This Is How Much Engineers Make at Airbnb, Uber and Snapchat

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Not only that a lot of these startup jobs are extremely unstable. I read about 90 day grace period for some of them. That's 3 full months before your first paycheck. If the business goes under you don't get your paid. If your company doesn't get VC funding you don't get paid. If it's late or not as expected then that 120k becomes 60k. Places like Uber, AirBnB and Snapchat are multi-billion dollar businesses. They hire only the best of the best. Which means a degree from Stanford or Harvard or at least 5 years experience or you can forget about it. Then expect to work 80 hour weeks. Lots of gotcha's in startup software development at the higher salary range.

Now my dude worked at IBM in Austin says it was pretty chill. 6 figures and everything. He got laid off after a year though.


Yep, I think the average tenure at a tech company is 3 years. :francis:. Tech startups rise and fall all the time. As I said, you have to really love tech to thrive and can't just do it for the money.
 

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Personally, it's best to get in areas like .NET and go from there as a developer before taking your ass to the Bay Area and earning your key unless you the shyt. And everyone knows when they got skills. Real skills.
 
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Not only that a lot of these startup jobs are extremely unstable. I read about 90 day grace period for some of them. That's 3 full months before your first paycheck. If the business goes under you don't get your paid. If your company doesn't get VC funding you don't get paid. If it's late or not as expected then that 120k becomes 60k. Places like Uber, AirBnB and Snapchat are multi-billion dollar businesses. They hire only the best of the best. Which means a degree from Stanford or Harvard or at least 5 years experience or you can forget about it. Then expect to work 80 hour weeks. Lots of gotcha's in startup software development at the higher salary range.

Now my dude worked at IBM in Austin says it was pretty chill. 6 figures and everything. He got laid off after a year though.

Also some of these companies offer you nice bennies (401k match, poss pension, etc) but you need to be with the company X amount of years before you're vested or you lose everything `
I work engineering (mech eng grad) for a Fortune 500 company (top 100).....don't know much on the programing side of things on the west coast but work with people whose brothers work work at microsoft and the like.....your going to put in hours.....there is a reason these places have a nice campus, its cause your going to be there all the time..........im not trying to discourage but you're going to be living to work and that is fine cause that is what people need to do but the day to day grind is not fun or easy......there are many days I come home and my brain is mush cause of work (and im one of lucky ones since Im not able to take my work home)
 

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Yeah basically. There's a lot of competition even though there is a high demand. Sounds contradictory, but I feel like it's true.
Oh yeah, I've seen.
I'm living in a bubble because I just got a local internship and have a job at my friend's start-up when I graduate if I decide to take some time off before law school, and the only programmers I know in real life are my childhood friend who works at IBM and my "student mentor" who freelances while at Loyola for his PhD.
 

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The more you learn, the easier it becomes. I've heard the jump from Ruby into Java or vice-versa is smooth as hell.

Ruby and Java are quite different, but there are some similarities you can take away like conditionals (if else, etc), loops, etc. that will help in the transition. I would say the jump among the c-style languages is simpler... Java to C-sharp to python, etc. Going from Ruby to Java or vice versa is manageable, but it'll take some adjustments.
 

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Also some of these companies offer you nice bennies (401k match, poss pension, etc) but you need to be with the company X amount of years before you're vested or you lose everything `
I work engineering (mech eng grad) for a Fortune 500 company (top 100).....don't know much on the programing side of things on the west coast but work with people whose brothers work work at microsoft and the like.....your going to put in hours.....there is a reason these places have a nice campus, its cause your going to be there all the time..........im not trying to discourage but you're going to be living to work and that is fine cause that is what people need to do but the day to day grind is not fun or easy......there are many days I come home and my brain is mush cause of work (and im one of lucky ones since Im not able to take my work home)
They also write deadline clauses in your contract so if you don't produce X by Y amount of time your salary gets cut.

And the misleading thing is that you will hear about 23/24 year old bros who get jobs at these places like Instagram and Snapchat but in almost all cases they've been programming since they were 12-13 years old. While we were out playing football and chasing women they were inside coding and that's why they are afforded that luxury. There's a couple of real reasons why very few black people are in those silicon valley jobs.

I'm definitely not trying to come off as sour here but I think there's a huge myth going around that you can eat good from a few months of coding without serious connections or merit.

In my opinion and personal experience If you want to go that route of spending as little time as possible learning before you get the eventual strong salary position you need to either 1)shell out money to attend a good coding bootcamp($15k+) 2) contribute in a bunch of open source projects on github 3) create multiple quality projects/businesses by yourself.

In any case 99% of the time this is going to take you over a year of dedicated effort.
 

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Oh yeah, I've seen.
I'm living in a bubble because I just got a local internship and have a job at my friend's start-up when I graduate if I decide to take some time off before law school, and the only programmers I know in real life are my childhood friend who works at IBM and my "student mentor" who freelances while at Loyola for his PhD.
My dude worked at IBM too. From what I understand it's probably one of the more relaxed companies in the software industry.
 

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My dude worked at IBM too. From what I understand it's probably one of the more relaxed companies in the software industry.
NYC?
And yeah, that's what he was saying.
If someone had told me you don't have to be w super genius to get into development when I was younger, that's probably where I'd be.
All I did was binge watch hacker movies and teach myself how to type fast. Had all the time in the world during the summers too.
 

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NYC?
And yeah, that's what he was saying.
If someone had told me you don't have to be w super genius to get into development when I was younger, that's probably where I'd be.
All I did was binge watch hacker movies and teach myself how to type fast. Had all the time in the world during the summers too.
Nah, Austin:jawalrus:

He got let go after a year though. He seemed pissed about it. That was the last time I talked to him
 

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My dude worked at IBM too. From what I understand it's probably one of the more relaxed companies in the software industry.

IBM is one of the largest companies on earth. There is no "Company Culture" per say because IBM is literally hundreds of companies that have been bought out so it really depends on the area in IBM you work.
 

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Programming will always be in demand, but Programming jobs can easily be outsourced. The people who create the logic and functional designs will always be the ones eating.

Why you think America is pushing this Code crap to everyone. So they can pay Americans chump change and look good on paper because they "brought jobs back to America".

If you want to be a developer go for it, but anyone doing something just cause they hear it pays will be taken out the paint rather easy

Yep, they want that everybody needs to be a coder nonsense so they can bring those massive salaries down. If you are going to be your run of the mill coder, you're going to have problems. down the line when the market starts getting flooded with programmers. On the other hand, if you are highly skilled, you can pretty much create your own opportunities. For those who want to jump into this, make sure this is really what you want to do. If you're not willing to spend hours after work exploring programming concepts, this might not be the field for you.

One of the things I'm trying to do with this programming knowledge is to engage in entrepreneurial pursuits. Knowing how companies operate, I already know they are working to minimize compensation over the long-run.
 

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nikkas be claiming they eating good til these threads pop up
Then they ready to switch careers

Back to reality by tomorrow..

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Let's stop some of the foolishness.

Yes people live in the bay, SF even making 60-70k and do fine. i don't know where someone got $5-7k for s one bedroom :dahell:

These startup and tech jobs aren't all fun and games, yes there is a laidback atmosphere but some dude was posting shyt like people are putting in 40 and chilling...no, most coders are putting in way more hours which is the reason these tech companies have so many perks.

I'm not privy to all facets of dev and the whole cert gang, but y'all who don't have 4 year degrees and/or think you'll do a bootcamp with some AA degree and think you'll get a job at the types of companies listed in OP are WAY off base. Now how that translates elsewhere or into other roles outside SV, I can't speak on...but getting on at Google Twitter Facebook or the sexiest startups/unicorns...you need the name brand college killer skills and ability to sell yourself on "fit".
 
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