Dude consistently defies basketball logic. I seriously believe that an opponents only hope is for him to have an off night.
This dude is really unguardable.
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Dude consistently defies basketball logic. I seriously believe that an opponents only hope is for him to have an off night.
Ronnie Lott
#49erGang
Yeah man... D was average.
Steph hypnotized him with a few lil light crosses and a relaxed posture (very smart and cerebral way to create space), then the defender nudged him back further which gave him more space...when you know his range is anything past half court (lol) with space
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...if you're gonna commit that closely man-to-man that far outon someone like Steph, then you gotta go all the way in, and realize you have help behind you and just live with the dribble drive and kick to someone with a lower efficiency rate.
let's review some fundamental concerns ...
the defender was looking at the ball damn near the entire time when you're taught as a kid in organized ball to watch primarily the midsection, glancing up when face guarding
defender had his hands down damn near the entire time when you're taught as a kid in organized ball to have you arms outstretched as an on ball defender (or offball in the zone), especially if you have length, to help confine the offensive player to a defined area
defender had his eyes down after nudging steph into his slight stepback motion, and got his hands up late
... also some of greatest blockers used their left hand to try to block and their right to try to shield the defenders eyes
Playing Steph man to man beyond the arc requires precision and a willingness to look foolish and huge amount of energy exertion. And defenders aren't playing like that anymore. too cool for that shyt. It requires that 45 year old man, grizzled vet, Rec Center, YMCA defense where that defender was all in your shyt the entire time, committing to the constant amount of moment to moment discipline it takes to not give you space within a defined area. As you said, those defenders made you conform to them.
I still haven't seen that on Steph. Maybe in the playoffs. But you don't have many guard defensive specialists anymore
Can't wait til the 'offs to see if the refs will allow that kinda D on Steph, and if anyone will accept the challenge of trying that.
Why you think they called GP the Glove? He suffocated people. Looking back, his ability to do it on both ends was just incredible. Y'all sure yall are hoopers?
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I_Got_Da_Burna
Superstar
Ilyasova is hardly a center breh
You right breh the coli knowsCome on now Breh.....the collective of NBA coaches and staff haven't figured out how to consistently guard Steph yet, which is why the Coli-Couch-Coaches are working on that game plan now (still). Trust me, Steph is going to have the clamps put on him in no time....
Purplekush
Pro
Yeah man... D was average.
Steph hypnotized him with a few lil light crosses and a relaxed posture (very smart and cerebral way to create space), then the defender nudged him back further which gave him more space...
...if you're gonna commit that closely man-to-man that far out
let's review some fundamental concerns ...
the defender was looking at the ball damn near the entire time when you're taught as a kid in organized ball to watch primarily the midsection, glancing up when face guarding
defender had his hands down damn near the entire time when you're taught as a kid in organized ball to have you arms outstretched as an on ball defender (or offball in the zone), especially if you have length, to help confine the offensive player to a defined area
defender had his eyes down after nudging steph into his slight stepback motion, and got his hands up late
... also some of greatest blockers used their left hand to try to block and their right to try to shield the defenders eyes
Playing Steph man to man beyond the arc requires precision and a willingness to look foolish and huge amount of energy exertion. And defenders aren't playing like that anymore. too cool for that shyt. It requires that 45 year old man, grizzled vet, Rec Center, YMCA defense where that defender was all in your shyt the entire time, committing to the constant amount of moment to moment discipline it takes to not give you space within a defined area. As you said, those defenders made you conform to them.
I still haven't seen that on Steph. Maybe in the playoffs. But you don't have many guard defensive specialists anymore
Can't wait til the 'offs to see if the refs will allow that kinda D on Steph, and if anyone will accept the challenge of trying that.
Why you think they called GP the Glove? He suffocated people. Looking back, his ability to do it on both ends was just incredible. Y'all sure yall are hoopers?
I co sign all of this. Been sayin it for a minute. If I'm coaching I'm also cycling defenders in like it's hockey shifts. That way you can keep a fresh body on him all night. Gonna take a lot of effort but it can be done. That's the blueprint.
You named all players who are better than Curry. I don't get it...
more physical players at that...
Ronnie Lott
#49erGang
Why couldn't those players be stopped? You still haven't given me a reason?
Why can't Curry be stopped now?
There are 29 other teams with hundreds of players, many all stars, NBA champions, hundreds of coaches with decades of experience and also rings to match along with 29 other GMs.
Why can't any of the people that I listed stop
curry? But you think you have the answers
Gil Scott-Heroin
Veteran
Some of y'all muh'fukkas just need to log off. And stay logged off.
nikkas better hope his ankle starts fukking up again.
this shyt dont make no sense
HE'S unguardable by people that still dont understand what he's doing out there. STOP going for any of those moves. the guy wants to shoot a 3, step backs, etc. any move towards the basket is not fooling me, which means he could very easily just blow right by me for the tear drop. fine by me. as long as he aint getting 3 pts. thats how i would play him. and sit on that shooting arm. keep your hands half way up. so when he goes up you're already there.
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someone always can slow you down. there's always one. most star players have one or two guys that bother them a bit. or one or two teams that can bother them a bit. what Gs is doing is that their analytics and offensive players are ahead of the nba's defensive schemes. and ahead of what players have been taught about how to defend drives to the basket. with this team you need to flip what you were taught and run them off the line in hopes they will take mostly 2s and not many 3's.Why couldn't those players be stopped? You still haven't given me a reason?
Why can't Curry be stopped now?
There are 29 other teams with hundreds of players, many all stars, NBA champions, hundreds of coaches with decades of experience and also rings to match along with 29 other GMs.
Why can't any of the people that I listed stop
curry? But you think you have the answers
step back with him. you already know where's he's going. he's trying to create space. like i never understand how nick young gets his shot off so often . he has serious handles going left to right. but thats all he's doing. shaking, shaking. open Swish.it's crazy. It doesn't matter if you play him tight and try to take away the 3 ball, he'll still do a behind back stepback three and hit it in your face.
if you realize and say the hell with the guys driving ability. you will have a better chance of stopping his 3 at least.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Things sound great in theory, brehs
true. but if you've played vs these kind of ball handlers with the "i dont care" mentality when it comes to launching 3;s. you will realize they have something in common. they LOVE shooting so much, they will risk taking a horrible 3, vs just going to the rack every time. because its in their very nature to chuck the 3. the same way a guy like dwade would sometimes over force it to the rack and get that charging foul. its the same way if you sat on curries shooting hand. he would take really bad 3's anyway vs going to the rack and doing the easy thing consistently. he would revert back to doing what he loves to do best. chuck 3's. this is just human nature. we like certain things and have certain patterns. we can break the pattern for a moment but at the end of the day we will always wind up back in that original pattern.
Gil Scott-Heroin
Veteran
Fixed.
