This exchange bothered me cuz why don’t woman hold themselves accountable for being financially irresponsible?

[O.T.I.S.]

This is why most white families are wealthy. Not trying to be biased or anything but a lot of black men are too busy looking for an armpiece over a peace of mind and when women see them successful with good black women, they hate.

Not all bm are looking for arm candy, they’re looking for someone they’re physically and mentally attracted too as well as being compatible with financially and otherwise.

Mostly, a nikka will prefer peace. Arm candy looses looks overtime. Arm candy gets old if there is no peace of mind.

Social media will have y’all believing different

For example, I know a lot of attractive females. Some that wanted to get with me, some didnt, some I wouldn’t even bother smashing because of their history or attitudes. Some i would tell “lets date to get to know each other or take our time” just because I’m unsure if I can trust her enough yet to commit. A lot with children from other nikkas or will have their friends/family all in the relationship and honestly, I’m not in the mindset to do all that again. Not all bm out here looking at just looks

 

[skyrunner1]

It all comes down to the character of the parties involved. Some men will toss aside the woman who built with them (starter wife) and find someone younger to spend their money on. Some will appreciate having a woman build with them and value her presence into old age.

Some women will happily build with you from the studio apartment to the 4000sqft dream house, while others will leave for a man who already “made it”.

People act like some successful men don’t swap out wives and some money chasing women don’t exist.

Again there are laws/rules in place to protect women from this. Alimony was put in place just for this very reason and even tho in todays age where women earn their own and dont even want to contribute towards the family with those earnings as a kind of parachute they STILL get that benefit of alimony law that was put in place for house wives with no marketable skills to shelter themselves.

 

[TreySav]

Okay. A man is supposed to provide guidance wisdom and discipline.

How much of these traits can a man have if he cannot discern who to drop his seed in?? If he refuses to protect himself??

The same way a woman has choice over who she lets in her womb, a man has choice over who he's willing to mother his children.

This is some common sense shyt but brehs will argue against this just to be contrarian

 

[Jazzy B.]

Women are EMOTIONAL spenders.

A woman could have $10,000 saved and then suddenly blow it on a BBL because she feels like getting one at that precise moment because she got sad her friends ass is bigger than hers.

That's why we have to guide them.

 

[FluffyEyes]

Men are biologically inclined to drop their seed dam near anywhere, its only in recent history men knew their kids were theirs, tribes used to move much more different than how we move now. The investment men have in their kids in this day in age is incredible, esp black men! It has to be a concious choice not to. Women need to protect their womb as they are sex who has to carry a baby to term and since the head cant make it thru passage you only carry for 9 months and the baby is dependent on you for a number of years.

Knowing this women should be inclined to choose a mate of good resources or ability to provide those said resources. Why would you leave that up to chance and up to a man? You have first and final say over the whole thing. Society has rigged it to point where with marriage you can be protected from alot and receive a level of guarantee investment, Most CHOOSE to do it backwards..

I've already said myself in past threads women should protect their wombs(I even said it in this thread) so exactly what is the issue with me saying men should be discerning about their seed??? This is not tribal times, this ain't the 1940s and Pandora's box is open. Either you be smart as a man OR woman or you get got. The End.

Not gonna argue with you, you're being a textbook women and dodging accountability

No I'm arguing with logic and common sense. I'm saying the facts. 2 ppl are required to make a child and whether the decision is good or bad it reflects on the character of both the woman and man.

Ya'll argue so much about women not taking accountability but are acting in the same way you say women do. Saying men can control their seed should not be controversial.

 

[FluffyEyes]

This is some common sense shyt but brehs will argue against this just to be contrarian

It's very strange.

 

[FluffyEyes]

If she does not open her legs, there's no nut to be dropped in any old woman.

If a woman does not want to have sex, a baby can't be created, can it??

And if a man properly protects himself(whether through avoidance or at least condoms) he can ALSO avoid a baby.

Unless you're telling me that the "discipline" men "bring to the table" doesn't exist. That they cannot use their self control to denv sex when necessary.

 

[Uachet]

There are always two variables when it comes to relationships. The follies that one side commits are also committed by the other side. While I will admit that for the last 30 years the masculine side has received the bulk of the finger pointing, that is changing these days as more of the spotlight is now being placed on the negative actions of the feminine side. It is pretty much like a pendulum swing, where we have exposed the problems men create in relationships, but now it is starting to swing back towards exposing the feminine side.

Many of us are really not capable of actually looking at the entire issue with a balanced outlook. We seem to always interject our biases in our assessments, especially when it comes to the emotionally charged nature of romantic relationships.

 

[Gloxina]

None of this really changes what I said. I know what it IS, I'm saying what it SHOULD be. Any human being who purports to have concerns about their legacy should be discerning about who they allow to have power in that arena, man or woman.

Right. I guess the thing is there are plenty of dudes who will drop their “seed” and have no concern about legacy.

And this is deflection at it’s finest

Yeah SOME men might do that but there are never no real world examples of this. It’s always some celebrity or rapper shyt that is NOT real world.

Starter wife? I’ve never even heard that term used with bm.

And you are correct, there are some women willing to build in a studio apartment. But to act like men are swapping from wife to wife sounds ridiculous. Most successful bm won’t even get married again after the first one goes down the toilet… or it will take a long ass time. Thats losing wealth.

lmao I have successful relatives who are on their 2nd and 3rd wives.

When you are truly successful, YEA, you can afford to divorce and get a new wife.

Someone in my fam is paying his ex-wife alimony and still paying for for health insurance while he’s been remarried for years. AND RETIRED. Someone else who is a G-15 in the fed govt (and that’s his 2nd career) and on to his 3rd wife. Naw, it’s not EVERY man, but the shyt happens.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

And if a man properly protects himself(whether through avoidance or at least condoms) he can ALSO avoid a baby.

Unless you're telling me that the "discipline" men "bring to the table" doesn't exist. That they cannot use their self control to denv sex when necessary.

Future has 10 baby mamas, those women are not married. 2-9th baby mamas knew dude wasn't shyt but yet, we gonna sit up here and blame Future?

What about the 2nd - 10th baby mamas? They laid down with a man who makes multiple babies and don't wife them

Why does dude even have 10 baby mamas or however many? Why as a woman sleep with a man that's reckless as such?

Women are bad a picking men. Future shouldn't have that many baby mamas, but yet women sleeps with buddy.

No hate, but women are the ones who create this single mothers shyt most of the times with the dudes that they pick

 

[Bossino]

I've already said myself in past threads women should protect their wombs(I even said it in this thread) so exactly what is the issue with me saying men should be discerning about their seed??? This is not tribal times, this ain't the 1940s and Pandora's box is open. Either you be smart as a man OR woman or you get got. The End.


No I'm arguing with logic and common sense. I'm saying the facts. 2 ppl are required to make a child and whether the decision is good or bad it reflects on the character of both the woman and man.

Ya'll argue so much about women not taking accountability but are acting in the same way you say women do. Saying men can control their seed should not be controversial.

You're a woman getting into SIGN language I'm not engaging

 

[BaggerofTea]

Thats why they dont want men to have options (Date younger, date interracially, date out the country, even date interculturally) They need those men in that 35+ age range to be waiting there on sidelines while they partied, had girls trips, popped out babies many times multiple for different men, recklessly spend on clothes, brunch, bbl, deep in student/credit card debt, etc. That was the plan all along, now men have started to smarten up and really look at the crap deal they are getting and its like hold on, you cant do that!

The whole point of a man being fiscally responsible or needing a "HVM" who makes high 6 figures is so he can be a clean up man for the mess they created. There is no forward thinking other than someone else will come along and fix this. The main weapon of shaming men back into position is not working like it used to, They dont want you, they just want you waiting for first right of refusal in case they need a good backup plan.. I wish everyone the best of luck..

If you think only black women think like this.


I have news for you

 

[FluffyEyes]

Future has 10 baby mamas, those women are not married. 2-9th baby mamas knew dude wasn't shyt but yet, we gonna sit up here and blame Future?

What about the 2nd - 10th baby mamas? They laid down with a man who makes multiple babies and don't wife them

Why does dude even have 10 baby mamas or however many? Why as a woman sleep with a man that's reckless as such?

Women are bad a picking men. Future shouldn't have that many baby mamas, but yet women sleeps with buddy.

No hate, but women are the ones who create this single mothers shyt most of the times with the dudes that they pick

Future has 10, Nick has 8 so on and so forth. The women are idiots. Anyone who knowingly signs up to be part of a Baby Mama harem is mentally lost. That said, these men also seeded up some women who mostly use their bodies to sell whatever online or are former sex workers. If you or they don't think that's gonna impact those kids, idk what to tell you.

 

[skyrunner1]

If you think only black women think like this.


I have news for you

I had to re read what I wrote multiple times to see what would make you even think this. Your assumption has nothing to do what I stated but even so I deal with what I am and what happens in my house. Even with that said, NO WHERE IN MY STATEMENT DID I SAY THAT, Lol..

Goal post be movin movin movin movin..

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Future has 10, Nick has 8 so on and so forth. The women are idiots. Anyone who knowingly signs up to be part of a Baby Mama harem is mentally lost. That said, these men also seeded up some women who mostly use their bodies to sell whatever online or are former sex workers. If you or they don't think that's gonna impact those kids, idk what to tell you.

Checkmate