
were any of those winning seasons tho
03- before Lebron - 17 wins
04- with Lebron - 35 wins
05- with Lebron - 42 wins (first winning season)
06 - with Lebron - 50 wins
07 - with Lebron - 50 wins
08 - with Lebron -45 wins
09 - with Lebron - 66 wins
10 - with Lebron - 61 wins
11 - Lebron leaves....19 wins. (when Mike retired, Bulls only lost 2 more games than when he was there)
that first run with Cleveland, there was never a Pippen type player (MVP candidate), there was never even a Horace Grant type player. Only damaged goods in Ilgauskas, past prime Jamison, and pre-retirement Shaq.
furthermore the Cavs never won more than 57 games in their entire history except the years LBJ was there.
if you say MJ is better I wont argue with you....but he has NEVER meant more to the win/loss column by himself than Lebron, Magic, Russell, Wilt, Oscar, Bird, or Shaq.