They'll never be another R&B song like this again

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r.kelly is the biggest pioneer of the over-the-top rap singers. the R album, TP2.com & chocolate factory birthed 90% of the singers and "singers" on mainstream urban radio in the 21st century.

theres more bobby brown influence in usher's music, moreso than MJ.
and I don't know if chris brown was a fan of bobby, but hes of that mold too.

outside of select tracks, the Michael Jackson influence is really moreso in their stage shows.
I don't get BB in Usher nor CB.
I didn't get much R Kelly influence outside of subject matter really, and just being lyrically explicit more than his vocalizations or singing style. The closet I can think to being a real R. Kelly clone was Avant.

That said we'll just have to agree to disagree on that, but I definity agree with your contention about the low point of R &B with modern performers
 

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black men united gets its props but the soundtrack it was on is mad underrated in hip-hop circles.

jason's lyric is a top 10 soundtrack and has plenty of great rap cuts.

these rap forums never mention it.



this was right on time. perfect execution.

coincidentally, since the OP song is from jason's lyric, how about the songs from this soundtrack that got sharked.

ginuwine & timbaland ran with these joints a few years later. i made a thread about the jamecia jawn and alot of people got butt-hurt.




Both those songs instantly took me back to my childhood and yeah, I've said it for a decade, as much as people complain about how much hip hop has fallen off, R&B is even worse.
 

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I don't get BB in Usher nor CB.
I didn't get much R Kelly influence outside of subject matter really, and just being lyrically explicit more than his vocalizations or singing style. The closet I can think to being a real R. Kelly clone was Avant.

That said we'll just have to agree to disagree on that, but I definity agree with your contention about the low point of R &B with modern performers


usher was a well-documented bobby brown stan breh. not to mention, he uses some of the same producers. and he followed bobby's blueprint, except hes a softer, PG friendly version.
and when chris brown hit the scene, he was a better version of usher.
theyre under the same prototype that bobby established, whether directly or indirectly.

lol. I initially mentioned avant, but deleted his name out. he sounds like r.kelly vocally, but he doesn't make that type of music, aside from a few joints. but yea, good ears breh.

dog, those r.kelly albums I mentioned, birthed the majority of the mainstream r&b singers of today. if you cant see that, then I don't know what else to tell you homie.kelz is easily the most influential r&b artist of this century.
 

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the second video is just way too much Black excellence, I always watch everything twice, once for entertainment, and the second time for analysis. Pay attention to the audience and put yourself into their shoes witnessing the excellence of 40 extremely talented Black artists basically showing off just how good they are.

:banderas:
And I also liked the fact that Salt n Pepa were the only ones to stand up in the audience.
 

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Who would you say is a r kelly knockoff?
I'm looking at Chris Brown - MJ Knockoff
Usher - mj knockoff

only r.kelly knockoff I could think of is that garbage ass trey songz but his career is over

R.Kelly was a Aaron Hall knock-off but eventually found his own style and became the goat or one of the goats.

I agree with Trey but also Avant was definitely an R.Kelly knock off.

Chris Brown is an Usher/MJ knockoff
 

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yall give Michael Jackson too much credit on here.
 
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