They say hindsight is 20/20... So looking back to 2008, do we still bail the banks out?

What should we have done?


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gho3st

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Obama had to bail em out..they're his sponsors ..we didn't want to bail em..but being the good servant to cooperate America that he is he had to, or else he would lose his job as a marionette...
i remember lookin at the TV like :ohhh: :krs: :wtf: :snoop: after seeing how both McCain and Obama blindly supported the stimulus package.
 

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I'll reserve my judgment for a few more years.

I don't trust these execs/CEO's....a few years from now we might find out most of that money somehow "disappeared", and we'll wound up right back where we were before.
 
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I say let them fail....I cant shake the feeling that they did that shyt on purpose knowing theyd get the bailout. It's like playing with house money, either way they win
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More money...more money towards infrastructure.

:comeon: what kind of infrastructure?

I voted for bail them out, but be much stricter on the conditions. And I do mean *much* stricter. I'm talking ceilings on wages and everything. Guarantees of how taxes would be payed (So, even if Obama couldn't have closed loopholes, they would not have been used anyways). Massive government regulation of the industry.

And if they had not agreed, than fukk it, let em fail. This is a falling empire anyways.

i agree.

although the issue is those in charge of monitoring and regulating the market didn't do their jobs, which is how we got into the situation in the first place. until the regulators get out from under the lobbyists and grow some balls it's useless to try and have them regulate the same people who are paying them off. they know which side their bread is buttered on.

@LeyeT I guess you have a point there..but loans are loans. People get into them knowing they have to pay them back. They should be more careful reading fine print and have good vision of the future to tell how well they will be able to pay it back. Should me and my family get money back because we didn't take a loan?

i agree with that too.

but i put less blame on the consumer because when it comes to a sting who is more responsible? the one getting hustled, or the one doing the hustling? one knows better, the other does not.

but to your point, buyers should have definitely been more diligent in reading their contracts. although i can see how it would be easy to take advantage of people who are new to the whole loan/home buying process.

should have let it crumble, if it was worth coming back it would have.

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i wonder why you don't see this in the news


JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon gets 74% payrise; to $20 million

Despite the fact that JPMorgan was hit with $20 billion worth of fines during 2013, Dimon will receive $1.5 million for the year. That base salary is virtually unchanged from the year before, but the company will also pay him an additional $18.5 million in restricted stock, according to a public filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

JPMorgan also settled cases involving its role in selling bad loans that precipitated the 2008 financial crisis, including a $13 billion agreement with the Department of Justice announced in November.

In spite of all these penalties – the company was also included in the group of banks fined 1.7 billion euros for manipulating lending rates – JPMorgan’s stock price has risen about 22 percent over the last year. Following a quarterly loss for the first time in 10 years during the third quarter of 2013, the company recently reported a profit of $5.28 billion in the fourth quarter.



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average folks out here going bankrupt, losing their life savings, working check to check just to make ends meet and STILL struggling... while wall street posts record profits on the back of our tax dollars :snoop:

the transfer of wealth my friends.

fukking disgusting.

A better society would tar and feather these people.....we are just letting them abuse us.

i think 50 lashes in the public square would be more effective :shaq:

I say let them fail....I cant help but shake the feeling that they did that shyt on purpose knowing theyd get the bailout. It's like playing with house money, either way they win

i am also of the opinion these financial "schemes" are planned far in advance.

i remember lookin at the TV like :ohhh: :krs: :wtf: :snoop: after seeing how both McCain and Obama blindly supported the stimulus package.

that's the part i was actually NOT surprised by. there's only one party-the CORPORATE party.

I applied for a bailout of my traphouse around that time they never even responded to my letter:beli:

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People have no IDEA how bad it would have been

so at this point we have avoided the catastrophe in your opinion?

I'll reserve my judgment for a few more years.

I don't trust these execs/CEO's....a few years from now we might find out most of that money somehow "disappeared", and we'll wound up right back where we were before.

breh that already came out. they originally asked the public and congress for 700 billion, but when the receipts came out the total was well into the trillions.

not only that, but the money managers in the government and the fed even refused to tell CONGRESS who they gave some of the money to. i remember congress going through the bailout balance sheet with bernake on capital hill and asking who these people/organizations were who received the bailout money... bernake gave them the greenspan-fed-talk strategy which basically amounts to :beli: :smugbiden:

imagine YOUR accountant not telling YOU how he spent YOUR money :snoop:
 

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Highways, power grid, sewer system, bridges, dams...

Doesn't take much to see it's falling apart.

The jobs that it would have created would be jobs that had have liveable wages without the need to artificially inflate other low skill, low wage jobs and it would have pumped monwey back into the economy, and tax dollars back to the government.

Not a perfect solution, but better than what we have now.
 

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old ass thread.. but anyway

All that was done.. was the can got kicked. And when this shyt finally goes... it will be far worse than it would have been in 08.

a WPA pt2 woulda been great... but too late for that now :manny:
 
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