Thinking Basketball: When the solution doesn’t address the problem (the Load Management debate)

[UnQuantized]

The combination of spacing and constant switching mean players are constantly moving, decelerating and accelerating at different angles. I agree that load mangement is not the solution, maybe playing different sports when you are younger so you build up the coordination to deal with the level of movement necessary today.

Breh's will laugh but I think ballet workout would be great for NBA players. Ballet dancers need exceptional coordination and core strenth to leap, twist and turn over a hard surface not too different from a basketball court.

 

[KFBF]

I know we want to see the star shine but ultimately we want our team to win.

I think it's a lot closer to 50/50 of people wanting there guy to win more than their team than it should be.

 

[EarlyEarly]

Breh's will laugh but I think ballet workout would be great for NBA players. Ballet dancers need exceptional coordination and core strenth to leap, twist and turn over a hard surface not too different from a basketball court.

Not for nothing, cross training is a real thing and just straight up playing different sports helps with other muscles and disciplines that can help carry over which I feel basketball players these days have gotten away from.

 

[Don Homer]

People who argue that the 65 game rule is good are ignoring a lot of facts and science that states otherwise

This tracks, bc those people are dumb ass nikkas, so ofc they'd ignore facts/figures and science

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You can analyze all you want. What you can't do is discredit the experience of people who have actually done what you are trying to analyze. If you never dunked a basketball, you cannot tell me what its like or how difficult it is to dunk a basketball. You can describe it. you can analyze it. But you cant tell me what dunk is harder to do cause I'm the one doing the dunking. As someone who has played ball at a high level, I'm telling you driving to the lane was always more dangerous and risky for injury over shooting a 3 pointer and playing the perimeter.

And until you have stepped on a court with D1 talent or NBA talent nothing can prepare you for the speed and pace of the game. It looks slow on tv and from the sidelines. There is no amount of data that does it justice for when you are on the court. Trainers and coaches can speak as trainers and coaches.. They cannot speak FOR players or as players.

One good thing about this board dying is, smart dumb nxggas like you and your stupid ass opinions will die with it too.

 

[Dem313wayz]

The combination of spacing and constant switching mean players are constantly moving, decelerating and accelerating at different angles. I agree that load mangement is not the solution, maybe playing different sports when you are younger so you build up the coordination to deal with the level of movement necessary today.

Breh's will laugh but I think ballet workout would be great for NBA players. Ballet dancers need exceptional coordination and core strenth to leap, twist and turn over a hard surface not too different from a basketball court.

People laughed but I remember Marbury did ballet.

Kareem was one of the first to incorporate yoga

 

[MicIsGod]

A clear fix is eliminating the gather step traveling and calling offensive fouls on those forearms bumps going to the rim. That was a great point he made there. Adam silver is the worst commissioner you can have. If it doesn’t effect gambling ain’t shyt happening.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

The combination of spacing and constant switching mean players are constantly moving, decelerating and accelerating at different angles. I agree that load mangement is not the solution, maybe playing different sports when you are younger so you build up the coordination to deal with the level of movement necessary today.

Breh's will laugh but I think ballet workout would be great for NBA players. Ballet dancers need exceptional coordination and core strenth to leap, twist and turn over a hard surface not too different from a basketball court.

I don't disagree with what you're saying, in theory, but playing different sports when you're younger is really only going to be beneficial for gross/fine motor skills, and not necessarily beneficial in the long run to prepare you for moving on as basketball court.

In fact, it can have the adverse effect where playing more sports along with the mileage that a kid runs up playing hoops could put more wear and tear on their bodies. And that's wherein lies the issue - kids are starting out competitively younger and younger, starting out rigorous training younger and younger, being forced to play through injuries younger and younger, all because the talent pool has grown exponentially over the years and they can't afford to fall behind because of it.

It's less a coordination issue and more a 'human body can only withstand so much' issue.

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

There is no sport where one individual player has that much say over the outcome of a game

None

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

This idiot @Gil Scott-Heroin now thinks he can debunk sports diversification A proven scientific fact in decreasing injuries

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

People who argue that the 65 game rule is good are ignoring a lot of facts and science that states otherwise

This tracks, bc those people are dumb ass nikkas, so ofc they'd ignore facts/figures and science

65 game rule.

Get out there and do your job

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

This idiot @Gil Scott-Heroin now thinks he can debunk sports diversification A proven scientific fact in decreasing injuries

Big Screech aka The Nerd Wears Prada

 

[Trojan 24]

Bring back hand checking, call travels and eliminate freedom of movement. I'm trying to see them 90/80 scores, big boy basketball

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

This idiot @Gil Scott-Heroin now thinks he can debunk sports diversification A proven scientific fact in decreasing injuries

Sports diversification can have benefits, but that's only if the body is able to handle it.

But playing more sports isn't going to decrease the injuries of a kid who already has a personal trainer, working out 3-4 times a week, having tourneys every other weekend, mid-week games etc. That's only going to put more strain on their bodies.

Save your weak ass dap fishing and stop hiding from all those threads you're tagged in like the Tatum one, which funnily enough fits in theme with this thread -

Tatum's a dumb ass. Coming back with a short window of live basketball right before playoffs (when intensity is tenfold) is just not intelligent. His body nor his mind will be ready to compete at that level.

Meanwhile, Tatum looks as good as he ever has, both mentally and physically, so really, what the fukk would you know about injuries? Is it the same kind of "proven scientific fact" that led you to foolishly believe his body and mind wouldn't be ready to compete?

 

[Nigerianwonder]

We can absolutely discredit the experience of some players because doing something doesn’t always mean you understand it on a deeper level.

A basketball player might know how to shoot a basketball. It doesn’t mean he knows how to construct a roster. Or coach others. Or heal players. Or train players. Or weigh the risk vs reward of certain strategies or actions.

If you played basketball in 1995 when it was a largely stationary game, you might not be qualified to talk about the physical demands of chasing Steph Curry around the basket for 36 minutes a night.

You are proving my point. Only someone who never played ball on a high level would think the game was "stationary" even back in the 90s. It never was. It looks that way for a casual person on the sidelines and on tv. Sub into the game and you will be tired and exhausted after 1 minute. Think you are keeping up and guarding Jordan in the 90s? You stopping gary payton off the dribble? Think it was easy getting keeping up with reggie miller and stopping his shot? The game was way more physical in the past. Try running into a screen set by Karl Malone or charles barkley. Try driving to the lane on mutombo or charles oakley. Yall wouldnt last a minute on the court in the 90s.

Talking about contructing rosters, analytics and theory is one thing. Talking about the phyiscal demands the game has on your body is another. Only a player can talk about that. You play through a lot of minor injuries and things that never get recorded especially back in the day cause the culture was to play through it or you would be considered soft. Guys were not sitting out games for any and everything like they do now. No analyitcs will tell you that though cause there is no data when its not reported.