat Hobaiter, is even less optimistic. If this brawl takes place in high-altitude gorilla turf? The bros are going to get wrecked so hard that the grim and gruesome brutality will almost be funny. “They wouldn’t stand a chance,” she says.
:russ:IF this brawl takes place in high altitude gorilla turf. Read homie
 

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:russ:IF this brawl takes place in high altitude gorilla turf. Read homie

You're reaching for straws & yet you still managed to grab the shortest one.

Moreover, none of what you wrote has anything to do with your flawed, inaccurate statement, which you're trying to gloss over now.


:mjlol:Bruh every gorilla expert has said that the gorilla loses. Go somewhere else with this bs homie.
 

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You're reaching for straws & yet you still managed to grab the shortest one.

Moreover, none of what you wrote has anything to do with your flawed, inaccurate statement, which you're trying to gloss over now.
:russ:So how many gorilla experts said that the gorilla wins?
In the hypothetical scenario of 100 men against one gorilla, experts generally agree that the humans would likely win, but with a significant number of casualties. While gorillas are exceptionally strong, with some individuals potentially weighing 600 pounds, the sheer numbers and human capacity for strategy and teamwork would likely give them the advantage.





 
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:russ:So how many gorilla experts said that the gorilla wins?
In the hypothetical scenario of 100 men against one gorilla, experts generally agree that the humans would likely win, but with a significant number of casualties. While gorillas are exceptionally strong, with some individuals potentially weighing 600 pounds, the sheer numbers and human capacity for strategy and teamwork would likely give them the advantage.




Theory among primate/animal experts is one thing, actual scientific facts are another.

🦍 Gorilla Physiology vs Human Strength


  • Muscle density: A silverback gorilla is estimated to be 4 to 9 times stronger than the average human.
  • Bone structure: Their bones are thicker and denser, evolved to withstand massive force—think wrestling other gorillas or surviving falls in rugged terrain.
  • Pain tolerance: Animals like gorillas often have a higher threshold for pain than humans, especially under stress or in a fight-or-flight scenario.

👊 A Man’s Punch in Comparison


  • A trained boxer might hit with around 1,200–1,800 psi (pounds per square inch) of force. But even that kind of power is unlikely to cause real damage to a creature that can deadlift over 1,800 lbs and endure hits from its own kind.
  • Punching a silverback would likely do more damage to the man’s hand than to the gorilla’s face or body.

🤔 Bottom Line:​


If you're unarmed and thinking about hurting a silverback gorilla with a punch… you’d honestly be better off punching a brick wall. At least the wall doesn’t punch back—and silverbacks do. Hard.

💥 100 Unarmed Men vs 1 Silverback Gorilla: Is There a Damage Threshold?


Even with 100 men, it’s not as simple as a numbers game. Here’s why:




🦍 The Gorilla’s Raw Advantages


  • Size & strength: 400–500 lbs of muscle, with strength several times that of a human.
  • Speed & agility: Can sprint up to 25 mph and leap over 10 feet.
  • Bone density & pain tolerance: Gorillas are built to survive combat with other gorillas—they can take (and deliver) brutal punishment.
  • Fighting instinct: A silverback won't hesitate—it’s trained by nature to disable threats quickly.



👊 The 100 Men Variable


Let’s assume these are average, untrained men:


  • Coordination issues: 100 people in a fight sounds good on paper, but realistically only 5–10 could engage at a time without getting in each other’s way.
  • Fear factor: Most people freeze or panic in the face of extreme danger. A gorilla charging and screaming? That’s going to break morale fast.
  • Physical limitations: Even if they surround and strike the gorilla, bare fists and feet won’t do much damage, especially initially. They risk broken hands, concussions, or worse.
  • Casualties: The first 10–15 men? Likely severely injured or killed. A gorilla can rip off limbs, crush ribs, and bite with extreme force.



📊 Could the 100 Eventually Win?


Very Slight Possibility — Maybe through sheer numbers, exhaustion, and luck. But:


  • It would take a ton of coordination, and
  • They would suffer serious casualties (we’re talking dozens down),
  • And they’d have to ignore instinctual fear and keep attacking while people are getting maimed next to them.
 
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