This Election Proves That America is Less Racist Than Ever Before
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ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
And it's literally why a large portion of people in this country support him but I'm gonna let them rockBut his underlying message is racist.
It isn't at all.But his underlying message is racist.
I don't doubt that racists were a part of the Trump coalition, but they were also there for McCain and Romney and what'd that get them? Hillary lost because she couldn't carry the same white voters that Barack did twice--it's really that simple.
Trump built a coalition and that coalition definitely has some ugly parts but racism did not win him the election.
Kill Dat Noize
Banned
If Trump was nearly as racist as some would have you believe, I don't believe he would have won the election.
Unless you want to believe that half of all white americans are racist.
Unless you want to believe that half of all white americans are racist.
Why Trump Won: Working-Class Whites
Donald J. Trump won the presidency by riding an enormous wave of support among white working-class voters.
It was always a possibility, but it had always looked unlikely. Hillary Clinton led in nearly every national poll — and in other surveys in the states worth the requisite 270 electoral votes.
The traditional view of recent American elections gave even more reason to think Mrs. Clinton was safe. National exit polls suggested that President Obama won the 2012 presidential election despite faring worse among white voters than any Democrat since Walter Mondale. Those polls showed that white voters without a degree were now just one-third of the electorate. It was interpreted to mean that there was not much room for additional Democratic losses, especially once a white Democrat replaced Mr. Obama on the ballot.
The truth was that Democrats were far more dependent on white working-class voters than many believed.
In the end, the bastions of industrial-era Democratic strength among white working-class voters fell to Mr. Trump. So did many of the areas where Mr. Obama fared best in 2008 and 2012. In the end, the linchpin of Mr. Obama’s winning coalition broke hard to the Republicans.
The Wyoming River Valley of Pennsylvania — which includes Scranton and Wilkes-Barre — voted for Mr. Trump. It had voted for Mr. Obama by double digits.
Youngstown, Ohio, where Mr. Obama won by more than 20 points in 2012, was basically a draw. Mr. Trump swept the string of traditionally Democratic and old industrial towns along Lake Erie. Counties that supported Mr. Obama in 2012 voted for Mr. Trump by 20 points.
The rural countryside of the North swung overwhelmingly to Mr. Trump. Most obvious was Iowa, where Mr. Obama won easily in 2012 but where Mr. Trump prevailed easily. These gains extended east, across Wisconsin and Michigan to New England. Mr. Trump won Maine’s Second Congressional District by 12 points; Mr. Obama had won it by eight points.
These gains went far beyond what many believed was possible. But Mr. Obama was strong among white working-class Northerners, and that meant there was a lot of room for a Democrat to fall.
That fact was obscured by national exit polls that showed Mr. Obama faring worse among white voters than any Democratic nominee since 1984. But Mr. Obama fared very poorly only among white voters in the South. He ran well ahead of Mrs. Clinton just about everywhere else.
The exit polls also systematically underestimated the importance of these white working-class voters to Democrats. In general, they overestimated the number of well-educated and nonwhite voters.
Donald J. Trump won the presidency by riding an enormous wave of support among white working-class voters.
It was always a possibility, but it had always looked unlikely. Hillary Clinton led in nearly every national poll — and in other surveys in the states worth the requisite 270 electoral votes.
The traditional view of recent American elections gave even more reason to think Mrs. Clinton was safe. National exit polls suggested that President Obama won the 2012 presidential election despite faring worse among white voters than any Democrat since Walter Mondale. Those polls showed that white voters without a degree were now just one-third of the electorate. It was interpreted to mean that there was not much room for additional Democratic losses, especially once a white Democrat replaced Mr. Obama on the ballot.
The truth was that Democrats were far more dependent on white working-class voters than many believed.
In the end, the bastions of industrial-era Democratic strength among white working-class voters fell to Mr. Trump. So did many of the areas where Mr. Obama fared best in 2008 and 2012. In the end, the linchpin of Mr. Obama’s winning coalition broke hard to the Republicans.
The Wyoming River Valley of Pennsylvania — which includes Scranton and Wilkes-Barre — voted for Mr. Trump. It had voted for Mr. Obama by double digits.
Youngstown, Ohio, where Mr. Obama won by more than 20 points in 2012, was basically a draw. Mr. Trump swept the string of traditionally Democratic and old industrial towns along Lake Erie. Counties that supported Mr. Obama in 2012 voted for Mr. Trump by 20 points.
The rural countryside of the North swung overwhelmingly to Mr. Trump. Most obvious was Iowa, where Mr. Obama won easily in 2012 but where Mr. Trump prevailed easily. These gains extended east, across Wisconsin and Michigan to New England. Mr. Trump won Maine’s Second Congressional District by 12 points; Mr. Obama had won it by eight points.
These gains went far beyond what many believed was possible. But Mr. Obama was strong among white working-class Northerners, and that meant there was a lot of room for a Democrat to fall.
That fact was obscured by national exit polls that showed Mr. Obama faring worse among white voters than any Democratic nominee since 1984. But Mr. Obama fared very poorly only among white voters in the South. He ran well ahead of Mrs. Clinton just about everywhere else.
The exit polls also systematically underestimated the importance of these white working-class voters to Democrats. In general, they overestimated the number of well-educated and nonwhite voters.
ill
Superstar
But his underlying message is racist.
Kicking out illegals is not a racist message. Kicking out all Mexicans would be a racist message.
Telling black people that he will work for their gains is not a racist policy. Three strikes and calling people super predators would be a racist message.
His underlying message was taking back this country from the elite, corporations, and foreign interests. That means for ALL Americans, not just white ones. You guys just don't wanna see it because you want to push a narrative that all whites are racist and he's only out for those racists. He's not trying to take anything away from blacks or hispanics. He's trying to take things way from the elite and corporations who have sold out the middle class.
JahFocus CS
Get It How You Get It
Way more than half are racist. Probably close to 90%.
A candidate literally chose to focus on White Nationalists as the center of his base, and that proves America is less racist? 
ill
Superstar
Why stop at 90%? All white people are racist...
I would say the rust belt voters are not as racially driven as their southern counterparts, but I wouldn't discount their racism either. Obama just happened to be their best option in 08 and 2012. A Republican was not going to win in 2008 and Mitt Romney wrote an article saying "Let Detroit go Bankrupt" and was the Corporate raider at Bain.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
A candidate literally chose to focus on White Nationalists as the center of his base, and that proves America is less racist?
Yeah, trying to figure that one out too here myself.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
Yeah... well there's that.... thing...
jilla82
Veteran
how did he do that?A candidate literally chose to focus on White Nationalists as the center of his base, and that proves America is less racist?