This Bernie vs. Clinton thing is tired. Can't we all just agree to vote against the GOP in November?

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From what I’ve seen it’s mostly just Hilary stans that just like her want to blame everyone else but her for the loss. :hubie:

The Democratic Party needs to go further left and stop being such a centrist corporate party.
There's nothing wrong with Democrats being centrist... They are trying to reach the Independents and undecideds by doing so. The problem is that they are alienating the base by reaching for those crowds. They gotta strike a balance.
 

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There's nothing wrong with Democrats being centrist... They are trying to reach the Independents and undecideds by doing so. The problem is that they are alienating the base by reaching for those crowds. They gotta strike a balance.
Independents and undecideds aka nonvoters don't want that though lol. There's no evidence to suggest they want so called centrists. Democratic strategists think the Republicans that are their colleagues and family members in their little DC bubble are an actual constituency, when they're not.
 

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There's nothing wrong with Democrats being centrist... They are trying to reach the Independents and undecideds by doing so. The problem is that they are alienating the base by reaching for those crowds. They gotta strike a balance.
Yeah being centrists is really working. They keep losing because . . . oh wait.
 

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Or white people generally speaking. Or are you saying women especially since they voted against their own interests?
I feel like the bolded is a huge factor that no one really wants to address. The numbers are there staring people in the face but it has been swept under rug.

A man who bragged about grabbing women by the p*ssy, who insulted every woman who criticized him, who insulted every demographic except White Christian Males, got 53% of the White female vote.

53%...more than half

And he's about to appoint another 2-3 SCOTUS judges who are conservative in their thinking. Black people overwhelmingly voted for Hillary Clinton, not because they were ok with the negative aspects of the Clinton Presidency and Hillary's political career since then, but because they realized what was at stake.

And White women literally voted for a man who will be the reason behind them potentially losing a number of rights that were previously guaranteed by the law.

The shyt is still mind boggling to me
 
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I feel like the bolded is a huge factor that no one really wants to address. The numbers are there staring people in the face but it has been swept under rug.

A man who bragged about grabbing women by the p*ssy, who insulted every woman who criticized him, who insulted every demographic except White Christian Males, got 53% of the White female vote.

53%...more than half

And he's about to appoint another 2-3 SCOTUS judges who are conservative in their thinking. Black people overwhelmingly voted for Hillary Clinton, not because they were ok with the negative aspects of the Clinton Presidency and Hillary's political career since then, but because they realized what was at stake.

And White women literally voted for a man who will be the reason behind them potentially losing a number of rights that were previously guaranteed by the law.

The shyt is still mind boggling to me
A lot of women still connect their best interests to their SOs. So if they think Trump is best for their white boyfriend/husband it is also best for them.
 

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A lot of women still connect their best interests to their SOs. So if they think Trump is best for their white boyfriend/husband it is also best for them.
Which is also mind boggling because Trump knows about as much about economics as I know about Open Heart Surgery

Note: I know nothing about Open Heart Surgery except for the fact that it involves hearts, and is a kind of surgery performed by doctors.

His economic policy as well as his domestic policy is literally harming them for decades to come...and they still want more :mjlol:
 

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fukk these purity bernie bros like that radical leftist Barack Obama who blamed Hillary and not Jill Stein or Bernie Sanders. I mean seriously that guy has no political instincts and hasn't accomplished anything in the political sphere what makes him think he can judge Hillary's idiotic and incompetent campaign strategy and say it's the reason she lost.:troll:

I won Iowa not because the demographics dictated that I would win Iowa. It was because I spent 87 days going to every small town and fair and fish fry and VFW Hall, and there were some counties where I might have lost, but maybe I lost by 20 points instead of 50 points. There's some counties maybe I won, that people didn't expect, because people had a chance to see you and listen to you and get a sense of who you stood for and who you were fighting for.

Did President Obama just dis Hillary Clinton’s campaign?
 

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fukk these purity bernie bros like that radical leftist Barack Obama who blamed Hillary and not Jill Stein or Bernie Sanders. I mean seriously that guy has no political instincts and hasn't accomplished anything in the political sphere what makes him think he can judge Hillary's idiotic and incompetent campaign strategy and say it's the reason she lost.:troll:



Did President Obama just dis Hillary Clinton’s campaign?
Maybe Hillary just knew the more people she met personally the worse off her chances were. :mjlol:
 

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So we're just going to again ignore the fact the Democratic Party rolled out 5 candidates: 2 were former Republicans (Webb and Chafee), 1 legitimate Democrat (O'Malley), 1 Independent/Socialist (Bernie) and 1 person who was a Republican in the 60's and was loathed by many? People can revisit Bernie vs Hillary all they want but it doesn't change the fact the DNC couldn't get better candidates to run. AS a registered Dem, the selection we had to choose from was utterly embarrassing.
 

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I feel like the bolded is a huge factor that no one really wants to address. The numbers are there staring people in the face but it has been swept under rug.

A man who bragged about grabbing women by the p*ssy, who insulted every woman who criticized him, who insulted every demographic except White Christian Males, got 53% of the White female vote.

53%...more than half

And he's about to appoint another 2-3 SCOTUS judges who are conservative in their thinking. Black people overwhelmingly voted for Hillary Clinton, not because they were ok with the negative aspects of the Clinton Presidency and Hillary's political career since then, but because they realized what was at stake.


And White women literally voted for a man who will be the reason behind them potentially losing a number of rights that were previously guaranteed by the law.

The shyt is still mind boggling to me

NOBODY wants to discuss this though.

Instead of blaming Bernie supporters (most of whom ended up voting for Hillary in the general election anyways), Hillary/DNC shills need to direct their anger at WHITE WOMEN.

Good luck with that, though.
 
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